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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2010, 05:27:39 PM »
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2010, 05:50:04 PM »
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

Who or what do you refer to?
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2010, 05:54:09 PM »
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

I agree


I refer to JewishAmericanPatriots comment that women should not be allowed to vote... I think that if we are expecting to live in a democracy we should allow all who are governed to vote. We should not created a government imposed class system {citizens vs sub-citizens}... This kind of arrangement was discussed in Orwells novel 1984 where there were three government imposed classes, the Inner party, the Outer party, and the Proles...

In a democracy it is required that all who are governed get to vote. Denying people the right to vote in a democracy is simply hypocrisy..
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2010, 05:55:52 PM »
I agree completely. In fact my daughters and I were discussing this very issue earlier today. I'm old enough to remember the tail-end of "how things used to be", and the black crime rate was MUCH lower, as was the black promiscuity rate.

Yes I think it was better for everyone concerned when blacks were kept separate.

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We can thank LBJ and his "Great Society" for all the drek we see going on now! He wanted to lock in the black vote for decades to come by making them financially dependent on the government. Looks like it worked! Now we have 4 generations on welfare, and of course they will keep voting for whoever gives them the handouts.

It's really disgusting. I never forget that the money they are taking is money earned by hard working Americans and stolen to give to them.

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The ancient Romans learned the same technique, which is why they gave panem et circenses (bread and circuses) to the idle mobs who had moved into Rome. As long as they kept them fed and entertained (and didn't make them work), they got their votes.

I agree with you on welfare recipients not being able to vote but I disagree about women. Women must be able to vote in order to get laws passed to help women that protect them to some degree from domestic abuse, etc. It also makes no sense to contribute to society and make up more than half of society but to have no say in who runs that society.

If blacks weren't being manipulated by the socialists I'm not sure how they would end up voting. I do think you should at least be able to read to be able to vote though and many blacks are functionally illiterate.

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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2010, 06:24:40 PM »
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2010, 06:34:24 PM »
actually this flag is only three seven with a shared base.it is to oppose the 666 (the number of the beast) it is had nothing to do with swastika.and by the way.mpost of the boers are rabid supporters of israel.

Hmmm, I'd believe you if that flag in the photo wasn't also seen with a bunch of people giving the Nazi salute.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2010, 06:48:57 PM »
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.

Women outnumber men, so it really doesn't add up, because there are not equal numbers of men and women. Plus I think men can be emotionally manipulated as well, although in different ways. Many men in Nazi Germany had their nationalistic feelings manipulated and they became Nazis.

A long time ago it made more sense than it does today not to allow women to vote because women had a very different domain than men. They weren't , to a large degree, involved in politics or public life. Their domain was the home, the family business, raising children, etc. There is nothing wrong with that lifestyle, but women today are also very involved in public life and no matter what lifestyle they lead, they are directly affected by good or bad decisions just as the men are.

I will not let someone take my rights away to have a say in what goes on in this country without a fight. 

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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2010, 07:09:15 PM »
The reason I said what I did about women (even though I am a woman myself) is because most women tend to vote with their emotions, just like most blacks do. It was young, white, easily impressionable women who voted in large numbers for Obama, and who usually vote in large numbers for Democrats.

My mom used to say that giving women the right to vote in many cases simply gave the woman's husband a second vote, since spouses usually vote the same way. And if they don't vote the same way, they just cancel each others' votes out.

Women outnumber men, so it really doesn't add up, because there are not equal numbers of men and women. Plus I think men can be emotionally manipulated as well, although in different ways. Many men in Nazi Germany had their nationalistic feelings manipulated and they became Nazis.

A long time ago it made more sense than it does today not to allow women to vote because women had a very different domain than men. They weren't , to a large degree, involved in politics or public life. Their domain was the home, the family business, raising children, etc. There is nothing wrong with that lifestyle, but women today are also very involved in public life and no matter what lifestyle they lead, they are directly affected by good or bad decisions just as the men are.

I will not let someone take my rights away to have a say in what goes on in this country without a fight. 

Oh, I agree about women like us being able to vote in THIS day and age! The main reason I even got involved in politics years ago, and why I vote, is to balance out one of the liberal, braindead females! :)

Years ago, the way I see it, (conservative) women didn't need to vote because the country wasn't as screwed up as it is now. My grandmother was married the year women got the right to vote (1920), yet she never voted because (she said) that voting "is just for rich medigan (non-Italian; WASP) women with nothing better to do" (grandmom disliked suffraggettes; she said they wanted "the right to work outside the home", meanwhile, Italian immigrant women like her were working three jobs already!)
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2010, 07:10:17 PM »
Oy vey what meshuganah. :'(

Who or what do you refer to?

I'm thinking of how chaotic and crazy South Africa is.  Someone said this about the whites there, "When they tried to flee South Africa, the ANC confiscated their bank accounts and no countries would accept their passports. ".  I know if I lived in SA I would simply want to leave [I don't understand why anyone not from Africa would want to live there in the 1st place], but it seems such action is prevented by the powers that be.  I think violence would be my course of action, I know I may not succeed in freeing myself, but I would make the consumption of my flesh and efforts come at such a high cost of my enemies blood that most would wince at the mere thought of paying the price tag on my particular demographic. -- I'd hate to be in that situation, I really don't know what I would have to do or what options I would have with my life; how could my life have meaning or quality?  Maccabee up and pray for the best.
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I don't know about taking away the ability to vote from some people in this country.  It's worth a thought, going back to how the founders of this country felt; I am not the son of a prophet, I can't see how things would turn out.  It may not be the thing to do, but it is a topic that should surely be discussed freely [it should not be taboo].

Something I do think about a lot of the time is this: if there is "no taxation with out representation" should there also be "no representation without taxation"?  Should people who do not contribute to the financial workings of the country have power over those that do?  50% of this country pays taxes, the other half does not.

[its a bit of a tangent, sorry]  Should the derelicts who sit outside my apartment in great numbers sipping giant cans of malt liquor each day starting at noon while smoking cigarettes, marijuana and other drugs and eating a diet of junk food while buying expensive clothes and sneakers while not working for a living have equal say how the government operates and what its goals are as a person who works hard to get a solid education seeking the opportunity to give back to society and be productive hoping to carve a notch out of life for them and their families?  Why should people who take care of their health pay health care for people like I describe above?  Why should a woman who has 5 children out of wedlock who manipulates the altruism which exists in many decent people be able to live like a parasite off people who plan a family which will consist of less members based upon what is affordable to them [why should a working person's family be smaller than a mooch?]?

Does "lazy" deserve equal say to "hard working"?  

I don't know the answers to these questions.

Sometimes I feel that people who give nothing to society should get nothing from society, it seems such a simply and basic axiom at times.  

I often find myself disliking democracy.  When I move to Israel, God willing, it is my hope that a Sanhedrin of "Solomonic" wisdom comes to fruit and replaces mob rule [I believe in G-d, Torah, Tanakh, and Talmud; I trust one day my hope will be fulfilled] [I always enjoy watching clips of Rabbi Kahane saying, "Judaism does not equal Thomas Jefferson".]. -- In America, at times, I think I would be happy to give up my right to vote if it canceled two derelict votes.

I could go on, but I think I've rambled far too long as it is.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2010, 07:14:57 AM »
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2010, 07:26:13 AM »
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?

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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2010, 07:27:09 AM »
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2010, 07:33:45 AM »
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.

Well, the amendments are part of the document.

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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2010, 07:42:54 AM »
guys what is this talking about the right to vote.the united states constitution is very clear: only wfree white men should be able to vote.and after some amendments women are also entitled to vote so only free whites should be able to vote.

The Constitution includes its amendments.   The America authors of the Constitution included that as part of the Constitution - the possibility for amendments.

But what does the American constitution have to do with South Africa?
we changed the subject a ling time ago to the right of vote in the us.

Well, the amendments are part of the document.
yes but the will of the founders is very clear in the issue.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2010, 08:01:58 AM »
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2010, 08:04:45 AM »
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2010, 08:08:10 AM »
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.

I agree. And I do.

One FACT that cannot be ignored: whenever whites are removed from the equation, blacks descend into savagery. This happened in Haiti in 1804, it happened in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe after 1980, and has been happening in South Africa since 1994. It is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history.

This is why, if I could go back in history, I would implore whites to AVOID the entire continent of Africa. Do not go there for ANY reason. With all due respect to our Christian friends, I fear that Christian missionaries were probably partly to blame for the black plague we have. They wanted to save the souls of the black Africans, and so as whites began colonizing those areas, missionaries went in, too.

In fact one justification for slavery in the US South was the idea that the slaves were better off here than in Africa because they had been given Christianity.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2010, 08:13:08 AM »
White Afrikaners are hated by the ruling blacks, and are being murdered by them daily, and while some say they should "just leave", the problem is, other countries won't take them (I don't know why, but preference, at least in the US, is given to non-whites). There is a slim possibility that they may be able to go to Holland since they are of Dutch ancestry way back in their lineage, but even that is iffy.

They can come to the US only if they have a relative here or if someone sponsors them.

Does any of this sound even remotely familiar to the  German Jewish situation during WW2?
yes'and not just remotley.we need should fight this schvartza plague whenever we found one.

I agree. And I do.

One FACT that cannot be ignored: whenever whites are removed from the equation, blacks descend into savagery. This happened in Haiti in 1804, it happened in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe after 1980, and has been happening in South Africa since 1994. It is a pattern that repeats itself throughout history.

This is why, if I could go back in history, I would implore whites to AVOID the entire continent of Africa. Do not go there for ANY reason. With all due respect to our Christian friends, I fear that Christian missionaries were probably partly to blame for the black plague we have. They wanted to save the souls of the black Africans, and so as whites began colonizing those areas, missionaries went in, too.

In fact one justification for slavery in the US South was the idea that the slaves were better off here than in Africa because they had been given Christianity.
i agree.if I will have the abillity to go back in time i would go the the 1970s and implore the south african government to test the nuclear weapons on cairo or kinshasa.
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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2010, 12:05:36 PM »

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i agree.if I will have the abillity to go back in time i would go the the 1970s and implore the south african government to test the nuclear weapons on cairo or kinshasa.
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Kinshasa is the capital of Congo (then called Zaire) and was led by Mobutu Sese Seko at that time. His government was not anti-Apartheid and had allied with South Africa against communism. So using a nuclear weapon against an allied city would not be a wise move. Other blacks allied with South Africa were the UNITA rebel movement in Angola led by Jonas Savimbi and Frelimo rebel movement in Mozambique. Also the Zulu movment Inkatha in South Africa was allied with the whites (their party is pro-Israel and their leader Zulu Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi has visited Israel before to express total support for the Jewish state). Had the white South Africans not been so irrationally greedy and granted the Zulus the deepwater port of Richards Bay for their Kwazulu homeland (rather than a polka dot state), the current dire situation in South Africa would not exist.

Finally I think its better to totally seperate and have your own homeland than have supremacy over others. I believe this applies to South Africa and USA. Segregation in both countries gave way to Integration and all the negro problems that resulted. Seperation would have been far better and in 2010 there is no point reminiscing about the failed policy of segregation and looking at it with rose tinted glasses. This is why Israel should do what Rabbi Meir Kahane said and expel all Arabs. Israel should also re-establish biblical Israel and expel the mussie rats from the Nile to the Euphrates too  :dance:

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Re: Jewish activist in Israel urges support of the Afrikaner struggle
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2010, 02:55:41 PM »
I have been to South Africa and it is a scary place. Recently I read some interesting information.
These numbers may be a little off but they show the trend. Between 1979 and 1994 @7000 blacks were killed
in South Africa. Many were blacks killed by other blacks in internecine disputes as well as those killed, often in combat with government forces. Now South Africa experiences 20,000+ murders a year. 1 in 2 women can expect to raped at least once in her life (rape insurance is available!). Nelson Mandella was imprisoned for a foiled attempt to blow up a train station at rush hour in 1964. A fact that I never saw mentioned in the main stream US media.

The issue is not that some white South Africans may be racists. Living under the conditions they they currently endure,
why is that somehow surprising? The issue is a population of white people is being exterminated and this horrendous situation is being ignored by western media. Occasionally, a story may surface in the British press, but it is rare and usually
involves a British victim.

So just remember, today it is South Africa where a non white population which utilizes grievances from the past to justify
the mass murder of the former dominant white population. Might this be the late great United States of America
at some future date? Give it some thought and do not let flags and right arm salutes cloud your assessment of what is taking place now and what could take place in the future.

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2010, 03:41:36 PM »
I'm glad that someone is speaking up for the whites in South Africa.

90 a day are murdered. :'(
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2010, 04:04:53 PM »
Just one thing. The AWB is a neo-Nazi movement. That is just one Afrikaaner organisation. There are many Right-wing Afrikaans organisations who have nothing to do with Nazis. For example the Orania movement. They are white speratists who are trying to create an all white homeland in the west of South Africa. Soc an we please stop demonising all Afrikaaners as AWB neo-Nazis? Thanks.

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« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2010, 08:08:59 AM »
I'm glad that someone is speaking up for the whites in South Africa.

90 a day are murdered. :'(
maybe even more.people are probably afraid to inform the police beacuse of the racist anc government. I HATE ANC!
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