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Re: Saudi treats murderers displays bodies
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2007, 10:19:43 PM »
Very good RT.  I have that book sitting on my...oops my friend Donnie has borrowed it.  Daniel Pipes is too a member of the CFR.  One has to be invited to be a member.  Of course not all members are of this "elitist" order and very few actually get chosen to be accepted into the inner circle.  Yes they are all connected some place.  If you look at the CFR - Trilateral Membership roster you will see that a few of them (which are subsequently the top members) are also members of the Bilderberg Group.  This group has members that are from the British Round Table Group founded by Cecil Rhodes and/or the British Fabian Society.  In Europe this group has members that are found in the White/Black Nobility and the Council of Rome.  In America CFR, Skull and Bones Society.  You will too find out that Jimmy Carter and even Bill Clinton were chosen....by the Bilderberg Group...("A Choice not an Echo" by Phyllis Schofly for one example..)

There are many "useful idiots" as well, mainly of the Left that support their front groups via activist lobby groups for ACLU, NAACP, Rand, Tavistock and many others.  Some are just planted establishment frauds like Ghorge Bush and Daniel Pipes....in my honest opinion.   It is a very big elitist fraud my friend... 

You stated the numerous high members of the American government being members of the CFR, high members or chosed pawns for them.  Logically, if 73% of the Israeli Knesset were members of various Kahanist groups the outcome of the Knesset, be it foreign or internal policy, will reflect the basic views of Rabbi Kahane.  This is the same for the CFR (Bilderberg)-Trilateral.  If you read many of the essays published by this treasonous entity (think tank) you can predict America's foreign policy, stock market, internal policies long before it happens...in many cases. 

Good post...  Might I add into the mix the founders of the Leage of Nations and the UN were also Elitists and Communists like Rockefeller, Ford, Colonel House, Alger Hiss and Amerasia's Owen Lattimore.....  places things into a bit clearer perspective no....?

PS: I you have a library near you, you might consider a very worthy read by an Englishman named John Robinson.  His book was printed in 1798 called "Proofs of a Conspiracy".  This little gem, although hard reading, lays the agenda of this NWO elitist/Socialist/Communistic type subversive power movement. 

Even in the mid 1700's when printing presses were starting to pump out many books and reading clubs opened up.  These elitists "thinkers" (Adam Weishaupt for example) with his cohorts started buying them up, entering into and controlling the reading clubs and universities by using their insiders to promote/hire their like minded brethren.  In the end they ended up controlling much of the media, universities, reading societies (for which they could influence, manipulate and enter politics).....sounds very much like the oligarchs that run things today no?  Enjoy brother....  it is a vile topic but hey, they invented and promulgated: Communism: Evolution: Reform "Judaism" with their molested Christian/Socialst sects, Global Warming: Islam is a religion of peace: Bolistians: The W-st Bank: Feminism: Population Control: Central/Federal/nothing based Credit banking: J.M. Keynesian Economics....


I'll respond more letter. 

In a CFR publications, they try to give the impression of indecisiveness and not have a consensus of what needs to be done next.

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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2007, 10:24:05 PM »
Absolutely.  I remember reading a very long time ago about the North American Union....for which this entire Mexican Border farce is a part of.   ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2007, 10:27:18 PM »
Absolutely.  I remember reading a very long time ago about the North American Union....for which this entire Mexican Border farce is a part of.   ;)


Mexican Border farce as in not having a border fence? 

Bill Richardson has said he's against a fence and claims all fences are bad.  He probably also thinks Israel's fence is bad.  Richardson was speaking Spanish yesterday to try to appeal to Spanish speakers. 

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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2007, 10:28:31 PM »
Absolutely.  I remember reading a very long time ago about the North American Union....for which this entire Mexican Border farce is a part of.   ;)


But why do their publications give the impression of indecisiveness and not having a consensus?  So that people won't suspect them of having any influence?

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2007, 10:31:19 PM »
some of their publications about the North American union are very pro-the idea, mainly for economic reasons while not entertaining the border directly.  If the Mexican border is gone and millions of illegals are granted citizenship, that will be the end of Conservatism in America, the end of Nationalism of any sort and most certainly the end of the already defiled "Repblican" Party.  This border farce is just a step towards the union of Mexico, America and Canada...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2007, 10:40:11 PM »
The establishment candidates favor an ID card system for "guest workers."  But then it can't be assumed that the next group of people to enter illegally are in the country illegally.  Thus, everyone would be forced to be part of an ID system. 

Romney favors this system. 

Romney tricked an Arizona sheriff who is very tough on border enforcement.

"Governor Romney has announced Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio as his Honorary Arizona Chairman earlier this year. " 

The sheriff should be endorsing someone like Hunter, which would help promote his candidacy. 

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2007, 10:46:27 PM »
I agree.  No amnesty...DEPORTATION...  I think, in all honesty, the only way to save America now is via coup with these corrupt insider politicians, elitists, academics etc. taken out and shot!  This is my opinion as they have been working constantly since Woodrow Wilson/House to undermine the Constitution and "progress" American into a welfare state like Canada, join all three and make "trading blocks" to be organized and run by a central entity.  Similar to the UN/EU... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2007, 10:50:26 PM »
I agree.  No amnesty...DEPORTATION...  I think, in all honesty, the only way to save America now is via coup with these corrupt insider politicians, elitists, academics etc. taken out and shot!  This is my opinion as they have been working constantly since Woodrow Wilson/House to undermine the Constitution and "progress" American into a welfare state like Canada, join all three and make "trading blocks" to be organized and run by a central entity.  Similar to the UN/EU... 

What would the secret organizations do if an establishment president were to not take orders from them?  Why have the presidents since Wilson all listen to those crooks?  Did Ronald Reagan do everything they wanted him to do? 

I would have though that the secret organizations were disappointed that Carter lost to Reagan.  Did they force Reagan to appoint Bush Sr. as his VP?  Carter wouldn't have wanted the USSR to get dismantled. 

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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2007, 11:17:47 PM »

What would the secret organizations do if an establishment president were to not take orders from them?  Why have the presidents since Wilson all listen to those crooks?  Did Ronald Reagan do everything they wanted him to do? 

I would have though that the secret organizations were disappointed that Carter lost to Reagan.  Did they force Reagan to appoint Bush Sr. as his VP?  Carter wouldn't have wanted the USSR to get dismantled. 
To answer your first question.  Probably would not become President in the first place or the Establishment would have a third person run for whichever candidate that they didn't want in to split the vote so their candidate will get in.  Carter was chosen by the Bilderberg and so was Clinton.  The Establishment ruined McCarthy, MacArther and Goldwater.  Some say Nixon and too Kennedy  were taken down for not following orders which I'd not be surprized if it were true.  David Rockefeller admits to this scheme in his own memoirs. 

As you know the CFR-Trilaterals compose of most of the top positions in the Federal government, World Bank, Federal Reserve, Media, Industry, Banking etc.  These people have worked VERY hard since the early 1800's to gain as much power and control over government, meida and industry.  They choose who will be President.  5 of the last Presidents and/or Presidental candidates were Skull and Bonesmen.  They must listen to these crooks.  In all reality, they are only pawns working, for vasts amounts of dollars, for these crooks.  Even Tony Blair will now go to head the World Bank.  Tell me is that a fraud?  I picked Brown for PM in Britian over a year ago. 

You picked out a very good example: Jimmy Carter.  Did you notice that Carter was such a screw up, bankrupted America, expanded the federal government, Debt and everything unconstitutional and anti-American.  Of course, because of this, his popularity plummetted like a stone so they needed a "real" "conservative".  So they chose Regan.  They actually had a problem with Regan.  He wasn't going to run as head of the Republican party because he was an outsider and was not able to be manipulated.  I believe Regan actually met with Ted Kennedy and David Rockefeller before he ran.  (you know after Carter won he kept all of the CFR insiders on his staff and hired more) 

Regan accepted the offer, if he hadn't he'd have been destroyed like Barry Goldwater had done in '64, and continued on the same relative path as Carter albeit at a slower rate.  If you look at Regans Presidency he was not at all conservative but a globalist, expanded the federal government and the national debt.  Of course he propagated "Tear Down These Walls" but according to Anatoly Golitsyn that was all planned.  Socialism actually expanded World Wide after 1988.  George Bush Sr. is one of the shadiest characters in American history.  He is on par with Henry Kissenger.  He was head of the CIA and was directly involved since WW2.  He, like his father, are insiders with ties to the Eastern Liberal Establishment.

You are right Carter wouldnt' have wanted USSR to get dismantled, because it wasn't.  It just changed.  If you study Communism (The Black Book of Communism- S. Cortois) you will see that it doesn't end only changes until it attains its goal: "Ends justify the means".  Stalinism (murderous dictatorship) did, largely "end" or temporarly suspended while Leninism or Fabianism expanded ten fould.  Ask yourself this question.  Are their more Communist and Socialist States ("Socialism leads to Communism" - Lenin or "I see no difference between Socialism and Communism" - Marx) in the World now, after 1988 or before 1988?  I'd argue the far more: Asia, Middle East, Africa, EU, South America, Canada, Mexico and now America is being undermined.  How can Communism have been defeated if China, Cuba, North Korea, a reverting back to Stalinism Russia....and the aforementioned dictatorships... are still with us and getting worse daily?

You ask very good questions.  Keep up the reading.  It is a troubling topic.  There ARE conspiracies out there, logical and illogical.  The further one delves into this stuff one finds themselves finding much illogical and purely factless "Conspiracy Theories".....like that British animal who believes in Shape Shifters...  Too, it gets into the anti-semitic arena as well because most Gentiles ONLY see Rothschild, Warberg, Oppenheimer etc. but never Rockefeller, Ford, Carnegie, Rhodes, Vanderbilt, Gates, Morgan, Winsor...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2007, 11:21:54 PM »
The Carter (Commie) Regan (Conservative) joke was repeated with Clinton (debauched commie/globalist) was followed by screwing up so greatly by nation needing/demanding a right wing, hard liner Ghorge Bush "Conservative" which turns out to be an insider Globalist fraud that is, without question, the worst president in US history.  frankly I'm shocked that he and many of these other frauds haven't been bumped off by loyal, righeous and caring Americans..
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2007, 06:53:01 AM »
The Carter (Commie) Regan (Conservative) joke was repeated with Clinton (debauched commie/globalist) was followed by screwing up so greatly by nation needing/demanding a right wing, hard liner Ghorge Bush "Conservative" which turns out to be an insider Globalist fraud that is, without question, the worst president in US history.  frankly I'm shocked that he and many of these other frauds haven't been bumped off by loyal, righeous and caring Americans..

What do you mean by bumped off?  The US doesn't have a coalition system where if the coalition splits, new elections could occur. 


These presidents are all concerned with their "legacy."  So why do they implement awful policies if they don't want to have an awful legacy? 

So if Reagan didn't take orders from CFR, they would have found a way to get him impeached?

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2007, 08:52:59 AM »
Bumped off...wacked...clipped...  etc.  Presidents don't really care about their legacy as it is now invented by their supporting, Establishment owned media: Bill Clinton for example.  Regan met with the Industrialists, Bankers etc. before he was elected to run for the Presidency/lead the Republican Party.  He was very popular with the people (same as Ghorge Bush and Barry Goldwater for his Conservative position) the difference being Goldwater stood up agaisnt them as an outsider (in his memoirs) while Bush was an Insider and Regan joined the club and won.  Regan didn't take any orders when he was a simple party member and politician....but of course joined the "party" when he was petitioning why he wasn't able to run for the Presidency with so much public support......  It is one big sham...  big sham.  You wait, if a Republican gets in....  your borders will be opened even if he/she runs on a platform of closing the borders and deporting ALL illegal aliens and wins the Presidency.  At the rate this border fence is going...it will take over 700 years to complete...  they don't want to build the fence.  It is all on big sham...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.