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Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« on: October 30, 2011, 06:04:29 PM »

"I met this weekend with someone close to the case of Yigal Amir's brother, Chagai.

Yigal Amir is infamous for the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on 4th November 1995. Yigal's story and occasional antics occupy many column inches, particularly as the November memorial season comes around.

His brother, Chagai, however, has been almost totally forgotten.

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2011, 06:16:10 PM »
Um...

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2011, 06:33:17 PM »
And would you mind telling us Yigals brothers story.... I have not heard...
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 06:49:04 PM »
"I met this weekend with someone close to the case of Yigal Amir's brother, Chagai.

Yigal Amir is infamous for the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin on 4th November 1995. Yigal's story and occasional antics occupy many column inches, particularly as the November memorial season comes around.

His brother, Chagai, however, has been almost totally forgotten.

In parallel to Yigal's conviction and life sentence for Rabin's murder, Chagai was sentenced to 16 years for conspiring to murder and various arms related charges.

According to my source, Chagai has been kept in total solitary confinement in the Ayalon Prison for the past 16 years. He has no TV, radio, rare visitors and even the guards are not allowed to talk with him. His cell is 4 x 4 metres. He once over the past 16 years met with his brother Amir, to study together, for half an hour.
 
These terms of imprisonment are considerably harsher, for example, than for the Arab terrorists, a few cells down, who murdered literally tens of Israelis in bus and cafe bombings.

Chagai's sole source of stimulation is his seforim. Apparently Chagai has a self-imposed regime of davening/praying at dawn, learning the daf yomi, studying and memorizing whole tractates of Talmud, and repeatedly reviewing the mishna, Zohar, Rambam and other key Jewish sources.

His lawyer is the only person allowed regular visits to Chagai, which consist of three hour study sessions together, once a week. These visits are closely monitored, and they are not allowed to discuss or communicate anything aside from the texts they are studying.

Apparently, a US research group from California has undertaken a worldwide study of prisoners kept in solitary confinement and universally found that prisoners rapidly degenerate physically, mentally and emotionally. The study highlighted Chagai Amir as remarkable and exceptional for his soundness of mind and good spirits. The report linked this with the stimulation Chagai obtains from studying Talmud.

This 16 year sentence is almost up, and Chagai Amir is up for release.

However, apparently the Shabak (Security Services) have submitted a classified report, recommending that Chagai remains in prison beyond his full sentence.

My source indicated that Chagai has much to say about the story of the Rabin assassination itself, and will add substantially to the conspiracy industry which still surrounds the Rabin assassination, as much as the JFK assassination.  "This is why the Shabbak are making strenuous efforts against Chagai's release."

As for when the public will hear the "true account" of the much debated assassination, my source reckoned we will have to wait a further thirty years.
Posted by David Morris"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagai_Amir
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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 07:14:08 PM »
Very interesting... What was the brothers involvement in the crime? I never heard about the brother...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 07:24:33 PM »
Very interesting... What was the brothers involvement in the crime? I never heard about the brother...



What "crime"?

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 07:25:30 PM »
I heard that he was involved, but nothing in detail. I will (Bli Neder, I hope I remember) keep him in my prayers as well. I also hope and expect him to be a great leading figure in our generation (unless the bolshevics arrest and extend his sentence). He will be similar to Rashbi when he comes out and his words will be (are) words of fire and Holiness. I hope he becomes a great leading figure especially with his great involvement in the Talmudh in the cell, and his prior dealings and ways.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 09:28:24 PM »
Let's also keep in mind whom wonga is plagiarizing when he writes these things.

Modify:  Actually I apologize, I take that back.  I thought this was another from the Chamish conspiracy pages.   The source for this article IS actually credible!

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 10:23:08 PM »
I never plagiarize, and always give full attribution and quotation marks.

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Re: Chagai Amir: not one of their's, nor one of their's
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 10:48:24 PM »
I never plagiarize, and always give full attribution and quotation marks.

Ok.