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Activist Judges in California once again tell people that their votes mean absolutely nothing

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/02/07/150967/

Same-sex couple Richard Yoder (R) and William Rackin (L) of New York exchange vows during their wedding ceremony October 15, 2008 at City Hall in San Francisco (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)
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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday that Proposition 8, California’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, is unconstitutional because it violates the 14th Amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law.

But backers of the controversial, voter-approved law quickly signaled that they planned to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The court ruled 2-1 to uphold the decision of a lower court judge, U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker of San Francisco, who determined in Aug. 2010 that Prop. 8 was a violation of the civil rights of gays and lesbians. The panel also rejected claims that Walker, now retired, was biased in his ruling because he is gay and in a long-term relationship with another man.



“Although the Constitution permits communities to enact most laws they believe to be desirable, it requires that there be at least a legitimate reason for the passage of a law that treats different classes of people differently. There was no such reason that Proposition 8 could have been enacted,” the ruling stated.
Judge Stephen Reinhardt, the author of the majority opinion, went on to write: “Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples. The Constitution simply does not allow for laws of this sort.”

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Reihardt, who was appointed to the appeals court by President Jimmy Carter, was joined in the majority opinion by Judge Michael Hawkins, an appointee of President Bill Clinton.

Judge Randy Smith, who was appointed by President George W. Bush, dissented, saying he disagreed that Prop. 8 served no purpose other than to treat gays and lesbians as second-class citizens.

KCBS’ Doug Sovern Reports:

Prop. 8 Ruled Unconstitutional
Tuesday’s ruling did not mean, however, that gay marriages would resume in California anytime soon as the decision of the three judges appeared to pave the way for a likely Supreme Court showdown over the issue.

“No court should presume to redefine marriage. No court should undercut the democratic process by taking the power to preserve marriage out of the hands of the people,” Brian Raum, one of the lawyers hired to defend Prop. 8, said in an e-mail sent to CBS San Francisco.

“We are not surprised that this Hollywood-orchestrated attack on marriage — tried in San Francisco — turned out this way. But we are confident that the expressed will of the American people in favor of marriage will be upheld at the Supreme Court,” Raum added.



Margaret Russell, a professor of constitutional law at Santa Clara University School of Law, told CBS San Francisco that the Supreme Court did not need a conflicting circuit-court decision in order to take up the case, but rather just four justices who deem it worthy of review.
Prop. 8 passed with 52 percent of the vote in 2008 and outlawed same-sex marriages just five months after they became legal in California. Two same-sex couples then brought a lawsuit in 2009 seeking to overturn the measure.

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American Foundation for Equal Rights President Chad Griffin, who formed the legal team that waged the court battle on behalf of the two couples, called the three-judge panel’s ruling “a historic victory.”

More than 150 people who gathered outside the federal courthouse at Mission and Seventh streets in downtown San Francisco also greeted ruling with cheers. They held signs and waved rainbow flags.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris hailed the decision too. In a statement sent to CBS San Francisco, she called it “a victory for fairness, a victory for equality and a victory for justice.”

The Attorney General’s Office had declined to defend Prop. 8 in court, leaving it in the hands of proponents of the measure to mount a defense, after concluding that the law could not be defended on constitutional grounds.

Gov. Jerry Brown, who also refused to defend the measure, issued a statement in which he said, “The court has rendered a powerful affirmation of the right of same-sex couples to marry. I applaud the wisdom and courage of this decision.”




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Yes, and the law oppresses those who want to marry their pets... Soon the courts will rule in favor of inter-species marriages also.... This is a very wicked thing, and a pock on America...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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I think the judges basically ruled that the people shouldn't have the freedom to self govern (aka democracy) because the "freedom" for homosexual to be recognized as married trumps democracy.

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Im livid. I was a proponent of Prop 8 and supported it... I cant believe a state which instituted the Proposition system so that the people of the state could make these kinds of decisions they have so callously shown that our vote means absolutely nothing. I am so tired of the 'fantasy of democracy' here in America. When the will of the people are over-turned for perverted special interest groups it is clear that Democracy in America is a farce...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Im livid. I was a proponent of Prop 8 and supported it... I cant believe a state which instituted the Proposition system so that the people of the state could make these kinds of decisions they have so callously shown that our vote means absolutely nothing. I am so tired of the 'fantasy of democracy' here in America. When the will of the people are over-turned for perverted special interest groups it is clear that Democracy in America is a farce...



Judges have done this to all 3 of the 'right of center' propositions.... even though all 3 had majority support.
proposition 187 - overturned   (stopped benefits for illegals)
proposition 209 - overturned   (stopped race based affirmative action)
proposition 8   -  overturned   (protected traditional marriage)

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as much as i never understood the anti-gay cause, this is just ridiculous.

nowhere does it say people have the right to marry and its up to the states to determine the definition of a marriage that they are going to recognize.

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Earthquake predictions anyone?
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Earthquake predictions anyone?

We have earthquakes every day.... This is not just a CA issue... I hear that in New Jersey they are considering same sex marriage... Hurricane predictions anyone?

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This is NOT about judges making their decisions based upon constitutionality.  This is about judges cherry picking the propositions that have passed that are not 'progressive' in their eyes. 

Proposition 187, 209, and 8 have NOTHING in common other than they are all right of center.