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Offline Ari Ben-Canaan

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Oy vey!

I am learning how to read Hebrew w/ the vowel sounds written underneath the script.  I can see online people speak Hebrew w/o vowels written out.  I could not imagine reading English with out vowels ["cld nt mgn rdng nglsh wth t vwls"]. -- At least not with the same amount of comprehension as I do with vowels.

I get confused...  How would my name, "Ariel", be written w/o vowels?  "rl"?  How would that be different than how "Uriel" is written?

Am I wrong to think that learning with vowels first is a good idea, and then to progress and try reading and writing w/o vowels after?  Are the vowel script like training wheels on a kids bike?

Obviously its doable somehow!  :)
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Re: Written Hebrew w/ vowel sounds vs. written Hebrew w/o vowel sounds?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 05:23:17 AM »
in hebrew you can write without the vowels.
enemies:negroes,musulmans and commies/liberals.
alleis:israel,united states,canada,european union,greater serbia,russia,australia and new zealand and japan/south korea and india.togheter we maight win this war.

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Re: Written Hebrew w/ vowel sounds vs. written Hebrew w/o vowel sounds?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 05:46:17 AM »
Writing Hebrew without vowels means writing them without the dots that are seen around the letters, not the letters themselves like Aleph and Yod and Vav.  Every letter in the Hebrew alphabet would still be written, so your name would still be written as אריאל even without vowels.  Uriel would be written as אוריאל without vowels.  It's fine to start learning with the vowel points because you need to know them but don't get too hung up on them and concentrate on memorizing the letters themselves while you're reading and not the vowels.  I think training wheels is a good comparison.

Thanks! :dance:
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

 “I am all peace, but when I speak, they are for war.” -Psalms 120:7

"The difference between a Jewish liberal and a Jewish conservative is that when a Jewish liberal walks out of the Holocaust Museum, he feels, "This shows why we need to have more tolerance and multiculturalism." The Jewish conservative feels, "We should have killed a lot more Nazis, and sooner."" - Philip Klein