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President Hails Deal on Immigration Reform

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

WASHINGTON (May 18) - In a striking reach across party lines, the White House and key lawmakers agreed Thursday on a sweeping immigration  plan to grant legal status to millions of people in the country unlawfully.

Sealed after months of secretive bargaining, the deal mandates bolstered border security and a high-tech employment verification system to prevent illegal workers from getting jobs.

President Bush  said the proposal would "help enforce our borders but equally importantly, it'll treat people with respect."

The compromise brought together an unlikely alliance of liberal Democrats such as Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and conservative Republicans such as Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona on an issue that carries heavy potential risks and rewards for all involved.

Senate  Majority Leader Harry Reid , D-Nev., said debate would begin on Monday, but he cautioned, "I don't know if the immigration legislation is going to bear fruit and we're going to be able to pass it."
Almost instantly, the plan brought vehement criticism from both sides of the immigration issue, including liberals who called it unfair and unworkable and conservatives who branded it an overly permissive "amnesty."

The proposal constitutes a far-reaching change in the immigration system that would admit future arrivals seeking to put down roots in the U.S. based on their skills, education levels and job experience, limiting the importance of family ties. A new class of guest workers would be allowed in temporarily, but only after the new security measures were in place - expected to take 18 months.

"This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty but without animosity," Bush said.

Kennedy hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."

Kyl said the measure wasn't perfect, "but it represents the best opportunity that we have in a bipartisan way to do something about this problem."

It was clear, however, that many Republicans and Democrats were deeply skeptical. Reid said it needed improvement.

"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said.

Conservatives on both sides of the Capitol derided the deal as "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, using a politically charged word that figured prominently in campaigns across the country last year.

"I don't care how you try to spin it, this is amnesty," said Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C.

The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and - after paying fees and a $5,000 fine - ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of households would have to return to their home countries first.

They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.

A new crop of low-skilled guest workers would have to return home after stints of two years. They could renew their visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time. If they wanted to stay in the U.S. permanently, they would have to apply under the point system for a limited pool of green cards.

The program drew fire from liberal groups that said it was unworkable. They had joined Democrats in pressing instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S., and ultimately earn the chance to stay.

"Without a clear path to permanent residence for a healthy share of the future temporary workers, we run the risk of reproducing the widespread illegality that this bill is designed to address," said Frank Sharry, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum.

Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., said he would try to kill the temporary worker program because it would bring in a potentially unlimited stream of immigrants to compete with Americans for jobs and depress wages.

In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy.

Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card - except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens. Strict new limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.

The issue quickly became a subject of debate among presidential candidates in both parties, exposing divisions among Republicans.

Sen. John McCain , R-Ariz., who led the charge last year to push through an immigration overhaul, called the deal "the first step" and urged moving it forward before the politics of 2008 made such action impossible.

"We all know that this issue can be caught up in extracurricular politics unless we move forward as quickly as possible," said McCain.

Mitt Romney, another Republican  presidential hopeful, issued a statement calling the plan "the wrong approach," saying it conferred "a form of amnesty" on illegal immigrants. "That is unfair to the millions of people who have applied to legally immigrate to the U.S.," the former Massachusetts governor said.

Former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee, who is weighing a presidential bid, said the measure should be scrapped in favor of one that secures the border.

"With this bill, the American people are going to think they are being sold the same bill of goods as before on border security," Thompson said in a statement.

Democratic Sen. Barack Obama  of Illinois said the compromise needs work.

"Without modifications, the proposed bill could devalue the importance of family reunification, replace the current group of undocumented immigrants with a new undocumented population consisting of guest workers who will overstay their visas, and potentially drive down wages of American workers," Obama said in a statement.


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Good article MasterWolf1, I have been following this story since the other day when it started to come out and have to say that it really seems that this is the end of the line for America. I am trying to buy into the line that its the best we can do and its this bill or nothing for the next few years. In all honesty I really feel the American citizens are being sold the rope to hang themselves with. The whole thing stinks. Back room dealing by evil politicians in both parties and an president who is a wolf in sheep's clothing. On top of this congress and the president are in an all fired rush to get this through before the American people get smart to how they have been sold down the Rio Grandee river. I have been  looking at the papers and listening to the news and radio talk shows today and must say they have my head going in circles with all the different view points. The way I look at it is this is amnesty  plain and simple. We will soon be stuck with the 20 million illegals we now have and all their family soon to arrive.
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If Bush loves these Illegals so much, and McCain and all these Washington whores how come someone like Bush doesn't keep them in his own Ranch in Crawford? You think Laura Bush and his kids will feel safe when Lopez and gang run a muck?
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Romney did a good job reminding conservatives in Tuesday night's debate of "McCain--Kennedy. 
Before McCain responded, he looked like he wanted to cry. 

In interviews, McCain could have taken responsibility off of himself for the new negotiations between Jorge Bush, Ted Kennedy and other open borders people.  However, McCain said that he was in private meetings and involved with the negotiations. 

I think people are becoming less trustful of McCain.  As of last week, he was leading the Republican polls in NH, a state he won during the 2000 primaries.  He's now dropped below Romney and Giuliani.


I'm not sure I trust Romney though.  For example, last year he supported the McCain-Kennedy bill.  But afterward when he found out that conservatives were against it, he's now against the new bill. 


Duncan Hunter finished as high as 2nd in a straw poll in SC a few months ago.  Hopefully, he could gain name recognition and popularity among conservatives. 


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Romney will be one of the top 2 because he's pandering to conservatives at this point. McCain will fall off the map because of his support for continuing Bush's namby-pamby conduct of the war as well as his support for legalizing all the illegals.

As for this decision by Bush, it is a complete sell-out of conservative principles as well as the rule of law. It shows that the establishment republican party refuses to enforce the rule of law and remove these illegal aliens because it is too hard. This was further outlined by that [censored] Michael Chertoff saying that the majority of the Mexicans that come are "gardeners and maids".  >:( [censored]!  In reality though, these people living illegally might as well have been legalized citizens. Neither party has the will nor the desire to enforce the law and remove them. The law is irrelevent because scummy businesses continue to hire them and in turn drive down wages for real American workers. Neither party wants to take action against businesses or law-breaking Mexicans. As Chaim's said before, if America can land a man on the moon they can remove all the illegals.

What a slap in the face to all the Mexicans who applied legally and toiled for years in the immigration system to get in? They work their asses off and do it the right way and Bush tells them they should've just paid a coyote a few hundred bucks to get him over the border. He's telling them it pays to break the law.
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Romney will be one of the top 2 because he's pandering to conservatives at this point. McCain will fall off the map because of his support for continuing Bush's namby-pamby conduct of the war as well as his support for legalizing all the illegals.

As for this decision by Bush, it is a complete sell-out of conservative principles as well as the rule of law. It shows that the establishment republican party refuses to enforce the rule of law and remove these illegal aliens because it is too hard. This was further outlined by that [censored] Michael Chertoff saying that the majority of the Mexicans that come are "gardeners and maids".  >:( excrement!  In reality though, these people living illegally might as well have been legalized citizens. Neither party has the will nor the desire to enforce the law and remove them. The law is irrelevent because scummy businesses continue to hire them and in turn drive down wages for real American workers. Neither party wants to take action against businesses or law-breaking Mexicans. As Chaim's said before, if America can land a man on the moon they can remove all the illegals.

What a slap in the face to all the Mexicans who applied legally and toiled for years in the immigration system to get in? They work their asses off and do it the right way and Bush tells them they should've just paid a coyote a few hundred bucks to get him over the border. He's telling them it pays to break the law.


A couple weeks ago, McCain had a solid lead in Iowa, NH and a big lead in South Carolina.  Now, Romney has a double digit lead in Iowa and is probably also winning in NH. 

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I really feel that people like Ted Kennedy and John McCain's days in Washington should draw to a close. They are both relics of a day that has gone by and in all honesty cause nothing but problems with their presence in congress. The thought of McCain running for president is comical. When you see him on the campaign trail he looks dead. How would this man survive office for 4 to 8 years. He seems senile now and Kennedy is not in much better shape. Be that as it may its this duo that is shaping the legislation on Illegals that are here already and coming into the country. Is this the people you want directing legislation  that will dictate how America will deal with its immigration problem? The bill they have formulated will destroy America as we know it and devastate the working class in America. All because big business wants cheap labor and has leaders such as McCain and Kennedy in their pockets. Call and write your representative and tell them you are not in favor of this bill passing. This is a mater of survival for all American citizens to see that this bill defeated.
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