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Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« on: September 05, 2011, 02:05:05 PM »
I have not read the entire article yet and the article title is what got me interested in it. But it explains what many here at JTF have said many times that Nazism was not Right-Wing in ideology but it was National Socialism which led to the rise of Hitler. The left has attempted to rewrite history by painting Hitler and the Nazis as rightwing maniacs. But the truth is far from what these left-wing moonbats are teaching in their classes.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/billflax/2011/09/01/obama-hitler-and-exploding-the-biggest-lie-in-history/

Obama, Hitler, And Exploding The Biggest Lie In History

“The line between fascism and Fabian socialism is very thin. Fabian socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian socialism plus the inevitable dictator.” John T. Flynn

Numerous commentators have raised alarming comparisons between America’s recent economic foibles and Argentina’s fall “from breadbasket to basket case.” The U.S. pursues a similar path with her economy increasingly ensnared under the growing nexus of government control. Resources are redistributed for vote-buying welfare schemes, patronage style earmarks, and graft by unelected bureaucrats, quid pro quo with unions, issue groups and legions of lobbyists.

In Argentina, everyone acknowledges that fascism, state capitalism, corporatism – whatever – reflects very leftwing ideology. Eva Peron remains a liberal icon. President Obama’s Fabian policies (Keynesian economics) promise similar ends. His proposed infrastructure bank is just the latest gyration of corporatism. Why then are fascists consistently portrayed as conservatives?

In the Thirties, intellectuals smitten by progressivism considered limited, constitutional governance anachronistic. The Great Depression had apparently proven capitalism defunct. The remaining choice had narrowed between communism and fascism. Hitler was about an inch to the right of Stalin. Western intellectuals infatuated with Marxism thus associated fascism with the Right.

Later, Marxists from the Frankfurt School popularized this prevailing sentiment. Theodor Adorno in The Authoritarian Personality devised the “F” scale to demean conservatives as latent fascists. The label “fascist” has subsequently meant anyone liberals seek to ostracize or discredit.


Fascism is an amorphous ideology mobilizing an entire nation (Mussolini, Franco and Peron) or race (Hitler) for a common purpose. Leaders of industry, science, education, the arts and politics combine to shepherd society in an all encompassing quest. Hitler’s premise was a pure Aryan Germany capable of dominating Europe.

While he feinted right, Hitler and Stalin were natural bedfellows. Hitler mimicked Lenin’s path to totalitarian tyranny, parlaying crises into power. Nazis despised Marxists not over ideology, but because they had betrayed Germany in World War I and Nazis found it unconscionable that German communists yielded fealty to Slavs in Moscow.

The National Socialist German Workers Party staged elaborate marches with uniformed workers calling one another “comrade” while toting tools the way soldiers shoulder rifles. The bright red Nazi flag symbolized socialism in a “classless, casteless” Germany (white represents Aryanism). Fascist central planning was not egalitarian, but it divvied up economic rewards very similarly to communism: party membership and partnering with the state.

Where communists generally focused on class, Nazis fixated on race. Communists view life through the prism of a perpetual workers’ revolution. National Socialists used race as a metaphor to justify their nation’s engagement in an existential struggle.

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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 03:09:35 PM »
I have not read the entire article yet and the article title is what got me interested in it. But it explains what many here at JTF have said many times that Nazism was not Right-Wing in ideology but it was National Socialism which led to the rise of Hitler. The left has attempted to rewrite history by painting Hitler and the Nazis as rightwing maniacs. But the truth is far from what these left-wing moonbats are teaching in their classes.





Fascism is a mixture of right-wing nationalism and a bit of capitalism with socialist government control. Under Fascism the people are rallied under the flag of nationalism, and the economy is organized under monopoly corporations that have government approval.

That being said what is this obsession with people here to protect the phrase "right-wing". JTF is not simply a right-wing, but a JEWISH movement. The term "right-wing" and "left-wing" are political terms that came from the French revolution, and are European concepts. If you go to China the "conservatives" are old-time Moaist communists, and the "liberals" are those who favor economic deregulation. Judaism is not Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations or John Lock's Treatises on Government, but it is the Torah and the Talmud, which doesn't fit neatly into a right-wing or left-wing philosophy.
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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 03:24:38 PM »
Nazism is a mix of both left and right. It does incorporate Marxist-style government control and and a totalitarian state which is a left-wing concept. But the main thing that makes Nazism dreaded compared to Italy under Mussolini is Ultranationalism and "Aryan" Racial Supremacy.

Right-wing nationalism is usually good for being patriotic of one's country but can be evil if taken to the extreme like when Hirohito's Japan butchered 15 million Chinese, Koreans, and other Asians just because they were differnet.

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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 03:35:10 PM »
Socialism and Fascism both start with the assumption that the State is superior to the citizen and that the state rules the citizen rather than ruling with the consent of the citizen.
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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 05:57:54 PM »
The Nazism is almost like Communism for WN's 
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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 08:45:03 PM »
Socialism and Fascism both start with the assumption that the State is superior to the citizen and that the state rules the citizen rather than ruling with the consent of the citizen.
Fascism (Mussolini) and Communism (Lenin/Stalin) are very similar and both left-wing because they both incorporate government control and virtually enslave their populations with suppression of freedom of speech and religion.

But Nazism inserted the concept of Racism and Ultranationalism into the picture like when they determine so-called "non-Aryan" races of being inferior. So we can say that Nazism is basically a form of left and toxic right.

As I said, right-wing positions (free market, patriotism, and conservatism) are generally what is best for a country. But the left tries to paint a dark and terrible image of it by comparing it to Nazism. That's why they call Wilders and Tancredo "Nazis" even though they never judge on the basis of race like Hitler did.

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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 08:52:44 PM »
Fascism (Mussolini) and Communism (Lenin/Stalin) are very similar and both left-wing because they both incorporate government control and virtually enslave their populations with suppression of freedom of speech and religion.

But Nazism inserted the concept of Racism and Ultranationalism into the picture like when they determine so-called "non-Aryan" races of being inferior. So we can say that Nazism is basically a form of left and toxic right.

As I said, right-wing positions (free market, patriotism, and conservatism) are generally what is best for a country. But the left tries to paint a dark and terrible image of it by comparing it to Nazism. That's why they call Wilders and Tancredo "Nazis" even though they never judge on the basis of race like Hitler did.

While you are right that Naziism was focused on the make-beleive 'Aryan Race', libralism DOES use race in a similar way but its not nearly as significant.

Naziis justified anti-Jewish laws based upon wacko conspiracies of Jewish bankers, etc keeping down the hard working Aryan German.

Modern Liberal racist blacks use the same nonsense, saying that the evil white/jew banks, corporations, schools, etc conspire to keep down blacks so anti-white/yellow laws have been created by the government.   Obioussly, its not nearly as bad as Naziism, but its the same nonsense.

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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 09:28:05 PM »
While you are right that Naziism was focused on the make-beleive 'Aryan Race', libralism DOES use race in a similar way but its not nearly as significant.

Naziis justified anti-Jewish laws based upon wacko conspiracies of Jewish bankers, etc keeping down the hard working Aryan German.

Modern Liberal racist blacks use the same nonsense, saying that the evil white/jew banks, corporations, schools, etc conspire to keep down blacks so anti-white/yellow laws have been created by the government.   Obioussly, its not nearly as bad as Naziism, but its the same nonsense.

You're right, MmHmmism does support leftist policies like Afirmative action and uses the same shtick against whites but only 1% compared to how Nazism blames the Jews. So Black panthers also have a similar ideology against Whites and Jews. Funny if the word 'Panther' refers to the tank of the beasts who would also kill them.

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Re: Interesting Article about Similarities of Nazism and Socialism
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 02:40:36 AM »
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