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Is Hebrew a Canaanite dialect?
White Israelite:
So I was having some debates with people on paltalk in the middle east section and some are stating that Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect, is this true? Paleohebrew does look pretty similar to Phoenician.
Wikipedia has Hebrew listed as a Canaanite dialect but anyone can modify that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_dialects
If this is the case, what caused the Hebrews to pick up Canaanite dialect and what was the language spoken before this?
What's also strange is if Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect and the Palestinians And Lebanese claim to be the descendants of Canaanites, why do they not speak a Canaanite dialect and speak Arabic?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: White Israelite on March 17, 2010, 06:28:40 PM ---So I was having some debates with people on paltalk in the middle east section and some are stating that Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect, is this true? Paleohebrew does look pretty similar to Phoenician.
Wikipedia has Hebrew listed as a Canaanite dialect but anyone can modify that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_dialects
If this is the case, what caused the Hebrews to pick up Canaanite dialect and what was the language spoken before this?
What's also strange is if Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect and the Palestinians And Lebanese claim to be the descendants of Canaanites, why do they not speak a Canaanite dialect and speak Arabic?
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Interestingly, the entire field of linguistics and the entire understanding of Hebrew has been revolutionized by a recent finding of a Hebrew inscription dated to 10th century B.C.E. (First commonwealth, probably before the period of Bayit Rishon and during King David's reign), which pushes the origin of the Hebrew language back literally hundreds of years before the scholars previously thought. Literally, ALL of the scholars were wrong about the age of Hebrew language. And dating a pottery inscription to 10th century B.C.E. means the language is even older than that because it had to be existing as a sophisticated and known system earlier to produce this finding where this person (who owned the pottery) knew the language and expressed it as such.
So, any research that does not take into account this new reality (As of January 2010), cannot be relied upon.
This is a must-read for any person of faith (and really any person, especially any Jew).
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107183037.htm
It also proves that the Kingdom of Israel existed at that time, which scholars also doubted.
Rubystars:
A lot of secular scholars are doing everything they can to discredit the Exodus story and say that the Jews never had their heroic victories of the Bible. Their motivation is not true scientific inquiry but hatred of the Bible and hatred of Jewish people.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Rubystars on March 17, 2010, 11:27:15 PM ---A lot of secular scholars are doing everything they can to discredit the Exodus story and say that the Jews never had their heroic victories of the Bible. Their motivation is not true scientific inquiry but hatred of the Bible and hatred of Jewish people.
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There is no way that they can effect the emunah of the Jewish people. There is enough scientific and archeological evidence of much of the Torah to satisfy the nefesh behami {animal soul}. There will never be any evidence of the Exodus and I really don't care whether there is or not. The Torah itself says that the Israelites ate Man from heaven, did not need to go to the bathroom, their clothes did not wear out, nor did their shoes. I would not expect any artifacts to prove that they spent 40 years in the desert.
There is ample historic evidence of the two Temples.
Much of science is a sham these days. Every study seems to have political implications. Because of the human yetzer hara we invent things to believe which will soothe our guilty feelings for abandoning Hashem.
muman613:
http://www.aish.com/jw/j/48961251.html
The world of archeology is rocked by evidence of King David's palace unearthed in Jerusalem.
How Jewish is Jerusalem?
You might think that's a silly question, but in the world of academia, revisionist history and even biblical archaeology, scholars have cast the shadow of doubt over Judaism's intrinsic connection to Jerusalem. The Moslem Waqf, the religious authority that administers the Temple Mount -- the site of Judaism's First and Second Temples -- has been claiming for years that there was never a temple there. But the idea that Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and Jerusalem its holy capital has been under attack from far more reputable sources in recent decades as well.
For a growing number of academics and intellectuals, King David and his united kingdom of Judah and Israel, which has served for 3,000 years as an integral symbol of the Jewish nation, is simply a piece of fiction. The biblical account of history has been dismissed as unreliable by a cadre of scholars, some of whom have an overtly political agenda, arguing that the traditional account was resurrected by the Zionists to justify dispossessing Palestinian Arabs. The most outspoken of these is Keith Whitelam of the Copenhagen School which promotes an agenda of "biblical minimalism," whose best-known work is The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History.
Finkelstein claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.
Even in Israel, this new school has found its voice. Israel Finkelstein, chairman of Tel Aviv University's Department of Archaeology, began championing a theory several years ago that the biblical accounts of Jerusalem as the seat of a powerful, unified monarchy under the rule of David and Solomon are essentially false. The scientific methods for his assumptions, called a "lower dating" which essentially pushes archaeological evidence into a later century and thus erases all evidence of a Davidic monarchy, were laughed off by traditional archaeologists. But his book, The Bible Unearthed, wound up on the New York Times' best-seller list and he became the darling of a sympathetic media. He concluded that David and Solomon, if they existed at all, were merely "hill-country chieftains" and Jerusalem a poor, small tribal village. He claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.
Looking in the Wrong Place
But the debunkers of Jewish biblical history got some bad news recently, when a spunky, dedicated archaeologist began her latest dig. Dr. Eilat Mazar, world authority on Jerusalem's past, has taken King David out of the pages of the Bible and put him back into living history. Mazar's latest excavation in the City of David, in the southern shadow of the Temple Mount, has shaken up the archaeological world. For lying undisturbed for over 3,000 years is a massive building which Mazar believes is King David's palace.
For Mazar, 48, one of the world's leading authorities on the archaeology of ancient Jerusalem and head archaeologist of the Shalem Center Institute of Archaeology, the discovery was the culmination of years of effort and solid speculation. From the time she was a teenager, she had her nose in archaeology literature, and worked closely with her grandfather, renowned archaeologist Benjamin Mazar, who conducted the southern wall excavations next to the Western Wall. She holds a doctorate in archaeology from Hebrew University, is author of The Complete Guide to the Temple Mount Excavations, and in the 1970s and '80s worked on the digs supervised by Yigal Shilo in the City of David. The significant discoveries made then, including a huge wall called the "stepped-stone structure" -- which Shilo believed was a retaining wall for David's royal palace or part of the Jebusite fortress he conquered -- ignited Mazar to continue to look for the prize: David's palace itself.
Some biblical scholars gave up looking for the palace because, according to Mazar, they were looking in the wrong place. Scholars searched for remains of the palace within the walls of the ancient Jebusite city that David conquered and called Ir David (City of David). This city, while heavily fortified with both natural and man-made boundaries, was also very small, just nine acres in size. When no evidence of such a majestic palace as the Bible describes was found there, the next step was to claim that David's monarchy never really existed.
But Mazar always suspected that the palace was outside the original city, and cites the Bible to prove it. When the Philistines heard that David had been anointed, they went on the attack to apprehend him. This occurred after he conquered the Fortress of Zion, which was the actual nucleus of the city, and built his palace. The Bible says that David heard about it and "descended to the fortress," (2-Samuel 5:17), implying that he went down from his palace, which was higher up on the mountain than the citadel/city.
Mazar told Aish.com: "I always asked myself: Down from where? It must have been from his palace on top of the hill, outside the original Jebusite city."
Mazar says she was confident in her assessment of where the palace would be. What she discovered was a section of massive wall running about 100 feet from west to east along the length of the excavation (underneath what until this summer was the Ir David Visitors Center), and ending with a right-angle corner that turns south and implies a very large building.
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