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How evil was IBM? Complicity with the Nazis in WWII
« on: February 26, 2012, 11:17:12 PM »
I am listening to Tamar Yonahs show from today.... I am learning just how much IBM was involved with processing Jews at death camps. I am ashamed that my father had an IBM 'THINK" logo on his desk when I was a kid... This company is wicked and has never apologized for its involvement with exterminating Jews...


http://ibmandtheholocaust.com/

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/3803#.T0sAB95SQYo

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Tamar speaks with Edwin Black on the IBM's role in the Nazi's Final Solution plan to commit genocide on the Jewish People.  He is putting out a new global edition with photos and government documents for the public to see at a conference at Yeshiva University and LIVE on the internet.

Shifra Hoffman talks to Tamar about the lack of Jewish sovereignty on the Temple Mount and the need for Jewish unity and Aliyah.


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Re: How evil was IBM? Complicity with the Nazis in WWII
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 11:20:02 PM »
Wiki gives the background to Edwin Blacks explanation of IBMs involvement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

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Origins of IBM
Black begins his study with the origins of IBM. In the early 1880s, Herman Hollerith (1860-1929), a young employee at the U.S. Census Bureau, conceived of the idea of creating readable cards with standardized perforations, each representing specific individual traits such as gender, nationality, and occupation. The millions of cards created for each individual counted in the national census could then be sorted and resorted on the basis of specific bits of information they contained — thereby providing a quantified portrait of the nation.[3]

Hollerith built a prototype of his counting machine in 1884 and later won a contest for the best automated counting device conducted by the Census Bureau in conjunction with its 1890 census.[4] The Census Bureau saved $5 million through use of Hollerith counting machines — about one-third of its annual budget — and Hollerith and his patented invention gained international renown and customers around the world.[5]

By the turn of the 20th Century, Hollerith and his Tabulating Machine Company had achieved near-monopoly status. A rival arose in the next decade, however, and the U.S. Census Bureau abandoned its use of the more costly and slower Hollerith machines for its 1910 census. A disconsolate Hollerith licensed out his patents abroad. In 1910, the German licensee Willy Heidinger established the Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft (German Hollerith Machine Corporation), commonly known by the acronym "Dehomag."[6]

The next year, Hollerith sold his American business to industrialist Charles Flint (1850-1934) for $1.41 million.[7] The counting machine operation was made part of a new conglomerate called the Computing-Tabulating-Recording Company (CTR).[7]

To head this massive new enterprise, Flint chose Thomas J. Watson (1874-1956), the star salesman of the National Cash Register Corporation. Watson was initially paid $25,000 per year — a substantial salary in the day — plus 1200 shares of stock and a commission of 5% of CTR's after-tax, after-dividends profits.[8]

The German hyperinflation of 1922-1923 made it impossible for Dehomag, the German licensee of CTR's technology, to make its scheduled royalty payments to America, with its balance in arrears topping the $100,000 mark.[9] Threatened with bankruptcy and complete loss of his investment, Dehomag chief Willy Heidinger agreed to transfer 90% of the stock in his company to Watson's CTR as a means of settling his debt.[10] The German licensee Dehomag thus became a direct subsidiary of the American corporation CTR.[11]

In 1924, following the death or departure of several key figures in the company, Watson assumed the role of Chief Executive Officer of CTR and renamed the now-focused company International Business Machines (IBM).

[edit]IBM business relations with the Nazi regime
The bulk of Black's book details the ongoing business relationship between Watson's IBM and the emerging German regime headed by Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). Hitler came to power in January 1933; on March 20 of that same year he established a concentration camp for political prisoners in the Bavarian town of Dachau, just outside the city of Munich. Repression against political opponents and the country's substantial ethnic Jewish population began at once. By April 1933, some 60,000 had been imprisoned.[12]

Despite the violent and repressive climate emerging in the new ultra-nationalist Germany, business relations between IBM and the Hitler regime continued uninterrupted in the face of broad international calls for an economic boycott.[13] Indeed, Willy Heidinger, who remained in control of Dehomag, the 90%-owned German subsidiary of IBM, was an enthusiastic supporter of the Hitler regime.[14]

On April 12, 1933, the German government announced the plans to immediately conduct a long-delayed national census.[15] The project was particularly important to the Nazis as a mechanism for the identification of Jews, Gypsies, and other ethnic groups deemed undesirable by the regime. Dehomag offered to actively assist the German government in its task of ethnic identification, concentrating first upon the 41 million residents of Prussia.[16]

This activity was not only countenanced by Thomas Watson and IBM in America, Black argues, but was actively encouraged and financially supported, with Watson himself traveling to Germany in October 1933 and the company ramping up its investment in its German subsidiary from 400,000 to 7,000,000 reichsmarks — about $1 million.[17] This injection of American capital allowed Dehomag to purchase land in Berlin and to construct IBM's first factory in Germany, Black charges, thereby "tooling up for what it correctly saw as a massive financial relationship with the Hitler regime."[17]

Black also asserts that a "secret deal" was made between Heidinger and Watson during the latter's visit to Germany which allowed Dehomag commercial powers outside of Germany, enabling the "now Nazified" company to "circumvent and supplant" various national subsidiaries and licensees by "soliciting and delivering punch card solution technology directly to IBM customers in those territories."[18] As a result, Nazi Germany soon became the second most important customer of IBM after the lucrative US market, Black notes.[19]
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: How evil was IBM? Complicity with the Nazis in WWII
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 11:42:31 PM »
I often wondered why the NAZIS were so efficient in knowing where all their victims were!  IBM MANZERS! >:(

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Re: How evil was IBM? Complicity with the Nazis in WWII
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 07:41:24 AM »
The updated version of the IBM cards will be the Verichips. It can be linked to a lot more information than the old technologies that were around then about a person including their medical and financial records in addition to their personal profiles.

One version of Obama Care included the phrase "class II implantable device". Apparently this is not in the current version but we need to be vigilant, it could be re-introduced at any time.

I've got 29k views on my video about this and climbing, people want to know about this:


If there is another Holocaust, then these will likely be used to keep track of people rather than tattooing numbers.

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Re: How evil was IBM? Complicity with the Nazis in WWII
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 08:50:47 AM »

Well, your father really didn't know. Shouldn't place blame on him.

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