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Pope in new book: Don't blame Jews for Jesus' death
By LAHAV HARKOV
03/02/2011 16:00

Book describes last week of Jesus' life, contradicts Gospel's claim that Jews collaborated with Roman authorities.
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Pope Benedict XVI reiterated that the Jewish people are not responsible for Jesus' death in a new book released on Wednesday.

The Pope also denies the Gospel writers' claim that Jews working in the Temple collaborated with the Roman authorities, leading to Jesus' exectution.

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"Many readers will find this section of the book particularly interesting as the Pope reviews the historical positions taken about this," said Father Joseph Fessio, founder and publisher of Ignatius Press, the primary publisher of the Pope's books in the US. "He discusses some very controversial claims that have been made, and draws on some contemporary scholarly resources to reach a conclusion that I am certain will generate a lot of discussion."

The book, Jesus of Nazareth: Holy Week - From the Entrance Into Jerusalem to the Resurrection, a sequel to a previous book on Jesus' life, the Pope describes "the final week of Jesus' earthly life."
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 04:19:35 PM »
I don't believe a word that comes from the popes ugly mouth... Sorry about that..
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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 04:21:59 PM »
I don't believe a word that comes from the popes ugly mouth... Sorry about that..
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SORRY :) BUT HE'LL CATCH FROM THE TRADITIONALIST LIKE GIBSON AND OTHERS
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 04:22:53 PM »
Maybe this pope dude could tell his followers to stop attacking Israel like this..



http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=210246

The Vatican vs the ‘Zionist tsunami’
By GIULIO MEOTTI
02/28/2011 23:15


The slandering of Israel is growing at an alarming rate among the most important Catholic journalists.
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The January edition of La Civiltà Cattolica – the most authoritative magazine of the Jesuits, printed under the supervision of the Vatican – opens with an editorial about Palestinian refugees. Adopting the Arab propagandist word Nakba, it declares they are a consequence of “ethnic cleansing” by Israel. The journal also supports anti-Israeli historian Ilan Pappe, and falsely proclaims that “the Zionists were cleverly able to exploit the Western sense of guilt for the Shoah to lay the foundations of their own state.”

The Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, just joined an “interreligious meeting” in Doha, Qatar. Sponsored by the Arab League, the event occurred on Jerusalem, with the participation of “Christian and Muslim leaders.”

But no Jewish presence.

The slandering of Israel is growing among the most important Catholic journalists. Vittorio Messori, who conducted the first book-length interview with Pope John Paul II, recently wrote an editorial for the Italian daily Il Corriere della sera where he stated “All governments of all Muslim nations are under the tsunami of the violent intrusion of Zionism that has come to put its capital in Jerusalem.”

The Vatican’s teachings have a direct influence on 1.166 billion people. To understand its new mood about Israel, one has only to read what happened in the special synod on the Middle East, hosted in Rome. Nothing was said about Islamist persecution of Christians; indeed, every effort was made to show the Catholic Church sympathetic to Muslim grievances, especially against “Zionism” – a word evoked as a symbol of evil.

Archbishop Edmond Farhat – the official representative of Vatican politics – proclaimed that the ultimate cause of all the evils in the Middle East is that “foreign body” which is Israel: “The Middle Eastern situation today is like a living organ that has been subject to a graft it cannot assimilate and which has no specialists capable of healing it”.

US Archbishop Salim Bustros wrote the final message of the synod, claiming that the Jewish Promised Land had been “nullified by Christ,” thus reviving the infamous replacement theology that played a great role in the Holocaust. Bustros also claimed that the Bible can’t be used to justify the “occupation” of the West Bank, attempting to sever any link between the Jewish people and its homeland.
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 04:24:56 PM »
I know i posted it yesterday you're right                     http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,53518.0.html
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 04:39:31 PM »
I don't care what the Pope says and If anyone needs the pope to stop hating Jews for "Christ Killing" than he will find other reasons to continue with his hatred.

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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 05:24:08 PM »
I never understood the Christ-killer phenomenon that occurs in some Christian churches. Had Christ not been crucified, Christians wouldn't have a faith... So what are they mad about? Jesus told his followers not to blame or hate those who persecuted him, so whether it was Roman, Jew or otherwise it really doesn't matter. It's an interesting contradiction. They'll say they believe Jesus died for their sins, but they're mad he was killed at the same time. If you're a Christian, you believe Jesus was crucified for that purpose. Would these Christ-killer retards prefer Jesus die in his sleep of old age some point later down the road? I'd bet their church would be a lot smaller if that had happened, and in the eyes of most Christians that would make little sense.
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Re: POPE DENIES GOSPEL CLAIMS THAT JEWS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATH OF JESUS
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 03:54:48 AM »
My understanding, is that this particular pope in his youth was literally part of the German Nazi movement and feels sensitive of accusations thrown at him as being an anti-semite.
Therefore, he is channeling traditional Jewish Hatred into a newer and more effective direction of Anti-Zionism and anti-Temple feelings.
So now the bad guys in his eyes are the Jews connected to the Second Temple and by extension Zionists and in particular religious Zionists.
The Secular Terrorist PLO organization also came to the conclusion, that Salami tactics attacking only parts of the Jewish people, piece by piece would be more effective to their ultimate ends.
Now its the Pope's turn at Salami tactics.
It's true you could interpret the Pope otherwise. But it is praiseworthy to judge wicked men like him as having bad intentions until there is absolute proof to the contrary.