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Is Hebrew a Canaanite dialect?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
Muman, I already read that same passage, and it says nothing about what the Hebrew culture was, so how can it be saying it's a step down? I think you read that into it.
It's merely describing what the canaanite culture consisted of because it's a study of the canaanites, not the Hebrews. Did you think they lived without a culture? (somehow?)
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on March 18, 2010, 06:45:32 PM ---And for further research into the ancient Middle East, focusing in particular on ancient Canaan and ancient Phoenicia*, here is another valuable source for study:
http://phoenicia.org/
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I pretty sure I've been to this site before. Very biased.
So what don't you like about Larue's site? Anything to say?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on March 18, 2010, 06:51:06 PM ---Muman, I already read that same passage, and it says nothing about what the Hebrew culture was, so how can it be saying it's a step down? I think you read that into it.
It's merely describing what the canaanite culture consisted of because it's a study of the canaanites, not the Hebrews. Did you think they lived without a culture? (somehow?)
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On the basis of archaeological study, it is surmised that three kinds of Hebrew settlements were developed.12 Villages were built on abandoned tells or in previously unoccupied areas. Where Canaanite cities had been destroyed, new dwellings were constructed amid the ruins. In some instances, by mutual agreement, Hebrews settled more or less peacefully among the Canaanites (Josh. 9:3-7). By comparison with Canaanite dwellings, Hebrew houses were poorly built. In new villages little attention was given to town planning and homes were constructed wherever the owner desired. Defensive walls were relatively weak and crudely composed, revealing limited mastery of structural engineering principles. Hebrew pottery, in contrast to well levigated, well fired Canaanite ware, appears quite poorly made. Some Hebrews ventured into Canaanite agricultural and commercial pursuits, others continued to raise flocks and herds (I Sam. 17:15, 34; 25:2). Despite efforts of a conservative element, fiercely loyal to old tribal ways, Canaanite cultural patterns were gradually assimilated. The unsettled nature of the times is revealed by the numerous destroyed layers from the thirteenth to eleventh centuries found in some excavations.
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Kahane-Was-Right BT:
Well now you quoted something different.
Maybe it's true. We had the truth of G-d (and military prowess). They had good building skills (and perhaps other materialistic skills) and evil beliefs/behaviors. Not sure I see a problem there. It's no contest.
In any case, how does he know what are canaanite structures and what are Hebrew? Archaeologists have a problem with their dating system and half the time they cannot even agree on when the Israelites showed up.
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: "...why don't you endorse it?"
Answer: I have read about five chapters of this text, which was authored some years ago and is on the required reading list of at least one American university course study. To my knowledge, the professor/author is not a Jew, and is writing from a purely "academic" perspective; meaning that the scientific method must account for all of its research and conclusions. Therefore, the conclusions offered and the research on which they are based are entirely the intellectual property of the author. The scientific method is an ongoing process, as increasing archaeological discoveries (ex: King David's Palace discovered this year) add clarification and perspective to what was previously known, and tend to eventually make obsolete today's "standard knowledge". Personally, I have read the entire Torah. I endorse it, and I accept it as the truthful and accurate history -- of both the Jewish people, as well as of the other nations and peoples of the ancient Middle East. Only an in depth study of the written Torah, together with the oral Torah, can provide to the reader unparalleled insights into the life, customs, and culture of the entire ancient world, from the perspective of brilliant Torah true Jews who were eye witnesses to the historic periods in question. The facts of history have been preserved for us unaltered, passed down generation to generation by the Jewish people.
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