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Not OK to deny
Maccabi:
Quotes from 'truthtyper':
"What happened to Ernsty Zundel was a tragedy. Anyone that defies the liberals in Europa gets silenced immediently these days."
"Go educate yourself kid, http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/
This is a very interesting 4 hour documentary on the overexaggeration of the holocaust."
"Anyways, Germans need to get off the whole world war-2 guilt trip. The Allied nations demonized the germans and took the side of the Marxist Communist SOviet Union to fight against Hitler."
"The jewish holocaust wasn't that bad and very exaggerated by Americans, british, and Soviets. The worse tragedy of the 20th century was Stalin rising to power and killing 30 million people."
"I just don't believe 6 million jews died. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but these numbers are clearly overexaggerated in order to assist the allies in winning a propaganda war against Nazi Germany."
"I said I respected the third reich since they tried to recreate Rome. the Roman Empire was the greatest empire ever in existence. Yeah in the end days they fell to corruption (an example would be the temple of venus you mentioned) and made some terrible decisions (Splitting the Roman Empire into western adn eastern) but they were still the greatest empire ever with a dramatic fall."
"I wish It was Nazi Norway. Unfortunately its the People's republic of Norway"
So basically, I gather that you think Germans were demonized, they shouldn't feel guilty, because hey, the holocaust was exxagerated (and wasn't that bad), that it is mostly Jewish propoganda, and that guys like Zundel are heroes (and what a 'tragedy'...5 years in prison).
You also 'respected the third reich', wish Nazism would rise again in Norway, and you babble about how great German culture is.
I guess my opinions are different. I think Germany sucks. I think those lazy pathetic reich queers were too lazy to build anything for themselves and wanted Jewish death camp labor and to plunder Jewish wealth. I think their cuisine is for crap, I think they deserved every bit of 'demonization' and got off way to easy. I think drek like zundel who defends those actions and tries to whitewash it are garbage.
Even if he did get jailed for 5 years how is that a tragedy and why do you think anyone here would care about some pea brained imbecile propoganda writer who basically endorses the holocaust?
These types are the clowns that work with Ahmanijad and have their little conferences and build little holocaust mockery museums and raise toasts to the annihalition of Israel. How could you possibly care for them and be pro-Israel?
So do you think that the sadistic experiments Goebbels did were Jewish (or Allied) propoganda too?
You are entitled to free speech and your opinion and to examine the data. But you post links to lame propoganda sites that are part of the collective anti-semitism industry. If you want to believe that the holocaust was not a big deal and that 6 million jews were not murdered, you will find plenty of sources to back you up. They're a dime a dozen, pseudo intellectual queer david duke types.
"Macka, it seems anyone who disagrees with Holocaust denial laws and "hate speech" laws (which prevent whites from saying racial slurs against blacks, arabs, etc..) is deemed anti-semetic. I just don't get it."
TruthTyper, I really don't care about hate speech laws that much. That is not my issue with you. Free speech is mostly fine with me I agree that some hate speech laws, like the ones preventing people from criticising muzzies are bad. But not speech about holocaust exxagerations (no big deal, not so bad...) on a Jewish forum. Or pining away about the injustice of the Zundel peon. Or your nostalgia & admiration for Germany or Nazism.
I just don't see how you reasonably expect to come to a pro-Jewish forum and start posting these things so cavaliery as if they are fact saying things such as 'go educate yourself kid'. These are posts and ideas for StørmFrønt or something.
I guess it just bugs me to see these posts here.
No one knows the exact numbers of the Holocaust...but it was enough. I wish it were exxagerated.
And believe me, I take absolutely no pleasure in 'bullying' or arguing with a 15 yr old.
So you don't think it is the slightest bit arrogant to post these things here?
Din Rodef:
--- Quote from: TruthTyper on April 03, 2007, 07:47:32 PM ---ftf, not one person on this thread said the holocaust was a lie or promoted people denying it. My philosphy revolves around the first amendment (freedom of speech) and people can say what they want without getting 8 years in jail.
As I said in another thread (or this one?) pretty soon when minoritys are elected into high positions in European government (a lot already are), it'll one day become illegal to insult what the government is doing. i garuntee you, that is the path Europe is taking.
--- End quote ---
I agree 1000% with your last statement. And I also agree that you haven't denied the holocaust.
Truthtyper, you're in a Jewish forum. These guys have dealt with anti-semitism their entire lives. Unlike other Jews that would walk in a straight line into a gas chamber...JTF Jews would get mad and fight back.
When a JTF Jew reads a statement by you that sounds like you might be defending a holocaust denier...then their very approriate Jewish reaction is to IMMEDIATELY defend themselves. They can't take any chances at this point. They have to assume the worst. They have to assume that you're a Nazi.
I'm assuming that you are a white American. (am I right?)
I am not a Jew. I am a White Christian American that supports Israel 1000%. I am in alliance with the JTF Jews. Maybe that is why I can understand where you're coming from a bit better than they can.
Anyhow, I think that it is very approriate for your status to be changed to "guest"...Yacov is an excellent moderator. I hope that someday your status can be changed to full JTFer...I hope you stick around.
ftfl:
Just for reference, I am a Christian, but my great grandma was a Jew and was murdered by the nazis.
Sarah:
--- Quote ---Germany is a great nation with a great history. Ask any of them if they hate jews and almost no one will say they do, sarah
--- End quote ---
Oh what and you have? :D
The Judiciary of Germany is independent of the executive and the legislative branches. Germany has a civil or statute law system that is based on Roman law with some references to Germanic law. So its no wonder you like Germany since its legislative system derived from your roman heros.
The thing i like about the roman empire, was the architecture and development of materialistic things e.g. roads, mechanisms. In that field they had brains but man were the romans the greatest HOMOSEXUALS. Nasty.
I want you too stay. You sound intelligent on the grounds that you know things. But it seems you are now a guest?
Fruit of thy loins:
I think a mod dumped his backside out of the forum. Good job. :)
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