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This is not news. I have been saying this for weeks since we first heard that there was so-called reconciliation between Hamas and the rival Fatah factions. There will never be any peace with the 'palistinians' because Hamas REFUSES to recognize the Jewish state. It is impossible to have peace with people who want to kill you. The leader of Hamas also admitted that any appearance of acceptance of Israel is only Taqiya in order to prepare for the complete destruction of Israel.

Anyone who tries to tell you that Israel needs to work with the so-called 'peace partners' must be smoking some pretty heavy dope.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144085

Hamas Admits 'Peace Accord' is a Prelude to War
Iyar 7, 5771, 11 May 11 07:26
by Gavriel Queenann


(Israelnationalnews.com) Hamas co-founder Mahmoud Zahar on Wednesday told the Maan news agency Hamas would never recognize Israel.

Saying Hamas would accept a PA state based on the "1967 borders," Zahar made it clear a peace accord would only serve as a prelude to Israel's destruction.

Zahar, who has served as Hamas' foreign minister in Gaza since 2006, said Hamas would not recognize Israel because doing so would "cancel the right of the next generation to liberate the land."

"If the Palestinian state does not encompass all of Israel the next generation will liberate the land," Zahar said.

Zahar added recognition of Israel could lead to a de facto cancellation of the "right of return" - a term Arabs use when demanding that Israel allow millions of Arabs into Haifa, Tel Aviv and the rest of its cities and communities.

"What will be the fate of the five million Palestinians in the diaspora?" Zahar asked.

Zahar told Maan his faction's unity deal with Fatah, which included maintaining a ceasefire with Israel, is "part of the resistance, not a cancellation."

“A truce is not peace," Zahar said.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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In case anyone is wondering about what Hamas means, it is a Hebrew word which means violent criminals or violent crime. It appears to me that Hamas is an apropos name for a terrorist organization and a gang of thugs hell-bent on destroying all that is good in the world.

Death to Hamas!



 http://www.jewishmag.com/42mag/hamas/hamas.htm

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Terror and Religion, the Mixture of Hamas

Hamas is a Hebrew word and an Islamist Fudamentalist terror organization. In Hebrew, the word Hamas means violent criminals or violent crimes. In the Arab world, it is an accronym for a terrorist group. Its their name to their group, not our name for them, yet the meaning is the same: Religious fanaticism who believes that the murder of the enemies of the religion, (the Hamas movement) is a justifiable act.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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HUDNA!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudna
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Hudna (هدنة) is an Arabic term meaning a temporary "truce" or "armistice" as well as "calm" or "quiet", coming from a verbal root meaning "calm". It is sometimes translated as "cease-fire". In the Lisan al-Arab (Ibn al-Manzur's definitive dictionary of classical Arabic, dating to the 14th century) it is defined as follows:

    "hadana: he grew quiet. hadina: he quieted (transitive or intransitive). haadana: he made peace with. The noun from each of these is hudna."

A particularly famous early hudna was the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah between Muhammad and the Quraysh tribe.

According to Umdat as-Salik, a medieval summary of Shafi'i jurisprudence, hudnas with a non-Muslim enemy should be limited to 10 years: "if Muslims are weak, a truce may be made for ten years if necessary, for the Prophet made a truce with the Quraysh for that long, as is related by Abu Dawud" ('Umdat as-Salik, o9.16).[citation needed]

Taqiya!!

http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/Islam-8-al-Taqiyya.htm

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   Islam and jihad
    8) The principle of al-Taqiyya

   "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible...and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory."

    -- Abu Hammid Ghazali

   "Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."

    - Hadith 5.59.369
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Hamas are sneaky criminals who even slaughter their own brethren,not that i really care
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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And suppose Hamas did recognize Israel?  What if Hamas said, "We have now decided that the time has come to recognize Israel and it's right to exist."  What fool would believe their lying words?  What fool would act differently towards Hamas?  What fool would believe that their lying words mean nothing and that their aim is to give Israeli's false security and false hope while at the same time planning Israel's eventual destruction?  Please!

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Yes, it is true there is no trustworthy partner to talk to or negotiate with.

But what if there were ?

Israel should avoid falling into the trap of finding itself in the position of being seen as ready and willing to make 'painful concessions' if there were a trustworthy peace partner.

Although it is an expedient tactic to point out there is no one to negotiate with, Israel's bottom line must remain there is nothing to negotiate about.

The Land of Israel must be considered non-negotiable.

Israel should never vacilate on this issue.

Israel should never bow to world pressure or fear being perceived as intransigent.

Why give the impression that should a true peace partner exist, Israel would be willing to surrender that which is her birthright ?

The observant Orthodox Jews should already understand this. They should be opposed to any 'negotiations' over the Land of Israel based on Torah mandate.

Secular Jews should realize that Israel's tiny geographical size amidst an ocean of implacable enemies makes any 'concessions' impossible and suicidal.

When all of Israel proclaims 'there is no one to talk with, and what's more, there's nothing to talk about', then Israel will be doing what is right and dealing from a position of strength.