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Chaim ben Pesach hates me
Fruit of thy loins:
--- Quote from: Sarah on April 18, 2007, 03:08:33 PM ---Actually, I thought you considered me too young. I honestly didn’t believe there to be a broader meaning and if I was older, even when I am, I would marry you. Inadequate socially?! In fact, this post makes me want to marry you more but I understand what you mean about it being depressing.
My sister is already seeing people. She seems to have left JTF.
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Of course she is. ;) Anyone who is normal, who goes to university, and is even only half-way successful, is going to date other people from university rather than meeting people online.
We cannot control the feelings we have at various times in our life. And everything you say here means a lot to me. But once you get to university you will realize that the internet is not the best way to meet people. Only one person I knew at university met people on the net. He was homosexual and found random sex partners off the local dating sites because it was easier than finding random men at the queer nightclubs.
Almost everyone else makes the people they meet at work and at university their best friends and lovers.
We don't control these feelings.
Fruit of thy loins:
--- Quote from: Allen-T on April 18, 2007, 03:16:58 PM ---Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as of a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. And it's actually far more graphic and worse; the term filthy rag in the Hebrew is "behg' ed" which is a woman's menstrual rag, according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of The Bible, Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary entries #'s 899 & 5708[there is possibly another "ed" added to behg' ed, I am not sure]. Anyway, who is the Torah made and not made for? We all suck! :'( :'(
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Did Isaiah not wish to call the Jews of his day to repentence before the great calamities befell them? The JEws were besieged by foreign armies, humiliated and even resorted to eating the flesh of their own children, cooked in their own feces.
It is not necessarily true that the verse calls for all people to feel that their righteousness is as menstruous rags before the Alm-ghty for all time. There is some historical context there.
Also, I firmly believe the whole of the Bible to be coded and largely incomprehensible when read on its own.
cjd:
Fruit you really are something else. Why is it necessary to go on a destructive bent with yourself. Things are bound to shape up. You said you unemployed, as I told you another time before work on that problem first. You will then be out in the work place and meet some nice ladies.
Allen-T:
--- Quote from: Fruit of thy loins on April 18, 2007, 04:34:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Allen-T on April 18, 2007, 03:16:58 PM ---Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as of a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. And it's actually far more graphic and worse; the term filthy rag in the Hebrew is "behg' ed" which is a woman's menstrual rag, according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of The Bible, Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary entries #'s 899 & 5708[there is possibly another "ed" added to behg' ed, I am not sure]. Anyway, who is the Torah made and not made for? We all suck! :'( :'(
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Did Isaiah not wish to call the Jews of his day to repentence before the great calamities befell them? The JEws were besieged by foreign armies, humiliated and even resorted to eating the flesh of their own children, cooked in their own feces.
It is not necessarily true that the verse calls for all people to feel that their righteousness is as menstruous rags before the Alm-ghty for all time. There is some historical context there.
Also, I firmly believe the whole of the Bible to be coded and largely incomprehensible when read on its own.
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The verse I cited means that when we judge our own works by our own standards we think we are the cat's pajamas. But G-d judges our works by G-d's standards and in that light we are as the verse describes, in need of a saviour.
Allen-T:
Getting a proper understanding of the Bible requires W-O-R-K. It requires a disciplined regiment of regular study with good teachers. There is no shortage of verses in the Bible about how G-d hates sloths. There is no excuse.
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