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Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« on: May 06, 2010, 11:18:55 AM »
This story is another sickening one. It is very sad to see America crumbling so quickly. When I was young I felt that America was strong, secure, and had a future. Today I look at the poor excuse of America and my mother wonders how it got so bad so quickly. America today is nothing but a shell of what it was 20 years ago. Stories like this one would not have ever been published because such spinelessness would never have been countenanced.



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/06/california-students-sent-home-wearing-flags-cinco-mayo/

California Students Sent Home for Wearing U.S. Flags on Cinco de Mayo

Administrators at a California high school sent five students home on Wednesday after they refused to remove their American flag T-shirts and bandannas -- garments the school officials deemed "incendiary" on Cinco de Mayo.

Administrators at a California high school sent five students home on Wednesday after they refused to remove their American flag T-shirts and bandannas -- garments the school officials deemed "incendiary" on Cinco de Mayo.

The five teens were sitting at a table outside Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Calif., on Wednesday morning when Assistant Principal Miguel Rodriguez asked two of them to remove their American flag bandannas, the Morgan Hill Times reported. The boys told the newspaper they complied, but were asked to accompany Rodriguez to the principal's office.

The five students -- Daniel Galli, Austin Carvalho, Matt Dariano, Dominic Maciel and Clayton Howard -- were then told they must turn their T-shirts inside-out or be sent home, though it would not be considered a suspension. Rodriguez told the students he did not want any fights to break out between Mexican-American students celebrating their heritage and those wearing American flags.

"They said we were starting a fight," Dariano told the newspaper. "We were fuel to the fire."

The boys told Rodriguez and Principal Nick Boden that turning their shirts inside-out was disrespectful, so their parents decided to take them home, the newspaper reports.

"I just couldn't believe it," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mother, told the newspaper. "I'm an open-minded parent, but it's got to be on both sides. It can't be five kids singled out."

Galli told NBC Bay Area, "They said we could wear it on any other day, but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it."

In a statement released on Wednesday, the Morgan Hill Unified School District said it did not agree with the school's actions.

"In an attempt to foster a spirit of cultural awareness and maintain a safe and supportive school environment, the Live Oak High School administration took certain actions earlier today," the statement read. "The district does not concur with the Live Oak High School administration's interpretation of either board or district policy related to these actions."

Attempts to reach school officials early Thursday were not successful. A secretary told the Morgan Hill Times that Boden and Rodriguez were unavailable for comment on Wednesday.

According to its website, Live Oak High School is a 1,300-student institution in the southern part of Santa Clara County, with most students residing in the nearby cities of Morgan Hill and San Jose.

"The student population reflects the rich ethnic and socioeconomic diversity of the community," the website reads.

More than 100 students were spotted wearing the colors of the Mexican flag -- red, white and green -- as they left school, including some who had the flag painted on their faces or arms, the Morgan Hill times reported.

While bandannas of any color are banned at the school, its dress code policy does not contain references to American flags.

"However, any clothing or decoration which detracts from the learning environment is prohibited," the policy reads. "The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action."

Freshman Laura Ponce, who had a Mexican flag painted on her face and chest, told the Morgan Hill Times that Cinco de Mayo is the "only day" Mexican-American students can show their national pride.

"There was a lot of drama going on today," Ponce told the newspaper.

Some other Mexican-American students reportedly said their flags were taken away or asked to be put away, but no other students were sent home on Wednesday.

Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California-Los Angeles, said the students are protected under California Education Code 48950, which prohibits schools from enforcing a rule subjecting a high school student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct, that when engaged outside of campus, is protected by the First Amendment.

If the school could point to previous incidents sparked by students who wore garments with American flags, they could argue that the flag is likely to lead to "substantial disruption," Volokh said.

"If, for example, there had been fights over similar things at past events, if there had been specific threats made," he said. "But if [school officials] just say, 'Well, we think it might be offensive to people,' that's generally speaking not enough."

Volokh said the students and their parents likely have a winning case on their hands if they decide to take the matter to court.

"Oh yes, it's almost open and shut," he said.

Lis Wiehl, a former federal prosecutor and a Fox News legal analyst, said the incident appears to a "blatant" violation of the students' First Amendment right to free speech. She noted that inciting violence is an exception to a First Amendment legal defense, but Wiehl said she saw no indications that the students provoked anyone.

"Unless I'm missing something, this seems like a blatant violation of the First Amendment," said Wiehl, adding that uniforms are not required at the public school. "And they're wearing, of all horrific things, the American flag."

FoxNews.com's Joshua Rhett Miller contributed to this report.

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Re: Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 11:41:22 AM »
Wow you beat me to it of this story. While I don't live in the U.S, I find this aweful that people can't express their love for their country because they might offend otheres WHO LIVE IN AMERICA. I mean jeez. You guys need to do something about this, your Country is hurting right now.

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Re: Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 11:41:55 AM »
The Mexican students must be a very violent lot if the school administration was worried such a small thing would cause a fight.

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Re: Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 01:05:11 PM »
I did some research, and found the principal's contact information.  His name is Nicholas Boden.  Here is his contact information:

http://liveoakhs.ca.campusgrid.net/home/About+Live+Oak/Principal%27s+Message

I recommend we write to him and let him have it.  Here's what I wrote to him:

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Dear Mr. Boden:

I am outraged to learn that several students in Live Oak High School were kicked off campus for wearing American flag t-shirts and bandanas on Cinco De Mayo.

According to this article, your vice principal asked some students to turn their American flag shirts inside out, and to remove their American flag bandanas.

Now can you explain to me why wearing a shirt with an American flag, in the United States of America is incendiary?  Have you and your staff ever stopped to wonder what your Mexican students are even doing in this country if they find the site of an American flag so offensive?  Also, why should you or your staff care if the Mexican students find the sight of an American flag offensive?  They're getting free public education, and a whole bunch of other tax payer funded goodies, so don't you think they should at least try to veil their contempt for America, at least while they're in your school?

On another note, why is your school even celebrating Cinco De Mayo anyway?  I thought the purpose of school was to teach children reading writing and arithmetic.  Why are you wasting taxpayer dollars and man hours to celebrate a foreign holiday?  Can't your Mexican students celebrate this on their own time?

Sincerely,

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Also, I would be very interested in seeing what others write to this principal.

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Re: Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 01:07:26 PM »
I would not be taking my flag off for anything!  More people are standing up for Patriotism and Freedom.  The Dark Under Belly of Evil has been exposed, It cannot Hide any longer.

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Re: Shameful American Schools Ashamed of American Flag
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 02:20:43 PM »
Lisa, very well said.  There is something seriously wrong with the idea that Americans need to hide their love for their nation.  There is something wrong with the idea that an American flag offends people.  I bet most Mexican kids would not be offended by the American flag.
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