Blackman thinks Afrocentism is Affirmative Action myths

[BabylonianJew]

Davis History Professor Clarence E. Walker doesn't have any plans to visit Cal State Long Beach or Temple University in Philadelphia soon.

That's where two of the most vocal proponents of Afrocentrism (Ron Karenga and Molefi Asante, respectively) teach.

Walker doesn't think he'd get an especially warm reception on either campus because his most recent book, "We Can't Go Home Again: An Argument About Afrocentrism" (Oxford University Press, 2001), is devoted to knocking their theories about a black African cradle of civilization out of the ring.

According to Walker's book, Afrocentrism encourages black Americans to discard their recent history, with its inescapable white presence, and to embrace an empowering vision of their African (specifically Egyptian) ancestors as the source of Western civilization, a dubious claim to distant glory that fails to come to grips with complex modern problems.

Walker describes Afrocentrism as a form of totalitarian groupthink, devoid of historical accuracy.

"Afrocentrism is a mythology that is racist, reactionary, and essentially therapeutic," writes Walker. "It suggests that nothing important has happened in black history since the time of the pharaohs and thus trivializes the history of black Americans. Afrocentrism places an emphasis on Egypt that is, to put it bluntly, absurd.

"I've always been interested in critical history," said Walker in an interview at his on-campus office. He is finding his views at odds with those who don't want anything critical said about blacks.

Walker has been an American history professor at Davis for 16 years. He grew up in an integrated neighborhood in West Berkeley and graduated from Berkeley High School. He earned his Ph.D. from Cal in 1976.

He is especially interested in the history of race and racial ideas and will be teaching a class this winter on the novel as social history. He is impatient with people who don't think critically, and he doesn't care if those people are black or white.

"There is no evidence that the ancient Egyptians were black as we understand that term today," he said.

"Afrocentrism essentializes history, caricatures Africa and holds out the past to be recaptured," he said. "It's not smart and it's not practical."

However, over the past 10 years it has achieved some academic currency, which upsets Walker.

"Black people are not the same today as they were in the past," he says. "We are of African descent, but we are not African."

He says Afrocentrism caricatures Africa by suggesting that that vast continent has one uniform culture.

"And glorifying history doesn't give us a great purchase on the contemporary world," he said. "In the post-industrial American society, no one should worry about whether Cleopatra was black or white," he added.

Walker said his parents came from southern Texas. He was born in Houston in 1941. His family then moved to California. He has never been to Africa and he has no desire to go there.

"The argument about origins misses the point," he said. "It's not your origins that are important but what you do with them. You have to take responsibility."

He understands that the Afrocentrist movement is designed in part to give blacks self-esteem and a sense of community.

Walker shrugs this off, too. "Fairy tales aren't going to get it."

"In terms of the education of black children, it hasn't done much," he said. "It may have given some kids a false sense of pride and that's not terribly useful."

Instead of promoting the mythology of Afrocentrism, Walker would like to see colleges and universities hire professors of African history who know what they're talking about.

At UCD, he'd like to see a professor of West African history who could teach classes on pre-colonial Africa and the slave trade.

"Students would learn that blacks in the United States didn't come out of a void; that there were complex societies in West Africa," he said.

"History is controversial," said Walker. "But how you read the past has all sorts of implications for the present." Walker suggests that there were many cradles of civilization including Egypt, the Nile Valley and China.

"I'm an old-fashioned intellectual critic," said Walker. "I don't like a lot of work being done in the field. No history should be presented as an exercise in celebration.

"What black people really need is a usable present, not a usable past," he added.

Walker said the publication of his book raised some eyebrows in black circles.

But he has not head from Molefi Asante.

"There's nothing to talk about with them," he said. "Just because you want to believe the world was created by black people doesn't make it so."

What he says about it "

"Afrocentrism is a mythology that is racist, reactionary, and essentially therapeutic. It suggests that nothing important has happened in black history since the time of the pharaohs and thus trivializes the history of black Americans. Afrocentrism places an emphasis on Egypt that is, to put it bluntly, absurd. [...] Just because you want to believe the world was created by black people doesn't make it so."

-- Clarence E. Walker



The absurd notion that Ancient Egypt was a product of Negro ingenuity is now being widely disseminated in the schools. Though scholars know this is a blatant lie, they justify the deception by assuming it will boost the "self-esteem" of Black children.

"Weez da Egyptians were black, then the White Greeks stole our civilization and shruken our brains with their magic."

[BabylonianJew]

Never knew it come out a [censored] mouth, some guy posted the article on [censored site].

[BabylonianJew]

If they bulided Egypt why Haiti is crap

HAITI

FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only completely Black republic in the Western Hemisphere also happens to be the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. It also has the lowest life expectancy, highest illiteracy, lowest per capita consumption of newsprint, lowest per capita GNP, and the lowest level of political stability. (27)

FACT #56: Haiti once had a promising future. Before 1789 as a French colony under White rule, San Domingo (Haiti) was as rich or richer in productivity as all the 13 American Colonies combined. It was considered the "crown jewel" of the French colonial system, and was in fact the most prosperous colony anywhere in the world. Populated by 40,000 Whites, 27,000 freed Mulattoes, and 450,000 Black slaves and with a bountiful climate and productive soil, it supplied all of France and half of Europe with sugar, coffee, and cotton. But in 1791, the French government issued a decree ordering Haiti to give the vote to the Mulattoes, and soon after another ordering freedom for all the slaves. This resulted in a bloody civil war in which the entire White population (about 40,000 Frenchmen) was murdered, down to the last man, woman, and child. Rape, decapitation, and mutilation were committed almost universally upon their bodies. (22) (23)

FACT #57: After the Blacks massacred the last of the White population in 1804, Haiti remained a part of Santa Domingo, until 1844 when it became a separate "republic." Between 1844 and 1915 only one Haitian president completed his term in office. Fourteen were ousted by armed uprisings, one was blown up, one was poisoned and another was hacked to pieces by a mob. Between 1908 and 1915 the revolutions and assassinations increased so rapidly that a United States military occupation was needed to restore order. This lasted from 1915 to 1934. Thereafter followed twelve years of rule by a Mulatto elite which ended in the resumption of control by the Black military in 1946. Since then wholesale corruption and political murder have been the rule. (23)

[Bodhi]

If they bulided Egypt why Haiti is crap

HAITI

FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only completely Black republic in the Western Hemisphere also happens to be the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. It also has the lowest life expectancy, highest illiteracy, lowest per capita consumption of newsprint, lowest per capita GNP, and the lowest level of political stability. (27)

FACT #56: Haiti once had a promising future. Before 1789 as a French colony under White rule, San Domingo (Haiti) was as rich or richer in productivity as all the 13 American Colonies combined. It was considered the "crown jewel" of the French colonial system, and was in fact the most prosperous colony anywhere in the world. Populated by 40,000 Whites, 27,000 freed Mulattoes, and 450,000 Black slaves and with a bountiful climate and productive soil, it supplied all of France and half of Europe with sugar, coffee, and cotton. But in 1791, the French government issued a decree ordering Haiti to give the vote to the Mulattoes, and soon after another ordering freedom for all the slaves. This resulted in a bloody civil war in which the entire White population (about 40,000 Frenchmen) was murdered, down to the last man, woman, and child. Rape, decapitation, and mutilation were committed almost universally upon their bodies. (22) (23)

FACT #57: After the Blacks massacred the last of the White population in 1804, Haiti remained a part of Santa Domingo, until 1844 when it became a separate "republic." Between 1844 and 1915 only one Haitian president completed his term in office. Fourteen were ousted by armed uprisings, one was blown up, one was poisoned and another was hacked to pieces by a mob. Between 1908 and 1915 the revolutions and assassinations increased so rapidly that a United States military occupation was needed to restore order. This lasted from 1915 to 1934. Thereafter followed twelve years of rule by a Mulatto elite which ended in the resumption of control by the Black military in 1946. Since then wholesale corruption and political murder have been the rule. (23)

  Sure buddy, it may be true, but it's straight out of StørmFrønt  WTF?  But they "builded" it allright ??!!

[bongoid]

If they bulided Egypt why Haiti is crap

HAITI

FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only completely Black republic in the Western Hemisphere also happens to be the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. It also has the lowest life expectancy, highest illiteracy, lowest per capita consumption of newsprint, lowest per capita GNP, and the lowest level of political stability. (27)

FACT #56: Haiti once had a promising future. Before 1789 as a French colony under White rule, San Domingo (Haiti) was as rich or richer in productivity as all the 13 American Colonies combined. It was considered the "crown jewel" of the French colonial system, and was in fact the most prosperous colony anywhere in the world. Populated by 40,000 Whites, 27,000 freed Mulattoes, and 450,000 Black slaves and with a bountiful climate and productive soil, it supplied all of France and half of Europe with sugar, coffee, and cotton. But in 1791, the French government issued a decree ordering Haiti to give the vote to the Mulattoes, and soon after another ordering freedom for all the slaves. This resulted in a bloody civil war in which the entire White population (about 40,000 Frenchmen) was murdered, down to the last man, woman, and child. Rape, decapitation, and mutilation were committed almost universally upon their bodies. (22) (23)

FACT #57: After the Blacks massacred the last of the White population in 1804, Haiti remained a part of Santa Domingo, until 1844 when it became a separate "republic." Between 1844 and 1915 only one Haitian president completed his term in office. Fourteen were ousted by armed uprisings, one was blown up, one was poisoned and another was hacked to pieces by a mob. Between 1908 and 1915 the revolutions and assassinations increased so rapidly that a United States military occupation was needed to restore order. This lasted from 1915 to 1934. Thereafter followed twelve years of rule by a Mulatto elite which ended in the resumption of control by the Black military in 1946. Since then wholesale corruption and political murder have been the rule. (23)

  Sure buddy, it may be true, but it's straight out of StørmFrønt  WTF?  But they "builded" it allright ??!!

 Always remember that StørmFrønt & other Nazi sites use info from other sources that is true.All of the things about Haiti that were said is verifiable from other sources so one does not actually need StørmFrønt or any other Nazi site for information on Haiti.Truth is that Haiti = Zimbabwe = Rwanda=Detroit & other Hell-holes.Even the Haitians think it is a $#!+Hole.Otherwise why do so mant come here ?

[fjack]

The only things wrong with these nazi sites is that they hate Jews. I have confronted these morons and every once in a while I make a convert of them. This is the problem. Most of these morons still see the Jews as the ones that destroyed their way of life in the south. It was the liberal secular Jews who demanded that intergration take place, to have blacks sit next to white children to molest the white girls and beat up white boys when the blacks had the majority. All beaches were destroyed, public swimming pools destroyed, all bus and subway services destroyed by allowing blacks to access them. When asked of these liberals "why don't you send your children to school to sit next to these black savages'?, the liberal answers, ' we can't do that because of religious reasons'. This is the main contention of why Jews are hated by these morons. When I confront them with Chaim they are shell schooked. I had nazi's tell me that they did not believe that JTF was a truely Jewish organinzation. They could not believe that their are Jewish people that actually have their heads screwed on correct. They are dumbfounded. They believe that all Jews are like Ron Kuby, Ed koch, and the rest of the left wing. If we had more exposure, I really think that we could save some of the idiots, I know I have.

[ChaimBenMordechai]

The only things wrong with these nazi sites is that they hate Jews. I have confronted these morons and every once in a while I make a convert of them. This is the problem. Most of these morons still see the Jews as the ones that destroyed their way of life in the south. It was the liberal secular Jews who demanded that intergration take place, to have blacks sit next to white children to molest the white girls and beat up white boys when the blacks had the majority. All beaches were destroyed, public swimming pools destroyed, all bus and subway services destroyed by allowing blacks to access them. When asked of these liberals "why don't you send your children to school to sit next to these black savages'?, the liberal answers, ' we can't do that because of religious reasons'. This is the main contention of why Jews are hated by these morons. When I confront them with Chaim they are shell schooked. I had nazi's tell me that they did not believe that JTF was a truely Jewish organinzation. They could not believe that their are Jewish people that actually have their heads screwed on correct. They are dumbfounded. They believe that all Jews are like Ron Kuby, Ed koch, and the rest of the left wing. If we had more exposure, I really think that we could save some of the idiots, I know I have.

Believe me..I *USED* to be one of those idiots...

[Bodhi]

 

Translated to Ebonics for fair and equal access to all americans   

Davis History Professor Clarence E. Walker don' gots any plans ta visit Cal State Long Beach or Temple University in Philadelphia soon.

That'swhere two o' da most vocal proponents o' Afrocentrism (Ron Karenga an' Molefi Asante, respectively) teach.

Walker don' th'o't he'd git an especially warm reception on either campus cuz his most recent book, "We Can't Go Home Again: An Argument About Afrocentrism" (Oxford University Press, 2001), iz devoted ta knocking they theories about uh negroid African cradle o' civilization out o' da ring.

According ta Walker'sbook, Afrocentrism encourages negroid Americans ta discard they recent history, wiff its inescapable whitey presence, an' ta embrace an empowering vision o' they African (specifically Egyptian) ancestors as da source o' Western civilization, uh dubious claim ta distant glory dat fails ta come ta grips wiff complex modern problems.

Walker describes Afrocentrism as uh form o' totalitarian groupthink, devoid o' historical accuracy.

"Afrocentrism iz uh mythology dat iz racist, reactionary, an' essentially therapeutic," writes Walker. "It suggests dat nuttin' important has happened in negroid history since da tyme o' da pharaohs an' thus trivializes da history o' negroid Americans. Afrocentrism places an emphasis on Egypt dat iz, ta put it bluntly, absurd.

"I've always been interested in critical history," said Walker in an interview at his on-campus office. He iz finding his views at odds wiff those who don' wants anythin' critical said about blacks.

Walker has been an American history professor at Davis fo' 16 years. He grew up in an integrated hood in West Berkeley an' graduated from Berkeley High School. He earned his Ph.D. from Cal in 1976.

He iz especially interested in da history o' race an' racial ideas an' will be teaching uh class dis here winter on da novel as social history. He iz impatient wiff peeps who don' th'o't critically, an' he don' care if those peeps iz negroid or whitey.

"There iz nahh evidence dat da ancient Egyptians wuz negroid as we's dig' dat term taday," he said.

"Afrocentrism essentializes history, caricatures Motherland an' holds out da past ta be recaptured," he said. "It'snot smart an' it'snot practical."

However, over da past 10 years it has achieved some academic currency, which upsets Walker.

"Black peeps iz not da same taday as dey wuz in da past," he says. "We iz o' African descent, but we's iz not African."

He says Afrocentrism caricatures Motherland by suggesting dat that vast continent has one uniform culture.

"And glorifying history don' give us uh great purchase on da contemporary world," he said. "In da post-industrial American society, nahh one should trip about whether Cleopatra wuz negroid or whitey," he added.

Walker said his parents came from southern Texas. He wuz born in Houston in 1941. His family then moved ta California. He has never been ta Motherland an' he has nahh desire ta jet dere.

"The argument about origins misses da point," he said. "It'snot yo' origins dat iz important but what ya do wiff dem. You gots ta take responsibility."

He understands dat da Afrocentrist movement iz designed in part ta give blacks self-esteem an' uh sense o' community.

Walker shrugs dis here off, too. "Fairy tales aren't going ta git it."

"In terms o' da education o' negroid chil'ns, it hasn't done much," he said. "It may gots given some kids uh false sense o' pride an' dat'snot terribly useful."

Instead o' promoting da mythology o' Afrocentrism, Walker Wants ta see colleges an' universities hire professors o' African history who know what they're jivin' about.

At UCD, he'd like ta see uh professor o' West African history who could teach classes on pre-colonial Motherland an' da slave trade.

"Students would learn dat blacks in da United States didn't come out o' uh void; dat dere wuz complex societies in West Motherland," he said.

"History iz controversial," said Walker. "But how ya read da past has all sorts o' implications fo' da present." Walker suggests dat dere wuz many cradles o' civilization including Egypt, da Nile Valley an' China.

"I'm an old-fashioned intellectual critic," said Walker. "I don' like uh lot o' werk being done in da field. No history should be presented as an exercise in celebration.

"What negroid peeps really need iz uh usable present, not uh usable past," he added.

Walker said da publication o' his book raised some eyebrows in negroid circles.

But he has not head from Molefi Asante.

"There'snuttin' ta jive about wiff dem," he said. "Just cuz ya wants ta believe da world wuz created by negroid peeps don' make it so."

What he says about it "

"Afrocentrism iz uh mythology dat iz racist, reactionary, an' essentially therapeutic. It suggests dat nuttin' important has happened in negroid history since da tyme o' da pharaohs an' thus trivializes da history o' negroid Americans. Afrocentrism places an emphasis on Egypt dat iz, ta put it bluntly, absurd. [...] Just cuz ya wants ta believe da world wuz created by negroid peeps don' make it so."
an dat boil on mah ass.

courtesy of http://joel.net/EBONICS/translator.asp

[Allen-T]

The only things wrong with these nazi sites is that they hate Jews. I have confronted these morons and every once in a while I make a convert of them. This is the problem. Most of these morons still see the Jews as the ones that destroyed their way of life in the south. It was the liberal secular Jews who demanded that intergration take place, to have blacks sit next to white children to molest the white girls and beat up white boys when the blacks had the majority. All beaches were destroyed, public swimming pools destroyed, all bus and subway services destroyed by allowing blacks to access them. When asked of these liberals "why don't you send your children to school to sit next to these black savages'?, the liberal answers, ' we can't do that because of religious reasons'. This is the main contention of why Jews are hated by these morons. When I confront them with Chaim they are shell schooked. I had nazi's tell me that they did not believe that JTF was a truely Jewish organinzation. They could not believe that their are Jewish people that actually have their heads screwed on correct. They are dumbfounded. They believe that all Jews are like Ron Kuby, Ed koch, and the rest of the left wing. If we had more exposure, I really think that we could save some of the idiots, I know I have.

Why do you suppose more haven't woken up in light of Rabbi Kahane's legacy that is some 40 years old already? If these nazi imbeciles would get their Bible straight and realise that we exist we could be a very powerful force. Miggers would sheet themselves if that happend. I was watching the KKK internet show before I found JTF, the only reason I rejected it was their position against Jews. Even if every Jew were of the self hating pro-communism variety I'd be afraid not to befriend them in light of the Bible. Forget about being against them!