Interesting film about children of famous nazis and also about von Stauffenbergs

[mord]

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one is married to an Israeli i think a Himmler child.Warning one of Girl decedents mentions pre maritial sex .So if your religious don't watch the film but it's not really sexual just a sentence

[Ulli]

I thank god, that I was not born into such a family. The children of the animals are imo nuts and they should carry their problems to a psychologist and not use the public to therapy their problems.

[JTFenthusiast2]

Ulli,

I tell you, I understand your point. I felt skeptical as well.  No doubt for some of them I would still be skeptical.  But the fact that both of Goering's children had themselves sterilized so as to never pass on his genes, well this I think is a very sobering testament to their attempt to be righteous in the face of great evil.  Just a thought..

[Ulli]

Ulli,

I tell you, I understand your point. I felt skeptical as well.  No doubt for some of them I would still be skeptical.  But the fact that both of Goering's children had themselves sterilized so as to never pass on his genes, well this I think is a very sobering testament to their attempt to be righteous in the face of great evil.  Just a thought..

JTFenthusiast, the woman is not Goerings daughter, but his grandniece. Goerings daughter's name was Edda. She was a Nazi to the end. The worst people in post-1945 Germany were all either the descendends of Nazis or even Nazis themselves. A good example for this is the writer Guenther Grass who supported all the leftist causes. Then it came recently to light and he admitted, that he was an member of the Waffen SS.

And I have another proof. The areas where the NSDAP was strongest before 1933 are exactly the areas where the people voted in post war Germany mostly for SPD, Green and Leftist party (ex-sed).

You find in Germany today only a very small number of people who support Naziism openly. In fact today they call themselves Anti-Zionists. Their agenda is Socialism, fighting against Islamophobia and for justice for so called Palestine as well as anti-americanism. Henryk M. Broder writes a lot about their new trick. He phrased it this way: Because the Germans have learned so much from the Holocaust, they want now to help the Jews not to make the same mistake they made. (He meant it sarcastic).

[JTFenthusiast2]

Ulli,

Thanks for your response.  I don't believe that what you describe speaks to the Germans in this film.  They seem repentant, some of them having gone to drastic measures to ensure that their forefather's legacy disappears.  They did this by destroying their own ability to reproduce, thereby ending the gene pool that gave their forefather's life.

[Ulli]

Ulli,

Thanks for your response.  I don't believe that what you describe speaks to the Germans in this film.  They seem repentant, some of them having gone to drastic measures to ensure that their forefather's legacy disappears.  They did this by destroying their own ability to reproduce, thereby ending the gene pool that gave their forefather's life.

If I look at them and listen to their words I remember to have seen and heard it hundreds of times in speeches in radio I read it in books in the newspaper. I know this kind of people and how they think. They seriously feel guilty because they identify with their parents and this is why they will never forgive the Jews for the holocaust. It is about guilt, love and hate. It is pathological.

Here is an article in haaretz about Bettina Goering: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1033021.html

[mord]

But i think it's crazy for the brother and sister to sterilize themselves.The Dr.should be prosecuted.Yes off course they would be Greens or socialists because Bolsheviks [extreme socialists] like stalin were basically nazis.Why did they put Stauffenbergs grandson in with them

[Zelhar]

Ulli,

Thanks for your response.  I don't believe that what you describe speaks to the Germans in this film.  They seem repentant, some of them having gone to drastic measures to ensure that their forefather's legacy disappears.  They did this by destroying their own ability to reproduce, thereby ending the gene pool that gave their forefather's life.

It seems to me that Germans still have problematic concepts of genetic predispositions of moral behavior. This is complete rubbish IMO.

Interesting though is that with high probability Goering's true biological father was a certain germanized Jew or part Jew with whom Goering's mother had an adulterous affair. Goering's brother who was probably 100% German was actually much more decent and I read somewhere he actually used the influence he had on his brother to save several Jews.

[mord]

Ulli,

Thanks for your response.  I don't believe that what you describe speaks to the Germans in this film.  They seem repentant, some of them having gone to drastic measures to ensure that their forefather's legacy disappears.  They did this by destroying their own ability to reproduce, thereby ending the gene pool that gave their forefather's life.

It seems to me that Germans still have problematic concepts of genetic predispositions of moral behavior. This is complete rubbish IMO.

Interesting though is that with high probability Goering's true biological father was a certain germanized Jew or part Jew with whom Goering's mother had an adulterous affair. Goering's brother who was probably 100% German was actually much more decent and I read somewhere he actually used the influence he had on his brother to save several Jews.

Yes Goerings brother   did save Jews and was a decent person. Yes you are correct look here

http://www.auschwitz.dk/albert.htm

[Zelhar]

Ulli,

Thanks for your response.  I don't believe that what you describe speaks to the Germans in this film.  They seem repentant, some of them having gone to drastic measures to ensure that their forefather's legacy disappears.  They did this by destroying their own ability to reproduce, thereby ending the gene pool that gave their forefather's life.

It seems to me that Germans still have problematic concepts of genetic predispositions of moral behavior. This is complete rubbish IMO.

Interesting though is that with high probability Goering's true biological father was a certain germanized Jew or part Jew with whom Goering's mother had an adulterous affair. Goering's brother who was probably 100% German was actually much more decent and I read somewhere he actually used the influence he had on his brother to save several Jews.

Yes Goerings brother   did save Jews and was a decent person. Yes you are correct look here

http://www.auschwitz.dk/albert.htm

Oh but I was mistaken in one detail- it was the younger brother Albert who may have been conceived out of wedlock.

There were all the difference in the world between the two brothers, though they were very fond of each other. The elder Hermann with his bright blue eyes, bold, resolute and completely without fear, loved his youngest brother, Albert, who was a sad boy with doe-brown eyes, looking uncannily like his godfather, Baron Hermann von Epenstein, intimate with their mother Fanny.