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« on: August 24, 2010, 10:08:46 AM »

Rallies near mosque site

The Muslim version of good cop / bad cop is taqqiyah Muslim / truthful Muslim. See my bracketed comment below.
The AP reports:

Rallies over mosque near ground zero get heated
NEW YORK--Hundreds of impassioned demonstrators--all waving American flags, but separated into two groups by police--descended on the site of the proposed mosque near ground zero, with opponents chanting, "No mosque, no way!" and supporters shouting, "We say no to racist fear!"

The two leaders of the construction project, meanwhile, defended their plans on Sunday, though one suggested that organizers might eventually be willing to discuss an alternative site. The other, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, said during a Middle East trip that the attention generated by the project is actually positive and that he hopes it will bring greater understanding. [LA replies: So Rauf, the taqqiya Muslim, is still saying that the purpose of the mosque is to achieve "greater understanding" between Muslims and non-Muslims, even as his wife continues to state the Muslims' real intent, which is that the mosque must be built at that site no matter how much it traumatizes non-Muslims. When will people understand the utterly simple fact that Muslims lie to non-Muslims, that they are commanded by their religion to lie to non-Muslims, and that if we don't want to be dealing with their lies forever, we cannot allow them to continue residing among us, but must send them back to their own lands?]

The rallies took place around the corner from the cordoned-off old building that is to become a 13-story Islamic community center and mosque. There were no reports of physical clashes but there were some nose-to-nose confrontations, including a man and a woman screaming at each other across a barricade under a steady rain.

Opponents of the $100 million project two blocks from the World Trade Center site appeared to outnumber supporters. Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" blared over loudspeakers as mosque opponents chanted, "No mosque, no way!"

Signs hoisted by dozens of protesters standing behind police barricades read "SHARIA"--using dripping, blood-red letters to describe Islam's Shariah law, which governs Muslims' behavior.

Steve Ayling, a 40-year-old Brooklyn plumber, said the people behind the mosque project are "the same people who took down the twin towers."

Opponents demand that the mosque be moved farther from the site where more than 2,700 people were killed on Sept. 11, 2001. "They should put it in the Middle East," Ayling said.

On a nearby sidewalk, police chased away a group that unfurled a banner with images of beating, stoning and other torture they said was committed by those who followed Islamic law.

A mannequin wearing a keffiyeh, a traditional Arab headdress, was mounted on one of two mock missiles that were part of an anti-mosque installation. One missile was inscribed with the words: "Again? Freedom Targeted by Religion"; the other with "Obama: With a middle name Hussein. We understand. Bloomberg: What is your excuse?"

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has fiercely defended plans for the proposed mosque, saying that the right "to practice your religion was one of the real reasons America was founded."

The mosque project is being led by Rauf and his wife, Daisy Khan, who insist the center will promote moderate Islam. The dispute has sparked a national debate on religious freedom and American values and is becoming an issue on the campaign trail ahead of the midterm elections. Republicans have been critical of President Barack Obama's stance: He has said the Muslims have the right to build the center at the site but has not commented on whether he thinks they should.

Rauf is in the middle of a Mideast trip funded by the U.S. State Department that is intended to promote religious tolerance. He told a gathering Sunday at the U.S. ambassador's residence in the Persian Gulf state of Bahrain that he took heart from the dispute over the mosque, saying "the fact we are getting this kind of attention is a sign of success."

"It is my hope that people will understand more," Rauf said without elaborating.

Democratic New York Gov. David Paterson has suggested that state land farther from ground zero be used for the center. Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, expressed some openness to that idea on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour," but said she would have to meet with the center's other "stakeholders" first.

"We want to build bridges," Khan said. "We don't want to create conflict, this is not where we were coming from."

But Khan also said the angry reaction to the project "is like a metastasized anti-Semitism."

At the pro-mosque rally, staged a block away from opponents' demonstration, several hundred people chanted, "Muslims are welcome here! We say no to racist fear!"

Dr. Ali Akram, a 39-year-old Brooklyn physician, came with his three sons and an 11-year-old nephew waving an American flag. He noted that scores of Muslims were among those who died in the towers, and he called those who oppose the mosque "un-American."

"They teach their children about the freedom of religion in America--but they don't practice what they preach," Akram said.

Rauf, in an interview with Bahrain's Al Wasat newspaper, said America's sweeping constitutional rights are more in line with Islamic principles than the limits imposed by some Muslim nations.

"American Muslims have the right to practice their religion in accordance with the Constitution of the United States," Rauf said. "I see the article of independence as more compliant with the principles of Islam than what is available in many of the current Muslim countries."

A portion of the Al Wasat interview--to be published Monday--was seen Sunday by The Associated Press.

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A reader writes:

Could you please give a reference to where the Koran says Muslims should lie to non-Muslims?
Thank you.

LA replies:

From Wikipedia:

Origin of the Practice
The practice of concealing one's faith in dangerous circumstances originates in the Qur'an itself, which deems blameless those who disguise their beliefs in such cases. The practice of taqiyya in difficult circumstances is considered legitimate by Muslims of various persuasions. Sunni and Shi'i commentators alike observe that Q 16:106 in particular refers to the case of 'Ammar b. Yasir, who was forced to renounce his beliefs under physical duress and torture.

Similarly, Q 3:28 enjoins believers not to take the company of doubters unless as a means of safeguarding themselves. "Let not the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers--since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything--unless it be to protect yourself against them in this way ... "Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir, a prominent authority writes, "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil may protect himself through outward show." As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's companion, al-Hassan, who said, "taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity]."

Historical examples of Taqiyya

Sunni Uses

In the inquisition mi_na during the Caliphate of al-Ma'mun, a number of Sunni scholars were compelled to use taqiyya, attesting to the Qur'an as having been created despite believing the opposite.

Shi'i Uses

As a minority living under the political dominance of Sunni Muslims, it was often necessary for Shi'i communities to employ prudence and cautions in order to protect themselves. In Shi'i legal literature, there are a range of situations in which taqiyya may be used and in some cases, even required. For Shi'i Muslims, taqiyya has two aspects: to conceal their association with the Imams when revealing it would result in danger, and protecting the esoteric teachings of the Imams from those who lack the capacity to grasp them.

[end of Wikipedia excerpt]

Now, one could say that taqiyya as described by Wikipedia is only for defensive purposes, to avoid persecution and so forth. But we must remember that from the Islamic point of view, ALL Islamic actions against unbelievers are "defensive," because ALL unbelievers are, by definition, waging aggressive war against Islam. Why else are all non-Islamic lands called the Realm of War? Because, simply by virtue of existing as non-Islamic countries, they are at war with Allah and the Muslim community. And this interpretation is consistent with every page of the Koran, where Allah directs his sadistic fury at the unbelievers. What have the unbelievers done to deserve this hatred? Nothing except not believing in Allah. Not to believe in Allah is not just an error, but a monstrous act of evil, a perverse act of betrayal, an unappeasable insult, deserving of the worst reprisals including eternal flaying in hell and all the rest of it.
Now I don't know for a fact that "aggressive taqiyya" is distinguished from "defensive taqiyya" in Islam, with the aggressive type ultimately justified as a form of the defensive type. But it's a reasonable supposition that it is, based on the Islamic treatment of defensive jihad and aggressive jihad. See Sayyid Qutb on the meaning and purpose of jihad where he argues, based on the Koran and hadiths, that Muslims are commanded to wage not just defensive jihad but aggressive jihad.

Posted by Lawrence Auster at August 23, 2010 08:00 AM | Comment | Send