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Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« on: February 11, 2011, 02:03:09 AM »
This is a depressing analysis, but one I unfortunately agree with. Either through a total blunder, or through evil, Obama has unleashed an event which will reverberate for decades into the future. I feel vaguely like this is worse than 1979s Iranian revolution.

Obamas support for the expansion of Islam in the world is a dangerous precedent. Those 'young protesters' you see in the street are not your average peace loving citizens. According to this report they are more aligned with Islam and Sharia law than Obama is willing to admit...



http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/02/10/muslim-brotherhood-win/

Why the Muslim Brotherhood Will Win
By Doug Schoen
Published February 10, 2011 | FoxNews.com


With President Hosni Mubarak vowing to stay in power through the transition of government, the central question facing the Obama administration, and indeed the world, is what will happen when Mubarak does indeed leave and Egypt transitions to Democratic elections and a new government.

President Obama dramatically understated the level of support the Muslim Brotherhood has garnered in Egypt in his Super Bowl interview with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, and is most likely wrong to have asserted that the Brothers and their allies do not command majority support in the country.

While the Brotherhood now says that they don't plan to contest the presidential elections directly, that can always change. And the data suggests strongly that any candidate they back directly or indirectly would have a potentially decisive advantage. Moreover, there is every reason to believe they would win a decisive, if not dominant role, in Parliament and would be the key actors in selecting the next prime minister as well as setting the legislative agenda.

While very recent public opinion polling from Egypt is not currently available, a number of clear inferences about what is likely to happen can be drawn from prior surveys and prior election results.

The bottom line: there is at least a 50 percent chance, if not more, that a candidate from the Muslim Brotherhood or a party with a generally similar approach and orientation will win the next presidential election.

I draw this conclusion from a number of factors. First, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that support for the current regime is very limited to nonexistent. But the underlying structural issues present a more daunting challenge. Even before the fall of the Mubarak government, the Egyptian public was strongly aligned with fundamentalists and traditionalists, rather than modernizers who support a secular, pro-western tradition.

Put simply, Egyptians support Islam, its expanded role in the country's civic life, as well as Shariah.

A broad based analysis of Egyptian public opinion by Lisa Blaydes and Drew Linzerhow bears this conclusion out. They concluded that 60 percent of Egyptians have fundamentalist views, while just 20 percent are secular in their orientation.

Egyptians also support a more expansive role for Islam in Egyptian life. In Pew polling conducted last year, almost half (48 percent) say that Islam plays a large role in politics in Egypt, and an overwhelming majority – 85 percent – say Islam’s influence in politics is positive. Only 2 percent say its influence is negative. Not surprisingly, almost two-thirds of Egyptians told Zogby that Egyptian life would improve when clerics play a more central role in the political life of the country.

Egyptians also support the central elements of Shariah Law. For example, 84 percent say that apostates, or those who forsake Islam, should face the death penalty and 77 percent say thieves should have their hands cut off. A majority (54 percent) says men and women should be segregated in the workplace.

Further, the Egyptian people clearly support a political agenda that can only be described as radical. More than 7 in 10 said they were positive toward Iran getting nuclear weapons in a July 2010 Zogby Poll and close to 80 percent favor abrogating the Camp David accords with Israel.


A significant number of Egyptians are favorable to terrorist organizations, with close to half favorable to Hamas and one in five favorable to Al Qaeda.

Given this data it is no shock that the only group in Egyptian society that has any broad based support is the Muslim Brotherhood. Their leader, Muhammed Badi, has not surprisingly said the Koran should be law in Egypt and that jihad was essential. He also said that Israel and Zionism have to be resisted in every way possible with every resource at the disposal of the Egyptian people.

According to the most recent data available, the Egyptian people are strongly favorable towards the Muslim Brotherhood. A study conducted in 2009 by WorldPublicOpinion.org shows that 64 percent have positive views of the Muslim Brotherhood, while just 16 percent have negative views. Nineteen percent said they have mixed views. An even larger majority, 69 percent, believes that the Muslim Brotherhood favors democracy. Just 22 percent believe they are too extreme and not genuinely democratic.

There has never been any real support for Hosni Mubarak's National Democratic Party or any other secular party for that matter. Voter registration in Egypt has been relatively low with only about 25 percent  to 30 percent typically registering. And of that relatively small group of registrants, no more than one-third typically voted in the rigged elections that have been held for president and parliament over the past five years. That means that even in elections that were not even close to free and fair, the current regime probably won the support of less than 10 percent of Egyptians who bothered to register and vote for the governing party in elections elections.

Indeed, the only party to defy expectations was the Brotherhood, which managed to win 20 percent of the seats contested in the 2005 Parliamentary elections. That was the last time they had any sort of legitimate chance to compete for votes. And even then their candidates had to run as Independents to avoid running afoul of the government.

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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 03:00:10 AM »

But Muman, according to the Tanach, we must be heading toward the Gog and Magog war. So we should rejoice that the sons of Amalek are bringing forward the time of their destruction. It is likely that extraordinary events are unfolding right before our eyes. The crucial next step in G-d's hidden plan should be to bring true Kahanists to power in Israel so that when the Arab Nazis attack us again, they feel the pain and understand the price to pay for trying to spill Jewish blood.

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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 03:37:14 AM »
This is just another in a long long line of reasons why Israel should never let Iran develop nuclear bombs.  G-d forbid, but a strong alliance between Iran and Egypt could develop.  This Egyptian revolution is very bad news for Israel.  And they know it. 

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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 03:53:16 AM »
This is just another in a long long line of reasons why Israel should never let Iran develop nuclear bombs.  G-d forbid, but a strong alliance between Iran and Egypt could develop.  This Egyptian revolution is very bad news for Israel.  And they know it. 

Sure. And we can also add that Irak, with its Shi'a majority population, is likely to become a part of Iran when America has completed the withdrawal of her troops. And Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon are Iran's proxies at Israel's borders. This creates a hostile alliance including Egypt, Iran, Irak, Syria, Lebanon. Turkey might very well join in this alliance too.

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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 11:35:45 AM »
It is good and it all should happen before the half-life period passes it down to below criticality.
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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 03:31:10 PM »
Everyone with a modicum of brain knows that left to their own devices, quaranimals will choose evil. Every time. No analysis is required to know that most fundamental, least freedom-loving, most pro-shariah party will always win in a fair election. that is why one can not have a true and lasting peace with any muslime nation.
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Re: Devestating Analysis : The Muslim Brotherhood will win....
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 03:45:29 PM »
If now Egypt goes for any mischief, then with hypersonic missiles they will be blasted first and then their stunned ghosts will receive the warning signals.
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