The porn industry needs to be destoryed

[Duncan]

To play the 'devil's advocate'....

what exactly is porn?

how do you define the limits between permissable sexiness and lewd acts?

is a short-story about love-making pornographic? how about a 20 minute video?

isn't porn basically an educational program on how to be a better lover to your spouse?

pornographic materials are not criminal in a country like the USA because the Right to free speech is protected and if a person wishes to express that artistic talent through some kind of sexual display then so be it. we do not have to watch their 'work of art' nor do we need to support the so-called 'artist' in their endeavors.



Just my two pennies... ymmv

[Joe Schmo]

To play the 'devil's advocate'....

what exactly is porn?

how do you define the limits between permissable sexiness and lewd acts?

is a short-story about love-making pornographic? how about a 20 minute video?

isn't porn basically an educational program on how to be a better lover to your spouse?

pornographic materials are not criminal in a country like the USA because the Right to free speech is protected and if a person wishes to express that artistic talent through some kind of sexual display then so be it. we do not have to watch their 'work of art' nor do we need to support the so-called 'artist' in their endeavors.



Just my two pennies... ymmv

Porn supporters should be executed too!

[Nic Brookes]

I think, the porn industry is a part of a bigger social illness caused by a vaccum of ideology.

Erotica, however, will exist till the end of days.

Exactly.

[Sarah]

I consider nude art to be unacceptable as well, however it is fully accepted as being "beautiful". Also the fact it exists so publically, in galleries etc It may be a still sculpture or a still unreal image but be it real people or not, it represents the same meanings.

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

I consider nude art to be unacceptable as well, however it is fully accepted as being "beautiful". Also the fact it exists so publically, in galleries etc It may be a still sculpture or a still unreal image but be it real people or not, it represents the same meanings.

I think, Middle-Eastern people are more conservative in that respect.

Europeans, on the other side, have always been into eroticism. It was apparent in Ancient Greek and Roman cultures, as well as at later stages.

[tonythetiger]

I remember watching a documentary on adult film stars a while back. After watching them recount the details of their lives, it would seem one was more screwed up than the other. There was this one actress being interviewed on the program. When asked about her past, she disclosed that she was molested as a child, she ran away, she sold her body on and off screen, the amount of drugs she was addicted to, the orgy parties, the constant pressure of getting work ("bribing" producers), the repeated suicide attempts. After that, she just broke down and couldn't finish the interview. That was like she was reliving the ordeal. Who wouldn't feel bad for her. That's where I agreee the porn industry is evil. Not only because it's wrong, it exploits young women who were mostly victimized during their impressionable years. A lot of abused girls wind up involved in pornography, prostitution, or something that has to do with sex. But the mainstream paints it as a glamorous industry. That industry is corrupt beyond damnation...............

[Joe Schmo]

I remember watching a documentary on adult film stars a while back. After watching them recount the details of their lives, it would seem one was more screwed up than the other. There was this one actress being interviewed on the program. When asked about her past, she disclosed that she was molested as a child, she ran away, she sold her body on and off screen, the amount of drugs she was addicted to, the orgy parties, the constant pressure of getting work ("bribing" producers), the repeated suicide attempts. After that, she just broke down and couldn't finish the interview. That was like she was reliving the ordeal. Who wouldn't feel bad for her. That's where I agreee the porn industry is evil. Not only because it's wrong, it exploits young women who were mostly victimized during their impressionable years. A lot of abused girls wind up involved in pornography, prostitution, or something that has to do with sex. But the mainstream paints it as a glamorous industry. That industry is corrupt beyond damnation...............

"Oh, the poor porno girls."

Give me a break.

The CHILDREN that see this crap are the victims. 

"Who wouldn't feel bad for her?"

I WOULDN'T!

[tonythetiger]

Well that's your choice and your opinion. Remember I said, the girl was molested as a child. Victims of molestation are NEVER the same again, in case you didn't know. Some people can't cope with the pain, they engage in wicked acts to escape. And a lot of adult film stars, have admitted experiencing sexual abuse in their childhood, they are completely lost without hope. Now, I felt bad for this ONE actress, because she had a dysfunctional life, not ALL THE POOR PORNO GIRLS. IT IS NOT TO DOWNPLAY AN INNOCENT CHILD WATCHING PORNOGRAPHY.  So do yourself a favor, DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. A LOT of adult film stars them are their own worst enemy and G-d has a way of dealing with them. AIDS, STD's, Drug addiction etc. And you honestly think I condone children watching pornography?

You just watch your tone with me................

[Sarah]

There are a lot of adult film stars who have suffered from abuse while youngsters BUT there are thousands more who are suffering and are NOT film stars AND are good people. I think dysfunctional families are used as an excuse everybody has something messed up in their lives, you live with it, get over it and try to differ from your aggressors.

[Joe Schmo]

To become addicted to drugs, one needs to physically do drugs.

One needs only to look to become addicted to porn.

[tonythetiger]

Good point, Sarah. It's true they use it as a crutch to justify their behavior, reaping what they sow later on. Whereas other victims of molestation lead productive lives, blocking out the trauma while maintaining a sense of morality.(I tip my cap to them.) An old saying comes to mind "You can take a horse to the river, but you can't make it drink."

[Imerica]

To be fair it is good for the less socially active students

(edit: NOT the porn industry... sex eduaction)

I agree with that. But I also think that sex education, when taught correctly has a way of influencing children not to give their bodies to just ANYONE. Waiting is best but if they insist on not waiting, they should be educated about STD's, the emotional aspect of giving yourself in that way, and contraception.

[Sarah]

To become addicted to drugs, one needs to physically do drugs.

One needs only to look to become addicted to porn.

For some it would almost blind them for life. It depends, if you're a twisted person ready to indulge in evil then its non-stop, however people with some sense of moral recognition i do believe turn away and  never dare look again.
Drugs stimulate physical changes that are hard to stop, porn is stemmed by the imagination.....

[Sarah]

To be fair it is good for the less socially active students

(edit: NOT the porn industry... sex eduaction)

I agree with that. But I also think that sex education, when taught correctly has a way of influencing children not to give their bodies to just ANYONE. Waiting is best but if they insist on not waiting, they should be educated about STD's, the emotional aspect of giving yourself in that way, and contraception.

I think its ridiculous to HAVE to teach children not to give their bodies to anyone. What happened to self-control and morals?!?!

[Nic Brookes]

Sexual thoughts are normal. They keep you from homosexuality and other evils.  Porn isn't normal. It encourages deviant behavior.

[Imerica]

Sexual thoughts are normal. They keep you from homosexuality and other evils.  Porn isn't normal. It encourages deviant behavior.

That depends on how you look at it (no pun intended). For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning. SOmetimes there is one person in the couple who attaches easily to watching porn just for kicks, then becomes addicted. Therapy for them (personally) and marriage councelling for the couple as a whole; my suggestion.

[Nic Brookes]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

[Imerica]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

Are you married?

[Imerica]

To be fair it is good for the less socially active students

(edit: NOT the porn industry... sex eduaction)

I agree with that. But I also think that sex education, when taught correctly has a way of influencing children not to give their bodies to just ANYONE. Waiting is best but if they insist on not waiting, they should be educated about STD's, the emotional aspect of giving yourself in that way, and contraception.

I think its ridiculous to HAVE to teach children not to give their bodies to anyone. What happened to self-control and morals?!?!

Actually its not rediculous but I'll lend this much to the conversation. There are some parents who are so closed off from their children and sex that they won't dare speak the word in front of them. My grandmother was like that. She told my mother  nothing, so by the time it came to me asking my mom to give me, her first born, the 'talk' she shuddered, filibustered and changed the subject... then she turned on PBS and lo & behold "The Miracle of Childbirth" was just coming on. She left me sitting there watching it. It didn't answer the questions I needed to know about sex but it had to do for the moment.

The problem is that there are adults who are comfortable with their sex lives but not comfortable enough to tell their children the truth. You can't have self-respect, or self-control for that matter if you aren't taught from the beginning about the variables in which you'd need to enact those qualities.

[Nic Brookes]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

Are you married?

No. As you are clearly pretending you have some kind of knowledge here, you would know all about porn. Please, do go on and show us all how immoral you are.

[Imerica]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

Are you married?

No. As you are clearly pretending you have some kind of knowledge here, you would know all about porn. Please, do go on and show us all how immoral you are.

From my knowledge, as a woman who has been happily married for the past 13 years, I know a little about porn. And it has nothing to do with immorality. Like I said, in a committed relationship, porn has been used to aid in repairing (without getting TMI with you) sexual relationships. I'm not speaking of those who delve into the genre of erotica to simply 'get off' but to learn what to do to keep things interesting in the bedroom. I don't pretend to know anything. There are some things I know about and some I don't. This, I know about.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

From my knowledge, as a woman who has been happily married for the past 13 years, I know a little about porn. And it has nothing to do with immorality. Like I said, in a committed relationship, porn has been used to aid in repairing (without getting TMI with you) sexual relationships. I'm not speaking of those who delve into the genre of erotica to simply 'get off' but to learn what to do to keep things interesting in the bedroom. I don't pretend to know anything. There are some things I know about and some I don't. This, I know about.

Erica, shut up.

[Imerica]

From my knowledge, as a woman who has been happily married for the past 13 years, I know a little about porn. And it has nothing to do with immorality. Like I said, in a committed relationship, porn has been used to aid in repairing (without getting TMI with you) sexual relationships. I'm not speaking of those who delve into the genre of erotica to simply 'get off' but to learn what to do to keep things interesting in the bedroom. I don't pretend to know anything. There are some things I know about and some I don't. This, I know about.

Erica, shut up.

If I was talking you might have a leg to stand on with that little comment, CF.

[Nic Brookes]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

Are you married?

No. As you are clearly pretending you have some kind of knowledge here, you would know all about porn. Please, do go on and show us all how immoral you are.

From my knowledge, as a woman who has been happily married for the past 13 years, I know a little about porn. And it has nothing to do with immorality. Like I said, in a committed relationship, porn has been used to aid in repairing (without getting TMI with you) sexual relationships. I'm not speaking of those who delve into the genre of erotica to simply 'get off' but to learn what to do to keep things interesting in the bedroom. I don't pretend to know anything. There are some things I know about and some I don't. This, I know about.

How can you repair a relationship with something so evil? By your logic, if you lose faith in Judaism/Christianity, you can regain it by watching muslims practice their "religion". Please explain to me how this differs.

[Imerica]

For couples, porn is used to keep the home-fires burning.

If they are not close enough as couples to keep these metaphorical fires burning, THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOGETHER, CERTAINLY NOT IN ANY KIND OF MARRIAGE.

Are you married?

No. As you are clearly pretending you have some kind of knowledge here, you would know all about porn. Please, do go on and show us all how immoral you are.

From my knowledge, as a woman who has been happily married for the past 13 years, I know a little about porn. And it has nothing to do with immorality. Like I said, in a committed relationship, porn has been used to aid in repairing (without getting TMI with you) sexual relationships. I'm not speaking of those who delve into the genre of erotica to simply 'get off' but to learn what to do to keep things interesting in the bedroom. I don't pretend to know anything. There are some things I know about and some I don't. This, I know about.

How can you repair a relationship with something so evil? By your logic, if you lose faith in Judaism/Christianity, you can regain it by watching muslims practice their "religion". Please explain to me how this differs.

We're not talking about religion, Nic. We're talking about porn. If in the wrong hands, porn can be a fixture in which a person could act out on innocent women and children but that's not the porn industry's fault... its the sick mind that attaches to it that is to blame. On the other hand, porn has its uses in some marriages. Its not the fixer-uper of choice for EVERYONE's marriage but for those who do use it in the marriage to 'help out' it works. The only thing is that it has to be a mutual decision to watch it. There are sex therapists who recommend porn or some kind of erotica when couples are having intimacy issues.

I'm a Christian who thought long and hard about what being a married, sexually active Christian would mean to me. That was a small part of me becoming Christian because couples are seen as people who are like robots for Jesus when it comes to intimacy with your spouse. What should you do, or not do; say or not say? So I've decided that whatever I need to do within the confines of my marriage to my husband to make things 'work', I'll do (and he agrees with this also.) We'll do everything short of adding a 3rd party to our marriage. (That, I dont' agree with... but to each his/her own.)