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Offline White Israelite

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I was just reading about Bagot Glubb who trained the Transjordan military and was even appointed head of the Jordanian army ("Arab legion") during the 1948 war. I knew the British general public had always been anti-semitic and were responsible for this mess called "Palestine" today but I had no idea that they were actually involved in training the Jordanians and even had advisors and had a Lieutenant General as head of the Jordanian Army. What do you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bagot_Glubb


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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 08:32:46 PM »
Now the British are about to be destroyed by the Arabs.  Fitting. :::D
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 09:49:37 PM »
The Brits did everything possible to destroy Israel before it was born.  That is why the Irgun, Sternists and sometimes even the Haganah took up arms against them.  They imposed and enforced the White Paper.  They armed the Jordanians which made the American arms embargo a life threatening problem for Jews, since the Arabs had unlimited access to British arms.
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 09:54:15 PM »
The Brits did everything possible to destroy Israel before it was born.  That is why the Irgun, Sternists and sometimes even the Haganah took up arms against them.  They imposed and enforced the White Paper.  They armed the Jordanians which made the American arms embargo a life threatening problem for Jews, since the Arabs had unlimited access to British arms.

Correct, it was recorded by Derek Prince who was one of the greatest Zionist Christians ever lived in modern times.  Derek served in the British army during WW-2 and he lived in Jerusalem when Israel was born.  He personally witnessed British soldiers siding with the Arabs when the Arabs plundered and looted Jews living in the holy land.
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 10:03:50 PM »
The Brits did everything possible to destroy Israel before it was born.  That is why the Irgun, Sternists and sometimes even the Haganah took up arms against them.  They imposed and enforced the White Paper.  They armed the Jordanians which made the American arms embargo a life threatening problem for Jews, since the Arabs had unlimited access to British arms.

Correct, it was recorded by Derek Prince who was one of the greatest Zionist Christians ever lived in modern times.  Derek served in the British army during WW-2 and he lived in Jerusalem when Israel was born.  He personally witnessed British soldiers siding with the Arabs when the Arabs plundered and looted Jews living in the holy land.

They did much more than that.  They closed Israel down to Jews escaping from Hitler's death camps in Europe.  They put those Jews lucky enough to reach Israel into detainment camps in Cyprus.  To the extent I believe in hell I assume that most of the British officialdom from that era is having a hellish reunion as we speak.
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 09:53:32 AM »
Indeed, the British political goal was to limit Jewish population as much as possible, which meant barring immigration for Jewish refugees to "Palestine" while 6 million Jews were murdered in the holocaust.   The British thought that if the Jewish population was kept small enough, docile enough, defenseless (without a supply of weapons etc etc), the Jews would rely on the British to defend them from the Arabs. 

Simultaneously, the British felt that by arming the arabs to the teeth, elevating the nazi Mufti (co-architect with Eichmann of the german nazi final solution) to a position of power and political prominence in their society, encouraging their riots against Jews and doing minimal to nothing to stop them, and later training the Arab armed forces, British would maintain their presence as the overseer of the mandate, since the Arabs rely on them to administer order to society (arabs incapable of civilized political governance there, especially over Jews who want political independence for themselves).  The Arabs would also be dependent on British to arm and fund and train Arabs to have their way with Jewish infidels, while the Jews who are pummeled in pogroms and whose population is kept small by banning immigration while the Nazis murder off the rest of us, will be left with no choice but to beg Britain for protection against the Arabs that the British were helping to incite.

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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 10:32:18 AM »
Yep, this is correct. JTF reported on this nine or ten years ago.

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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 12:07:39 PM »
True even helped them with an airforce all unofficial of course. Israel had a great   Bible believing Commando helping them Col.Orde Wingate the Brits sent himto killed opening the Burma road   


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Palestine and the Special Night Squads

In 1936 Wingate was assigned to the British Mandate of Palestine to a staff office position and became an intelligence officer. From his arrival he saw the creation of a Jewish State in Palestine as being a religious duty toward the literal fulfillment of Christian prophecy and he immediately put himself into absolute alliance with Jewish political leaders.

Arab guerrillas had at the time of his arrival begun a campaign of attacks against both British mandate officials and Jewish communities, which became known as the Arab Revolt (of 1936-1939).

Wingate became politically involved with a number of Zionist leaders, eventually becoming an ardent supporter of Zionism, despite the fact that he was not Jewish.[23] He formulated the idea of raising small assault units of British-led Jewish commandos, heavily armed with grenades and light infantry small arms, to combat the Arab uprising. Wingate took his idea personally to Archibald Wavell, who was then a commander of British forces in Palestine. After Wavell gave his permission, Wingate convinced the Zionist Jewish Agency and the leadership of Haganah, the Jewish armed group.

In June 1938 the new British commander, Gen. Haining, gave his permission to create the Special Night Squads, armed groups formed of British and Haganah volunteers. The Jewish Agency helped pay salaries and other costs of the Haganah personnel.

Wingate trained, commanded and accompanied them in their patrols. The units frequently ambushed Arab saboteurs who attacked oil pipelines of the Iraq Petroleum Company, raiding border villages the attackers had used as bases. In these raids Wingate's men sometimes imposed severe collective punishments on the village inhabitants that were criticized by Zionist leaders as well as Wingate's British superiors. Wingate disliked Arabs, once shouting at Hagana fighters after a June 1938 attack on a village on the border between Israel and Lebanon, "I think you are all totally ignorant in your Ramat Yochanan [the training base for the Hagana] since you do not even know the elementary use of bayonets when attacking dirty Arabs: how can you can you put your left foot in front?"[24] But the brutal tactics proved effective in quelling the uprising, and Wingate was awarded the DSO in 1938.

However, his deepening direct political involvement with the Zionist cause and an incident where he spoke publicly in favour of formation of a Jewish state during his leave in Britain, caused his superiors in Palestine to remove him from command. He was so deeply associated with political causes in Palestine that his superiors considered him compromised as an intelligence officer in the country. He was promoting his own agenda rather than that of the army or the government.

In May 1939, he was transferred back to Britain. Wingate became a hero of the Yishuv (the Jewish Community), and was loved by leaders such as Zvi Brenner and Moshe Dayan who had trained under him, and who claimed that Wingate had "taught us everything we know."

Wingate's political attitudes toward Zionism were heavily influenced by his Plymouth Brethren religious views and belief in certain eschatological doctrines.
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 12:41:48 PM »
They understood Irgun as terrorists.
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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 01:16:28 PM »
both Palestine and Pakistani problem was supported by British. They were teaching us liberalism and secularism, today they are fighting to save nationalism in their own country , this is what bad karma does ;D

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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 01:23:08 PM »
After all the things the British have done to other countries - THEY DESERVE ISLAM!  >:(


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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 04:12:56 PM »
I wish Kahane would have targeted the British too in his speeches, I feel he under estimated them.

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Re: So the British helped the Arabs during the Israel 1948 war huh?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2010, 06:02:34 PM »
Now the British are about to be destroyed by the Arabs.  Fitting. :::D

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