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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2010, 04:32:21 PM »
Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.

Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.

I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.

I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...

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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2010, 04:32:49 PM »
Skkie sympathizes with Nazi Germany as you can see from his posts about Dresden. Ben and JewishAmericanPatriot support Neo-Nazis. Rubystars is a good person and is definitely not a Nazi, but I've never heard her claim to be a "white nationalist." WNs are Nazis, and we should not have to be nice to them on the forum.

EXCUSE ME? I do NOT "support neonazis", what the hell is wrong with some of the people on this forum? For your information I was studying under Rabbi Meir Kahane, HY"D in the 1970s probably before some of you were even BORN!

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You support the Council of Conservative Citizens.

I agree with SOME of their views regarding blacks and whites, but then you could say that about a lot of groups!
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2010, 04:33:07 PM »
Paulette is right.  You all look like weak people. I am 100% pro-white. I guess that makes me a Nazi as well??  Paulette never put Chaim down, this has to do with banning people for no reason.

Ron, you are a young man---learn your place.  Paulette and I talked on the telephone with Chaim, he wants no bans anymore.  If you cannot debate these people, then move on to a forum where they can make fun of your weakness, because you are making people that want to debate these people look weak.  

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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2010, 04:36:35 PM »
Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?

Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...

What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?

I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2010, 04:36:55 PM »
Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.

Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.

I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.

I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...



I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2010, 04:38:54 PM »
Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?

Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...

What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?

I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?



According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)

White people would be the first category.
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2010, 04:38:58 PM »
Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.

Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.

I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.

I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...



I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.

And your point is? Are you saying that because I dont support white nationals I am a leftist... If you are saying that please do so directly so that I don't mistake what you are saying.

I am a proud Jew who doesn't trust white nationalists. If you don't like that, tough for you JAP..

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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2010, 04:39:18 PM »
Paulette is right.  You all look like weak people. I am 100% pro-white. I guess that makes me a Nazi as well??  Paulette never put Chaim down, this has to do with banning people for no reason.

Ron, you are a young man---learn your place.  Paulette and I talked on the telephone with Chaim, he wants no bans anymore.  If you cannot debate these people, then move on to a forum where they can make fun of your weakness, because you are making people that want to debate these people look weak.  

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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2010, 04:39:34 PM »
Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?

Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...

What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?

I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?



According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)

White people would be the first category.

So by your definition the arabs are white too... Am I correct?

By Jewish belief there is one branch of man, all descended from Noach... Some, such as Cham and Cush are darker skinned... Some such as Essau are lighter skinned. Abrahams arab son Ishmael is, according to Torah, a close relative of Yitzak, the son of Hagar, his egyptian maid...

Both Essau {the roman white race} and Ishmael {the arab race} are believed to fight against Israel and Israel will defeat it...

Maybe that is what you should study instead of neo-nazi literature and such...


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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2010, 04:39:55 PM »
Jews are the ones who have to worry about the Jews. History has shown that the non-Jew is usually deaf, dumb, and blind, or actively persecuting us. I do not feel a real need to support a 'white' nation, it is not the nation for the Jew, as our religion teaches a Jew belongs in his own land, a land where we are not exposed to the culture of the nations.

Yes, I respect the white culture, and I do not belittle it. But I know in my gut that this is not where a Jew belongs. And if this is what the Nazis wanted us to understand, that a Jew should have his own country, and we should be strong against the negative influences of the nations, be it Greek Hellenish, Roman republicanism and democracy, mass media modern internet culture or whatever.

I just know that the so-called white people in every nation that my ancestors fled from were downright evil to the Jewish populations, Jews who contributed for centuries to European science, medicine, and finance. Am I angry about it... Not so much now, there are jew haters who are much more vocal and dangerous today... But I will not give my support to anyone who holds ideas that Jews are in control of too much, hold any Jewish conspiracy theories, or believes that America should be 'white' by their definition of what 'white' is.

I still think that the reason my ancestors fled Ukraine and Poland at the turn of the 20th century was because America was a place where all cultures could work for a better future. Unfortunately today we don't see this with many immigrants, but I do believe that many do come here with a American dream of being successful. I have seen Indians and Chinese nationals working hard on making it in America...



I mean no disrespect...but except for the one sentence above that is highlighted by me, I have heard that exact, same statement from leftist Jews.

And your point is? Are you saying that because I dont support white nationals I am a leftist... If you are saying that please do so directly so that I don't mistake what you are saying.

I am a proud Jew who doesn't trust white nationalists. If you don't like that, tough for you JAP..



I'm not saying anything other than the fact that I have heard that basic same statement from leftist Jews.
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2010, 04:41:30 PM »
Has anyone ever defined what 'White' is?

Is there a genetic test you can take which will determine if you are white? I would like to see it...

What will happen to non-Whites in such a state? Will they be made into dhimmis?

I don't understand what is a white? There are so many peoples with different genetic traits... Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Swedes, Englishmen, which of them is the real 'white'?



According to traditional scientific delineations, there are three main races of mankind: Caucasoid (Whites), Negroid (black Africans) and Mongoloid (Asians.)

White people would be the first category.

So by your definition the arabs are white too... Am I correct?



Arabs, like Jews, are Shemites, descended from Shem. I don't know what they are other than that, they are a sub-race of one of the main three.
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2010, 04:46:55 PM »
It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.

I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.

What do you consider an anti-semitic slur? Even our own good members use the K-word... Why shouldn't an antisemite also use the word?


There's the difference when a Jew calls a self-hating Jew a kike because they're doing out of love for their people. Obviously when a nazi or muslim uses it they're doing it out of hatred for Jews as a whole.
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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 04:49:15 PM »
Americankahanist, Ron Ben Michael does not have the power to ban anyone.  All Ron is saying is that he showed Chaim the thread where Skkie defended the so-called German civilians during World War II.  It looks like Chaim then banned him.  Therefore you may want to just send Chaim a private message, rather than calling everyone here "weak." 

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Re: Chaim: Can you please address this?
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2010, 04:49:36 PM »
It depends on what you define a white nationalist as. If you consider their movement to be of the David Duke variety, then they're neo-nazis. If you consider white nationalists to simply be people who want to maintain the white Judeo-Christian identity of America, then they aren't. I guess it's just how you define it.

I don't see much of the point of banning people for having other views. Idiots or nazis usually make themselves look stupid anyways. Ban them if they cause disruptions like spamming or use racist/anti-Semitic slurs.

What do you consider an anti-semitic slur? Even our own good members use the K-word... Why shouldn't an antisemite also use the word?


There's the difference when a Jew calls a self-hating Jew a kike because they're doing out of love for their people. Obviously when a nazi or muslim uses it they're doing it out of hatred for Jews as a whole.

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