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Shimona Esrei
Dr. Dan:
On the daily Amidah prayers after the Kedushah, there are additional prayers. Is it purposely done the specific order? If so, what's the reason behind it?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on February 21, 2011, 01:30:49 PM ---On the daily Amidah prayers after the Kedushah, there are additional prayers. Is it purposely done the specific order? If so, what's the reason behind it?
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I have a good book on the Amidah...
http://www.artscroll.com/Books/shmh.html
I believe that the prayers are said in a specific order, hence the name of the prayer book the Siddur/Order...
Let me see if I can find any mention of this on the Internet.
Chabad offers these classes on the meditations behind the davening:
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/956493/jewish/Jewish-Meditation.htm
muman613:
One rule which I seem to forget from time to time is this one... We are not supposed to interrupt anyone, or be interrupted, while davening Shemoneh Esrie...
http://torah.org/advanced/mishna-berura/S104.html
Siman 104 . Concerning the prohibition against interrupting the Amidah [Silent Prayer]
104:1. (1) One must not interrupt (2) one's own Silent Prayer. Even if a Jewish king greets him he should not answer. However, (3) with a non-Jewish king, if it is possible to complete the prayer by shortening it before the king reaches him, one should do so, by saying the beginning and ending of each remaining blessing. (4) Or, if it is possible to move to the side of the road and thereby avoid having to interrupt one's prayer [even though this means he moves from his position, which is ordinarily not allowed during the Silent Prayer - LC], one should do so. In any case, one should avoid speaking during one's prayer [i.e., one should use a non-verbal greeting], (5) but if that is impossible one should interrupt by speaking.
MB 1: One must not interrupt - Even a non-verbal gesture is forbidden, except in the case of a crying child, where it is permissible to gesture to him with his hands so that the child will quiet down and not disturb one's prayer. If such gestures don't work, one should distance oneself from the child, and not speak to him. Similarly, if a prominent person [most commonly the congregational rabbi -LC] is in the middle of the Silent Prayer and the communal prayer leader is waiting for him to finish before proceeding with Kaddish or Kedusha, the prominent person may gesture to the communal prayer leader that he should proceed without waiting for him. [Shaarei Teshuvah, by Rabbi Chayim Mordechai Margolis, published early 19th Cent.]
MB 2: One's own Silent Prayer - Even in a case where monetary loss is involved one may not interrupt. The Chayei Adam writes [Sec 25, Par.9] that if one is in the middle of the Silent Prayer and has a doubt about how he should pray, e.g., if he forgot part of the prayer [and the question is whether he needs to go back and if so to what point --LC], one is permitted to move from one's place to a particular place where one can consult a book containing the appropriate laws. It is not clear whether one is permitted in such a case to ask a question about how one should proceed with one's prayer, but it seems to the Chayei Adam that it is permissible.
MB 3: With a non-Jewish king - This also applies if one is accosted by a potentially violent person and one is afraid that he will kill him. [Presumably fear of significant injury suffices. -LC]
MB 4: Or, if it is possible - It is preferable to shorten one's prayer if possible than to move to the side of the road [Bach and Elyah Raba (by Rabbi Eliyahu Shapira, 17th-18th Cents.)]. But the Pri Megadim writes that this issue requires further study, since the implication of the Shulchan Aruch is that moving for the purpose of one's prayer [in this case so that it not be interrupted] does not constitute an interruption.
MB 5: But if that is impossible one should interrupt by speaking - That is, it is permissible even to initiate the greeting if he perceives that otherwise he may be in danger. It is certainly permissible to return a greeting in this situation [Elyah Raba].
Lawton Cooper
muman613:
Here are a bunch of good lectures on the Shemoneh Esrei...
http://torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Search/index.html?lecture=shemoneh&lecture_ID=
edu:
The Talmud in tractate Megilla pages 17b and 18a explains the reason for the order of Shimona Esrei.
Part of it has to do the stages of redemption, what comes first.
In any case at http://halakhah.com/pdf/moed/Megilah.pdf you can read an english translation of the talmud tractate Megilla and see for yourself the full explanation.
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