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Offline briann

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This is where you are wrong.  You cannot say "temple/churches" (really you meant synagogue not temple) because they are not the same and we view them as antithesis.  To us (Jews) churches are in the same category as hindu shrines and buddhist whatchamacallits.  None of it is in worship of the one true G-d (no people or items).

This is precisely the Jewish perspective on all forms of Christianity.  It was a completely new ideology (when it formed many years ago), and it is not based on a valid religious book (we do not accept the new testament and we consider it to have no validity at all).

The only distinction to draw would be the use of the word "cult" which in modern parlance does not just mean a religion but has a definition with very specific qualities to it and usually involves some kind of illegal behavior or somehow isolating a person and indoctrinating them (ok that's vague but to give an example - scientology).  So yeah christianity is not considered a "cult" by that definition of the term used today for coercive weirdo groups, but that's not what he meant when he said man-made cults.  He was using the word cult as a term for a fake religion.  Believing Jews consider all other religions fake religions.

Correct me if Im wrong, but Ive never heard another jew refer to Christianity or even Hinduism or Budism as a cult.

Nor have I ever heard a Christian call Judaism a cult... except if they were some wacko Nazi group.

WHY IS THAT????    Because Christians DONT believe Judaism is a cult.... they obviously think its false (otherwise they wouldnt be Christians)... but they DONT think its a cult.

Cult's don't mean a religion that is different from ours.

Cult is a derogatory term, reserved for idologies and movements that  engage in crazy behavior that have no basis in religion.   Thats why the gentiles here refer to Mormonism as a cult but they dont refer to major religions as a cult. 

Again, cult's don't mean a religion that is different from ours.

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briann,

I don't know where you got your definition of cult but according to Miriam-Websters this usage is correct:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult
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Definition of CULT
1 : formal religious veneration : worship

2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents

3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents

4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>

5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad
    b : the object of such devotion
    c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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