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Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« on: June 09, 2009, 02:56:50 PM »
I took some time reviewing the Cairo speech made by Sultan Hussein Osama of the UEA (United Emirates of America). The full text of his speech and my commentary are following beneath.
 

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    I am honored to be in the timeless city of Cairo, and to be hosted by two remarkable institutions. For over a thousand years, Al-Azhar has stood as a beacon of Islamic learning, and for over a century, Cairo University has been a source of Egypt's advancement. Together, you represent the harmony between tradition and progress. I am grateful for your hospitality, and the hospitality of the people of Egypt. I am also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American people, and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country: assalaamu alaykum.


Cairo is an Arab settlement set up by the Muslim Arab invaders who dispossessed Egypt's Coptic population in the 7th century. Al-Azhar university continues to this day to issue fatwas such as:

"Muslim brothers, God has inflicted the Muslim nation with a people whom God has become angry at [Koran 1:7] and whom he cursed [Koran 5:78] so he made monkeys and pigs [Koran 5:60] out of them. They killed prophets and
   messengers [Koran 2:61/3:112] and sowed corruption on Earth. [Koran 5:33/5:64] They are the most evil on Earth. [Koran 5:62 /63]"


The hospitality of Egypt amounts to persecuting and exploiting African refugees from Sudan, and handing them over back to the Sudanese Arab, Muslim, racist, regime where they face death.

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    We meet at a time of tension between the United States and Muslims around the world - tension rooted in historical forces that go beyond any current policy debate. The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of co-existence and cooperation, but also conflict and religious wars. More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations. Moreover, the sweeping change brought by modernity and globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions of Islam.

    Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent minority of Muslims. The attacks of September 11th, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights. This has bred more fear and mistrust.

Here Obama completely adopts the Islamic narrative. Muslims are the biggest oppressors and colonialists in history. When Muslim invade  north Africa, forcibly converted and Arabized the population (the lucky ones who escapes slaughter), and turn it into a Muslim Arab realm, that's not colonialism. Only when a European nation reclaim the realm back to western hands it is considered colonialism. When Muslims allow non-Muslim to leave in their countries as degraded second class residents, it is considered 'co-existence and cooperation' by Obama. The 9-11 Terrorist murderous attacks were praised and hailed by a huge popular majority in the Muslim word. The popular opinion in the Muslim world state that America brought the attacks on herself by aggravating the Muslims, and/or that it was a 'zionist plot' to smear the Arab world.

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    So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, and who promote conflict rather than the cooperation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity. This cycle of suspicion and discord must end.


    I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles - principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.


The Islamic doctrine considers every nob-Islamic country as 'dar al-charb' and demands for a violent subjugation of the entire world to Islam. While it is true that Hussein Osama shares mutual interest and respect with his Muslim brethren, America and the rest of the free world stands for principles that are diametrically opposite to Islam.

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    I do so recognizing that change cannot happen overnight. No single speech can eradicate years of mistrust, nor can I answer in the time that I have all the complex questions that brought us to this point. But I am convinced that in order to move forward, we must say openly the things we hold in our hearts, and that too often are said only behind closed doors. There must be a sustained effort to listen to each other; to learn from each other; to respect one another; and to seek common ground. As the Holy Koran tells us, "Be conscious of God and speak always the truth." That is what I will try to do - to speak the truth as best I can, humbled by the task before us, and firm in my belief that the interests we share as human beings are far more powerful than the forces that drive us apart.

"Be conscious of God and speak always the truth." So that's That's what Muhammad had in his heart when he made peace with the Quraysh tribe.

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    Part of this conviction is rooted in my own experience. I am a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.


Sheik Tantawy of Al-Azhar says (and perfectly reflects the message of the Quran): "Not all Jews are bad, the good ones become Muslims" Obama, whose father and step father were Muslim, who was registered as a Muslim to schools in Indonesia and the USA, and can recite Arabic prayers, is a good christian in the same sense.

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    As a student of history, I also know civilization's debt to Islam. It was Islam - at places like Al-Azhar University - that carried the light of learning through so many centuries, paving the way for Europe's Renaissance and Enlightenment. It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra; our magnetic compass and tools of navigation; our mastery of pens and printing; our understanding of how disease spreads and how it can be healed. Islamic culture has given us majestic arches and soaring spires; timeless poetry and cherished music; elegant calligraphy and places of peaceful contemplation. And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.

Algebra was developed in India, the magnetic compass is a Chinese invention, pens can be dated back to the bronze age, and printing was invented by 'muslim' scholar named Gutenberg  (and independently by the Chinese). The Islamic philosophers were/are too preoccupied with coming out with justifications for the suppression of thought that Islam dictates.

Regarding religious tolerance- virtually every Muslim country has enacted laws forbidding the a conversion of a Muslim to another religion. Many of the countries enacted death penalty for offending Muhammad. Historically, the Islamic law sanctions special heavy taxes on non-Muslims, deprive them of equal civil rights, and violates their freedom of religious (e.g cannot build new houses of prayer or repair existing ones).

As for racial equality- Arab Muslims are the biggest enslavers of black Africans in history. Even to this days, millions of black Africans are kept as slaves by Muslim Arab owners in Sudan, Mauritania and elsewhere. Not to mention the racial genocide perpetrated  by Sudanese Arabs, backed by Egypt and the entire Arab league,  against black Africans. During the days of the Islamic caliphate, slavery was ubiquitous. The Turkish sultans used to kidnapped Greek, Slav, and black African children and turn them into eunuchs and sex-slaves. The practiced had only been abolished by the dissolution of the Ottoman empire.

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    I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, "The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims." And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States. They have fought in our wars, served in government, stood for civil rights, started businesses, taught at our Universities, excelled in our sports arenas, won Nobel Prizes, built our tallest building, and lit the Olympic Torch. And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers - Thomas Jefferson - kept in his personal library.

The treaty of tripoli was an extortion of ransom and tribute from America by the Muslim pirate Barbary States (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Tripoli). Morocco and the rest of the Barbary pirate states recognized America's Independence from Britain, so they could extort tribute from her. America payed the extortion money to the muslim pirate states until 1801 when president Jefferson refused a demand of $225,000, the result was the first Barbary War, the first ever war against the USA was declared by Muslim pirates from north Africa. The quote of John Adams is taken from article 11 of the treaty. The treaty is a failed attempt of appeasement by a western nation to an Islamic aggressor. Here is the full quote of article 11:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Here is another quote. During London negotiations in 1786, when asked by Jefferson and Adams how could he justify the unprovoked attacks, capturing and enslaving of Americans, a nation who had caused them no wrong, the Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

American Muslims contributed a net negative to America (as is the case in every western country), taking their disproportional large share in violent crime and illegal activity.Muslims in America and in every other country are less educated, more prone to violence, to subversion, to crime and to terrorism.

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    So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn't. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.


    But that same principle must apply to Muslim perceptions of America. Just as Muslims do not fit a crude stereotype, America is not the crude stereotype of a self-interested empire. The United States has been one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has ever known. We were born out of revolution against an empire. We were founded upon the ideal that all are created equal, and we have shed blood and struggled for centuries to give meaning to those words - within our borders, and around the world. We are shaped by every culture, drawn from every end of the Earth, and dedicated to a simple concept: E pluribus unum: "Out of many, one."



    Much has been made of the fact that an African-American with the name Barack Hussein Obama could be elected President. But my personal story is not so unique. The dream of opportunity for all people has not come true for everyone in America, but its promise exists for all who come to our shores - that includes nearly seven million American Muslims in our country today who enjoy incomes and education that are higher than average.

America is founded  on western Judeo-Christian values and western culture. Immigrants from all over the world came to America because they wanted to live by her western values, except for the Muslims who wants to bring their backward cruel culture and religion to America and FORCE everyone to adopt into THEIRS values.

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    Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one's religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.


    So let there be no doubt: Islam is a part of America. And I believe that America holds within her the truth that regardless of race, religion, or station in life, all of us share common aspirations - to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God. These things we share. This is the hope of all humanity.

 
In Islam there is no freedom of religion and women are OBLIGATED to wear the hijab. America allows Muslims to build mosques, to immigrate and to settle in America, while non-Muslims are barred from settling in Islamic countries and non-Muslims cannot freely practice their religion in Muslim countries.

Islam is NOT a part of America, it is creeping into America and will eventually take over it, and that would be the end of all the freedom and aspirations.

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    Of course, recognizing our common humanity is only the beginning of our task. Words alone cannot meet the needs of our people. These needs will be met only if we act boldly in the years ahead; and if we understand that the challenges we face are shared, and our failure to meet them will hurt us all.


    For we have learned from recent experience that when a financial system weakens in one country, prosperity is hurt everywhere. When a new flu infects one human being, all are at risk. When one nation pursues a nuclear weapon, the risk of nuclear attack rises for all nations. When violent extremists operate in one stretch of mountains, people are endangered across an ocean. And when innocents in Bosnia and Darfur are slaughtered, that is a stain on our collective conscience. That is what it means to share this world in the 21st century. That is the responsibility we have to one another as human beings.


There is no comparison between Bosnia and Darfur. And the rest is just rubbish.

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    This is a difficult responsibility to embrace. For human history has often been a record of nations and tribes subjugating one another to serve their own interests. Yet in this new age, such attitudes are self-defeating. Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail. So whatever we think of the past, we must not be prisoners of it. Our problems must be dealt with through partnership; progress must be shared.


Well, Islam undoubtedly elevates one group of people above all else.

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    That does not mean we should ignore sources of tension. Indeed, it suggests the opposite: we must face these tensions squarely. And so in that spirit, let me speak as clearly and plainly as I can about some specific issues that I believe we must finally confront together.


    The first issue that we have to confront is violent extremism in all of its forms.


    In Ankara, I made clear that America is not - and never will be - at war with Islam. We will, however, relentlessly confront violent extremists who pose a grave threat to our security. Because we reject the same thing that people of all faiths reject: the killing of innocent men, women, and children. And it is my first duty as President to protect the American people.


    The situation in Afghanistan demonstrates America's goals, and our need to work together. Over seven years ago, the United States pursued al Qaeda and the Taliban with broad international support. We did not go by choice, we went because of necessity. I am aware that some question or justify the events of 9/11. But let us be clear: al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 people on that day. The victims were innocent men, women and children from America and many other nations who had done nothing to harm anybody. And yet Al Qaeda chose to ruthlessly murder these people, claimed credit for the attack, and even now states their determination to kill on a massive scale. They have affiliates in many countries and are trying to expand their reach. These are not opinions to be debated; these are facts to be dealt with.


    Make no mistake: we do not want to keep our troops in Afghanistan. We seek no military bases there. It is agonizing for America to lose our young men and women. It is costly and politically difficult to continue this conflict. We would gladly bring every single one of our troops home if we could be confident that there were not violent extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan determined to kill as many Americans as they possibly can. But that is not yet the case.

 

    That's why we're partnering with a coalition of forty-six countries. And despite the costs involved, America's commitment will not weaken. Indeed, none of us should tolerate these extremists. They have killed in many countries. They have killed people of different faiths - more than any other, they have killed Muslims. Their actions are irreconcilable with the rights of human beings, the progress of nations, and with Islam. The Holy Koran teaches that whoever kills an innocent, it is as if he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a person, it is as if he has saved all mankind. The enduring faith of over a billion people is so much bigger than the narrow hatred of a few. Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism - it is an important part of promoting peace.

Al-Qaida's actions are completely in line with the Quran. Whatever quote or misquote from the unholy Quran cannot change the fact that Islam sanctions violence and murder against non-Muslims (and in many cases, against other Muslims).

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    We also know that military power alone is not going to solve the problems in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is why we plan to invest $1.5 billion each year over the next five years to partner with Pakistanis to build schools and hospitals, roads and businesses, and hundreds of millions to help those who have been displaced. And that is why we are providing more than $2.8 billion to help Afghans develop their economy and deliver services that people depend upon.


Suckers ! You already gave billions to Pakistan, and they used the funding to create the Taliban and to wage wars and terror attacks against India. You supplied them with arms to fight the Taliban and they ended up supplying the Taliban. Whatever schools you fund are going to teach their pupils that America is the big Satan. Whatever you hand the Muslims would be used in their Jihad against non-Muslims.

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    Let me also address the issue of Iraq. Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq was a war of choice that provoked strong differences in my country and around the world. Although I believe that the Iraqi people are ultimately better off without the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, I also believe that events in Iraq have reminded America of the need to use diplomacy and build international consensus to resolve our problems whenever possible. Indeed, we can recall the words of Thomas Jefferson, who said: "I hope that our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it will be."


    Today, America has a dual responsibility: to help Iraq forge a better future - and to leave Iraq to Iraqis. I have made it clear to the Iraqi people that we pursue no bases, and no claim on their territory or resources. Iraq's sovereignty is its own. That is why I ordered the removal of our combat brigades by next August. That is why we will honor our agreement with Iraq's democratically-elected government to remove combat troops from Iraqi cities by July, and to remove all our troops from Iraq by 2012. We will help Iraq train its Security Forces and develop its economy. But we will support a secure and united Iraq as a partner, and never as a patron.


    And finally, just as America can never tolerate violence by extremists, we must never alter our principles. 9/11 was an enormous trauma to our country. The fear and anger that it provoked was understandable, but in some cases, it led us to act contrary to our ideals. We are taking concrete actions to change course. I have unequivocally prohibited the use of torture by the United States, and I have ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed by early next year.


    So America will defend itself respectful of the sovereignty of nations and the rule of law. And we will do so in partnership with Muslim communities which are also threatened. The sooner the extremists are isolated and unwelcome in Muslim communities, the sooner we will all be safer.


The sooner we stop providing the Muslims with the means to hurt us, the sooner we will be safer.

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    The second major source of tension that we need to discuss is the situation between Israelis, Palestinians and the Arab world.


    America's strong bonds with Israel are well known. This bond is unbreakable. It is based upon cultural and historical ties, and the recognition that the aspiration for a Jewish homeland is rooted in a tragic history that cannot be denied.


    Around the world, the Jewish people were persecuted for centuries, and anti-Semitism in Europe culminated in an unprecedented Holocaust. Tomorrow, I will visit Buchenwald, which was part of a network of camps where Jews were enslaved, tortured, shot and gassed to death by the Third Reich. Six million Jews were killed - more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today. Denying that fact is baseless, ignorant, and hateful. Threatening Israel with destruction - or repeating vile stereotypes about Jews - is deeply wrong, and only serves to evoke in the minds of Israelis this most painful of memories while preventing the peace that the people of this region deserve.

Obama adopts the anti-Jewish narrative, according to which Israel is a modern nation that was established due the the holocaust in Europe and the guilt of the Europeans at the expense of the Arabs.

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    On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people - Muslims and Christians - have suffered in pursuit of a homeland. For more than sixty years they have endured the pain of dislocation. Many wait in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring lands for a life of peace and security that they have never been able to lead. They endure the daily humiliations - large and small - that come with occupation. So let there be no doubt: the situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable. America will not turn our backs on the legitimate Palestinian aspiration for dignity, opportunity, and a state of their own.

Obama equates the Arab illegitimate claims of losing the 23rd Arab state for the Jews, to the Jewish holocaust.

There is no Palestine, there is no Palestinian nation distinctly different from Jordan. Israel is not an occupier, it is the legitimate owner of its historical and eternal motherland.

Any humiliation the Arab suffer is the result of their failed attempt to annihilate Israel, and the deliberate refusal of Arab countries to absorb the Arabs who left Israel as a consequence of their losses. Regardless, If they want a state of their own, they already got one.

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    For decades, there has been a stalemate: two peoples with legitimate aspirations, each with a painful history that makes compromise elusive. It is easy to point fingers - for Palestinians to point to the displacement brought by Israel's founding, and for Israelis to point to the constant hostility and attacks throughout its history from within its borders as well as beyond. But if we see this conflict only from one side or the other, then we will be blind to the truth: the only resolution is for the aspirations of both sides to be met through two states, where Israelis and Palestinians each live in peace and security.


    That is in Israel's interest, Palestine's interest, America's interest, and the world's interest. That is why I intend to personally pursue this outcome with all the patience that the task requires. The obligations that the parties have agreed to under the Road Map are clear. For peace to come, it is time for them - and all of us - to live up to our responsibilities.

Thanks for informing everybody about his best own interest Mr. All-knowing.

Arabs who are 150 million strong and controls over 20 states, on an area that is millions of square kilometers, the result of their violent expansion from Arabia, have no right to 'point finger' and to deny the Jews from their single tiny motherland.

The Arabs demands for 'justice and peace' are Hitlerian, and they have no intention of resting their jihad until Israel is entirely annihilated.

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    Palestinians must abandon violence. Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and does not succeed. For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation. But it was not violence that won full and equal rights. It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America's founding. This same story can be told by people from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to Indonesia. It's a story with a simple truth: that violence is a dead end. It is a sign of neither courage nor power to shoot rockets at sleeping children, or to blow up old women on a bus. That is not how moral authority is claimed; that is how it is surrendered.


    Now is the time for Palestinians to focus on what they can build. The Palestinian Authority must develop its capacity to govern, with institutions that serve the needs of its people. Hamas does have support among some Palestinians, but they also have responsibilities. To play a role in fulfilling Palestinian aspirations, and to unify the Palestinian people, Hamas must put an end to violence, recognize past agreements, and recognize Israel's right to exist.


The only aspiration of the Palestinian Arabs is to destroy Israel.

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    At the same time, Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel's right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine's. The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements. This construction violates previous agreements and undermines efforts to achieve peace. It is time for these settlements to stop.

Israel is a sovereign nation and she needs no approval nor justification for matters considering her internal affairs. Palestine is no more a country than Neverland, and the Jewish nation will not surrender the rightful ownership of Jewish ancestral motherland for the creation of yet another Muslim Arab artificial state.

If Hussein wishes for the creation of such state, let him create it in his own country, or simply recognize the fact that Jordan is already a Palestinian state according to Hussein's own definition of Palestinians.

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    Israel must also live up to its obligations to ensure that Palestinians can live, and work, and develop their society. And just as it devastates Palestinian families, the continuing humanitarian crisis in Gaza does not serve Israel's security; neither does the continuing lack of opportunity in the West Bank. Progress in the daily lives of the Palestinian people must be part of a road to peace, and Israel must take concrete steps to enable such progress


Whatever poor situation is on Gaza or wherever else Arabs live is of no concern to Israel. The Arabs are in the state they are only due to their own making.

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    Finally, the Arab States must recognize that the Arab Peace Initiative was an important beginning, but not the end of their responsibilities. The Arab-Israeli conflict should no longer be used to distract the people of Arab nations from other problems. Instead, it must be a cause for action to help the Palestinian people develop the institutions that will sustain their state; to recognize Israel's legitimacy; and to choose progress over a self-defeating focus on the past.


The Arab states must acknowledge their sole responsibility for creating the Palestinian problem and it is entirely up to them to rectify the situation by grating citizenship to the Palestinian they have been segregating.

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    America will align our policies with those who pursue peace, and say in public what we say in private to Israelis and Palestinians and Arabs. We cannot impose peace. But privately, many Muslims recognize that Israel will not go away. Likewise, many Israelis recognize the need for a Palestinian state. It is time for us to act on what everyone knows to be true.


    Too many tears have flowed. Too much blood has been shed. All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed (peace be upon them) joined in prayer.


Obama proposes the internationalization of the eternal Jewish capital at the expense of Israel. And yet again, like a good 'Christian' he quotes from the unholy Islamic scriptures a story that is completely unchristian and unjewish about Muhammad supposedly joined by Moses and Jesus in prayer.

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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2009, 02:58:59 PM »
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    The third source of tension is our shared interest in the rights and responsibilities of nations on nuclear weapons.


    This issue has been a source of tension between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran. For many years, Iran has defined itself in part by its opposition to my country, and there is indeed a tumultuous history between us. In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically-elected Iranian government. Since the Islamic Revolution, Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking and violence against U.S. troops and civilians. This history is well known. Rather than remain trapped in the past, I have made it clear to Iran's leaders and people that my country is prepared to move forward. The question, now, is not what Iran is against, but rather what future it wants to build.


Iran calls America "the big Satan", supply weapons to Al-Qaida, launched terror attacks against Americans, but for Obama it is all bygones, no biggies, we can move forward.

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    It will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with courage, rectitude and resolve. There will be many issues to discuss between our two countries, and we are willing to move forward without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect. But it is clear to all concerned that when it comes to nuclear weapons, we have reached a decisive point. This is not simply about America's interests. It is about preventing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East that could lead this region and the world down a hugely dangerous path.


    I understand those who protest that some countries have weapons that others do not. No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons. That is why I strongly reaffirmed America's commitment to seek a world in which no nations hold nuclear weapons. And any nation - including Iran - should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power if it complies with its responsibilities under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That commitment is at the core of the Treaty, and it must be kept for all who fully abide by it. And I am hopeful that all countries in the region can share in this goal.


Here Obama sounds like the Irani mullahs themselves who claim their nuclear project is for civilian purposes, and at the same time, they claim that it is not fair that Israel is allowed to posses nuclear weapons while Iran isn't.

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    The fourth issue that I will address is democracy.

 

    I know there has been controversy about the promotion of democracy in recent years, and much of this controversy is connected to the war in Iraq. So let me be clear: no system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other.


    That does not lessen my commitment, however, to governments that reflect the will of the people. Each nation gives life to this principle in its own way, grounded in the traditions of its own people. America does not presume to know what is best for everyone, just as we would not presume to pick the outcome of a peaceful election. But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere.


    There is no straight line to realize this promise. But this much is clear: governments that protect these rights are ultimately more stable, successful and secure. Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. America respects the right of all peaceful and law-abiding voices to be heard around the world, even if we disagree with them. And we will welcome all elected, peaceful governments - provided they govern with respect for all their people.


    This last point is important because there are some who advocate for democracy only when they are out of power; once in power, they are ruthless in suppressing the rights of others. No matter where it takes hold, government of the people and by the people sets a single standard for all who hold power: you must maintain your power through consent, not coercion; you must respect the rights of minorities, and participate with a spirit of tolerance and compromise; you must place the interests of your people and the legitimate workings of the political process above your party. Without these ingredients, elections alone do not make true democracy.


There is not a single democracy in the Muslim world.  In the Muslim world government that allow some freedom of speech are extremely unstable.

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    The fifth issue that we must address together is religious freedom.


    Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition. I saw it firsthand as a child in Indonesia, where devout Christians worshiped freely in an overwhelmingly Muslim country. That is the spirit we need today. People in every country should be free to choose and live their faith based upon the persuasion of the mind, heart, and soul. This tolerance is essential for religion to thrive, but it is being challenged in many different ways.


Are you kidding me ? Even Andalusia and Cordoba saw only a brief period of relative tolerance, a policy which changed to religious abuse and persecutions. Christians and other minorities are a persecuted, and thousands of Christians are Killed annually by Islamic violence.

People in Muslim countries are not free to chose their faith. Once a Muslim, they must remain Muslim, and otherwise, they must endure discrimination and violence.

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    Among some Muslims, there is a disturbing tendency to measure one's own faith by the rejection of another's. The richness of religious diversity must be upheld - whether it is for Maronites in Lebanon or the Copts in Egypt. And fault lines must be closed among Muslims as well, as the divisions between Sunni and Shia have led to tragic violence, particularly in Iraq.


    Freedom of religion is central to the ability of peoples to live together. We must always examine the ways in which we protect it. For instance, in the United States, rules on charitable giving have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation. That is why I am committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat.

 

    Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit - for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.


    Indeed, faith should bring us together. That is why we are forging service projects in America that bring together Christians, Muslims, and Jews. That is why we welcome efforts like Saudi Arabian King Abdullah's Interfaith dialogue and Turkey's leadership in the Alliance of Civilizations. Around the world, we can turn dialogue into Interfaith service, so bridges between peoples lead to action - whether it is combating malaria in Africa, or providing relief after a natural disaster.

Once again Obama claims that westerner must adopt themselves to the Muslims Muslims don't have to adopt themselves to the western. Because they are already so perfect and advanced and tolerance since the days of Andalusia and Cordoba.

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    The sixth issue that I want to address is women's rights.


    I know there is debate about this issue. I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality. And it is no coincidence that countries where women are well-educated are far more likely to be prosperous.


    Now let me be clear: issues of women's equality are by no means simply an issue for Islam. In Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia, we have seen Muslim-majority countries elect a woman to lead. Meanwhile, the struggle for women's equality continues in many aspects of American life, and in countries around the world.


    Our daughters can contribute just as much to society as our sons, and our common prosperity will be advanced by allowing all humanity - men and women - to reach their full potential. I do not believe that women must make the same choices as men in order to be equal, and I respect those women who choose to live their lives in traditional roles. But it should be their choice. That is why the United States will partner with any Muslim-majority country to support expanded literacy for girls, and to help young women pursue employment through micro-financing that helps people live their dreams.

The Muslims are the most misogynistic people on earth. Some of the Muslim countries such as the Saudi Arabia and the gulf states are among the richest nations in the world and at the same time the most discriminant against women. So, you can't solve everything by money, and does he think America has got the cash to spare on yet another lost cause ?

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    Finally, I want to discuss economic development and opportunity.


    I know that for many, the face of globalization is contradictory. The Internet and television can bring knowledge and information, but also offensive sexuality and mindless violence. Trade can bring new wealth and opportunities, but also huge disruptions and changing communities. In all nations - including my own - this change can bring fear. Fear that because of modernity we will lose of control over our economic choices, our politics, and most importantly our identities - those things we most cherish about our communities, our families, our traditions, and our faith.


    But I also know that human progress cannot be denied. There need not be contradiction between development and tradition. Countries like Japan and South Korea grew their economies while maintaining distinct cultures. The same is true for the astonishing progress within Muslim-majority countries from Kuala Lumpur to Dubai. In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.


There is a big difference between sitting on a huge reserve of natural treasure to being innovative and industrious.

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This is important because no development strategy can be based only upon what comes out of the ground, nor can it be sustained while young people are out of work. Many Gulf States have enjoyed great wealth as a consequence of oil, and some are beginning to focus it on broader development. But all of us must recognize that education and innovation will be the currency of the 21st century, and in too many Muslim communities there remains underinvestment in these areas. I am emphasizing such investments within my country. And while America in the past has focused on oil and gas in this part of the world, we now seek a broader engagement.

    On education, we will expand exchange programs, and increase scholarships, like the one that brought my father to America, while encouraging more Americans to study in Muslim communities. And we will match promising Muslim students with internships in America; invest in on-line learning for teachers and children around the world; and create a new online network, so a teenager in Kansas can communicate instantly with a teenager in Cairo.


    On economic development, we will create a new corps of business volunteers to partner with counterparts in Muslim-majority countries. And I will host a Summit on Entrepreneurship this year to identify how we can deepen ties between business leaders, foundations and social entrepreneurs in the United States and Muslim communities around the world.


    On science and technology, we will launch a new fund to support technological development in Muslim-majority countries, and to help transfer ideas to the marketplace so they can create jobs. We will open centers of scientific excellence in Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia, and appoint new Science Envoys to collaborate on programs that develop new sources of energy, create green jobs, digitize records, clean water, and grow new crops. And today I am announcing a new global effort with the Organization of the Islamic Conference to eradicate polio. And we will also expand partnerships with Muslim communities to promote child and maternal health.

 

    All these things must be done in partnership. Americans are ready to join with citizens and governments; community organizations, religious leaders, and businesses in Muslim communities around the world to help our people pursue a better life.


In the 18th century they called these funds protection tributes. You can name it whatever you like, but in fact it is a bribe for Muslim nations in a pathetic attempt to dodge terrorist attacks against American targets.

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    I know there are many - Muslim and non-Muslim - who question whether we can forge this new beginning. Some are eager to stoke the flames of division, and to stand in the way of progress. Some suggest that it isn't worth the effort - that we are fated to disagree, and civilizations are doomed to clash. Many more are simply skeptical that real change can occur. There is so much fear, so much mistrust. But if we choose to be bound by the past, we will never move forward. And I want to particularly say this to young people of every faith, in every country - you, more than anyone, have the ability to remake this world.

 

    All of us share this world for but a brief moment in time. The question is whether we spend that time focused on what pushes us apart, or whether we commit ourselves to an effort - a sustained effort - to find common ground, to focus on the future we seek for our children, and to respect the dignity of all human beings.


    It is easier to start wars than to end them. It is easier to blame others than to look inward; to see what is different about someone than to find the things we share. But we should choose the right path, not just the easy path. There is also one rule that lies at the heart of every religion - that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. This truth transcends nations and peoples - a belief that isn't new; that isn't black or white or brown; that isn't Christian, or Muslim or Jew. It's a belief that pulsed in the cradle of civilization, and that still beats in the heart of billions. It's a faith in other people, and it's what brought me here today.


 
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   We have the power to make the world we seek, but only if we have the courage to make a new beginning, keeping in mind what has been written.

    The Holy Koran tells us, "O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another."

     The Talmud tells us: "The whole of the Torah is for the purpose of promoting peace."

And the Talmud tells us: "He who is kind to the cruel, is cruel to the kind".

   
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The Holy Bible tells us, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."

(That's from the Christian bible)

   
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The people of the world can live together in peace. We know that is God's vision. Now, that must be our work here on Earth. Thank you. And may God's peace be upon you.


My final conclusion: This is a disgusting dhimmic  attempt to hold the tetrahedron from its four points, all while bowing down low to Muhammad and trying to leak his feet while remain sited on a pile of blazing charcoal.

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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2009, 03:08:38 PM »
From what I read and heard of this speech it simply demonstrates Obumblers glaring lack of understanding of world history and his desire to destroy all that is good in this world. He obviously takes the side of the islamists and would rejoice when America is no longer around.

I want to hear a loud calling for an impeachment of this Shame in the oval office. Every day the roar of the people calling for Obumbler to be impeached should grow louder. This man is beyond dangerous, he is evil and has proven which side he is on.

Obama must be removed from office, most preferably legally. I think Biden is just stupid and lazy, not actually evil and muslim,



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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2009, 03:17:07 PM »
Great analysis  :)

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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2009, 04:10:51 PM »
Zelhar, this was an excellent post. What a fantastic job!


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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2009, 04:16:04 PM »
Zelhar, this was an excellent post. What a fantastic job!


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Re: Hussein's Cairo Speech, with commentary.
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 04:18:20 PM »
Thank you guys :)