German Banker in Govt accused of anti semitism i'm not that sure

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He made many comments about the Qurananimal About the Jewish People all he said is that they share a particular gene,i thought this was a fact   



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German central banker criticized for remarks on Jews

Foreign, defense ministers say Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for saying 'all Jews share a particular gene,' arguing that Muslims undermine German society, marry 'imported brides'

Reuters
Published:    08.29.10, 14:51 / Israel News
   
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German government leaders condemned a central bank executive on Sunday for making anti-Semitic remarks before the publication of his book on Monday that takes a critical look at Turk and Arab immigrants.

 

Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle and Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for comments about Jews, remarks that were also criticized by Jewish leaders in the country responsible for the Holocaust.

 

"All Jews share a particular gene, Basques share a certain gene that sets them apart," Sarrazin told Welt am Sonntag newspaper ahead of the release of his book "Deutschland schafft sich ab" (Germany does away with itself).

 

Sarrazin, a Bundesbank board member, denied he was stirring racism. He has faced heavy criticism for making disparaging comments about Muslim immigrants. Sarrazin has repeatedly created uproar for criticizing Turks and Arabs in Germany.

 

"There's no room in the political debate for remarks that whip up racism or anti-Semitism," Westerwelle said.

 

"There are limits to every provocation and Bundesbank board member Sarrazin has clearly gone out of bounds with this mistaken and inappropriate comment," Guttenberg added.

 

Stephan Kramer and Michel Friedman, leaders in Germany's Jewish community, also criticized Sarrazin, 65, a member of the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) and former finance minister in the city-state of Berlin.

 

"Someone who tries to define Jews by a genetic make-up is consumed by a racist mania," Kramer said.

 

"Enough already!" Friedman wrote in Bild am Sonntag newspaper. "No more tolerance for this intolerance. It's okay to provoke thought but enough of this baiting and defamation. We don't need any hate preachers, especially in the Bundesbank."

 
Embarrassment for Bundesbank

Almost 3 million people of Turkish origin and an estimated 280,000 of Arab extraction live in Germany.

 

Leaders in Sarrazin's SPD have called for him to quit the party and resign from the Bundesbank.

 

Sarrazin's comments have also embarrassed Bundesbank President Axel Weber, who some German leaders have backed to succeed Jean-Claude Trichet as president of the European Central Bank next year.

 

The Bundesbank has tried to distance itself from his remarks, saying they are his personal opinions and not linked to his role at the bank. The central bank requires evidence of "serious misconduct" to bring about Sarrazin's dismissal.

 

The central bank last year stripped Sarrazin of some of his duties. If the central bank's board voted to remove Sarrazin, the move would then need the approval of the president.

 

In the book, Sarrazin argues that Muslims undermine German society, marry "imported brides" and have a bad attitude. He said young Muslim men were aggressive due to sexual frustration.

 

"Sadly, the huge potential for aggression in this group is obvious. The Arab boys can't get at their Arab girls," he said.

 

"In the end, they use the German girls from the underclass who are easier to get, and then they hold them in contempt because they're so readily available."

[Rubystars]

That sounds more like a statement of fact than an anti-Semitic tirade. I'm not sure that ALL Jews share the same genes though. I mean first generation converts wouldnt' but if they married a Jewish person then their children would. Also some populations that converted in the past but are not literal descendants of the ancient Jews might not share the genetic markers.

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That sounds more like a statement of fact than an anti-Semitic tirade. I'm not sure that ALL Jews share the same genes though. I mean first generation converts wouldnt' but if they married a Jewish person then their children would. Also some populations that converted in the past but are not literal descendants of the ancient Jews might not share the genetic markers.

Yes that would true

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

Ishmael's father, Abraham, was a Semite.  Ishmael's mother, Hagar, was a Hamite.  Ishmael's wife was a Hamite.  Arabs descend from Ishmael; Arabs are predominantly Hamites more than anything else.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Sounds like the Bolshevik media thinks that more average people will dislike an anti-Semite than an "Islamophobe".

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He made many comments about the Qurananimal About the Jewish People all he said is that they share a particular gene,i thought this was a fact   



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German central banker criticized for remarks on Jews

Foreign, defense ministers say Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for saying 'all Jews share a particular gene,' arguing that Muslims undermine German society, marry 'imported brides'

Reuters
Published:    08.29.10, 14:51 / Israel News
   
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German government leaders condemned a central bank executive on Sunday for making anti-Semitic remarks before the publication of his book on Monday that takes a critical look at Turk and Arab immigrants.

 

Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle and Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for comments about Jews, remarks that were also criticized by Jewish leaders in the country responsible for the Holocaust.

 

"All Jews share a particular gene, Basques share a certain gene that sets them apart," Sarrazin told Welt am Sonntag newspaper ahead of the release of his book "Deutschland schafft sich ab" (Germany does away with itself).

 

Sarrazin, a Bundesbank board member, denied he was stirring racism. He has faced heavy criticism for making disparaging comments about Muslim immigrants. Sarrazin has repeatedly created uproar for criticizing Turks and Arabs in Germany.

 

"There's no room in the political debate for remarks that whip up racism or anti-Semitism," Westerwelle said.

 

"There are limits to every provocation and Bundesbank board member Sarrazin has clearly gone out of bounds with this mistaken and inappropriate comment," Guttenberg added.

 

Stephan Kramer and Michel Friedman, leaders in Germany's Jewish community, also criticized Sarrazin, 65, a member of the center-left Social Democrats (SPD) and former finance minister in the city-state of Berlin.

 

"Someone who tries to define Jews by a genetic make-up is consumed by a racist mania," Kramer said.

 

"Enough already!" Friedman wrote in Bild am Sonntag newspaper. "No more tolerance for this intolerance. It's okay to provoke thought but enough of this baiting and defamation. We don't need any hate preachers, especially in the Bundesbank."

 
Embarrassment for Bundesbank

Almost 3 million people of Turkish origin and an estimated 280,000 of Arab extraction live in Germany.

 

Leaders in Sarrazin's SPD have called for him to quit the party and resign from the Bundesbank.

 

Sarrazin's comments have also embarrassed Bundesbank President Axel Weber, who some German leaders have backed to succeed Jean-Claude Trichet as president of the European Central Bank next year.

 

The Bundesbank has tried to distance itself from his remarks, saying they are his personal opinions and not linked to his role at the bank. The central bank requires evidence of "serious misconduct" to bring about Sarrazin's dismissal.

 

The central bank last year stripped Sarrazin of some of his duties. If the central bank's board voted to remove Sarrazin, the move would then need the approval of the president.

 

In the book, Sarrazin argues that Muslims undermine German society, marry "imported brides" and have a bad attitude. He said young Muslim men were aggressive due to sexual frustration.

 

"Sadly, the huge potential for aggression in this group is obvious. The Arab boys can't get at their Arab girls," he said.

 

"In the end, they use the German girls from the underclass who are easier to get, and then they hold them in contempt because they're so readily available."

   Innocent banker being banned   


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     Comment: Why are Germans upset over critic of Islam?
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Comment: Why are Germans upset over critic of Islam?
By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL
09/02/2010 06:23

Former politician admits trying to ‘jolt’ Germans over Muslim integration.
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BERLIN – “Everyone’s against Sarrazin!” was the headline that Bild,Germany’s largest daily newspaper, chose for its Tuesday issue. Deutsche Bundesbank board member Thilo Sarrazin has sharply criticized both German Muslims for failing to embrace integration and Islam for its tendency to lead to terror.

Sarrazin, 65, a former Social Democratic finance commissioner for Berlin state (2002- 2009), has become, according to some observers, the subject of a feeding frenzy by the German media and political establishment, which is turning an unconventional thinker into a pariah.

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“What did he say that was so sensational? You can look up all the facts. You can see – Germany supposedly loves people who think outside the box. But Germans don’t trust non-conformist opinions. That’s why this witch-hunt is happening,” the well-known German-Jewish journalist Henryk M. Broder said.

While Turkish and Islamic organizations have accused Sarrazin of racism and damaging Germany’s reputation abroad, the prominent German- Turkish sociologist and best-selling author Necla Kelek, who has defended Sarrazin, introduced him at a Berlin press conference on Monday attended by roughly 300 journalists, a number normally reserved for Chancellor Angela Merkel’s infrequent press appearances.

Kelek said Sarrazin addressed “bitter truths” in his new book and the chattering classes have judged it without reading it.

What first triggered the controversy surrounding the publication of the book, Germany Abolishes Itself, which appeared in bookstores on Monday, were Sarrazin’s comments about Islam and Jews.

Regarding Islam, Sarrazin said, “No other religion in Europe makes so many demands. No immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime. No group emphasizes their differences so strongly in public, especially through women’s clothing. In no other religion is the transition to violence, dictatorship and terrorism so fluid.”

While Sarrazin has tapped into a raw nerve among the politically and socially correct elites of Germany, which roundly slammed him for his language, his critique of Muslims and his right to articulate his views enjoy widespread support within mainstream German society. Polls have revealed extraordinary levels of approval for Sarrazin, ranging from 85 percent to 95% of those questioned.

The first edition of his 460- page book (25,000 copies) promptly sold out, and a second edition of 15,000 was quickly purchased, prompting a third edition (70,000) and a fourth (80,000) to be commissioned.

CNN Turkey said on its news site that “The Netherlands has their Gert Wilders. Germany has its Thilo Sarrazin.” Wilders, leader of the Party for Freedom in his country, has waged a campaign against political Islam in the Netherlands. The Sarrazin debate had dominated the Turkish press.

The furor associated with Sarrazin’s book has led to a bizarre wave of anti-intellectual hysteria, triggering leading German politicians and journalists to trash Germany Abolishes Itself without having read it. A bookstore in Hildesheim, 30 km. southeast of Hanover, announced the cancellation of Sarrazin’s first public reading on Thursday due to “security concerns” in connection with a group called “Alliance against the Right.”

The Alliance has urged on a poster that Sarrazin be kidnapped.

Arno Widmann, a cultural editor for the Frankfurter Rundschau daily, whose writings are considered to be anti-Israeli by some, went so far as to call for the prosecutor’s office to indict Sarrazin for inciting hatred.

Sarrazin’s thesis that “all Jews share a particular gene. That makes them different from other peoples” provoked perhaps the most controversy. He also said Basques share a common gene.

While the discussion about a shared genetic makeup among Jews was reported on in June in The New York Times and Jewish newspapers, Germans react in a Pavlovian way to genetic theories, because the Nazis employed biological racial theories to dehumanize Jews and other groups. All of this helps to explain the hysterical attacks on Sarrazin’s references to Jewish genetics.

Germany’s Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle went so far as to term Sarrazin’s comments “anti-Semitic and racist.”

Back in 2002, Westerwelle could not bring himself to rope in Jürgen Möllemann’s (then a top Free Democratic Party politician) mass-mailing of election flyers bashing prime minister Ariel Sharon. Möllemann’s campaign strategy was widely viewed as the first public use of anti-Semitism to win over voters since the Hitler movement.

Leading members of the FDP, including Westerwelle and Development Minister Dirk Niebel, have refused to recognize the outbreak of Israel-hatred within the FDP as modern anti-Semitism.

Meanwhile, Sarrazin further clarified his comment and said, “A statement I made in an interview on August 29, 2010, caused irritation and misunderstanding that I regret. When I said that ‘all Jews share a particular gene,’ I did not express myself with sufficient precision.”

Does that make Sarrazin an anti-Semite? Broder, the Spiegel newsweekly commentator, offered what might very well be the most cogent explanation for Sarrazin’s statements about Jews.

“And there’s a second trick that’s being used now: he’s being accused of anti-Semitism. If you could accuse him of anything, it’s philo-Semitism, because he wrongly thinks Jews are more intelligent than others,” Broder said.

He added, “But of course, behind the anti-Semitism accusation you can really go after the man, because anti-Semitism of course is no longer acceptable in Germany, and rightly so. There is no substantive debate here at all – the issue is that a nation gets up, as it were, they all agree and they take it all out on a scapegoat who they’d like to send into the desert. It’s very disturbing.”

Sarrazin has acknowledged that he used emotionally charged language to jolt Germans out of a dogmatic slumber about their country’s failed integration policies toward Muslims. His rhetoric is at times prone to clumsy generalizations and sweeping provocations. The efforts to silence him and prevent a debate about his book seem to prove his thesis correct. A closing of the German mind does not help advance the discussion about the dangers of German Islamism and failed assimilation programs.