Finding a Virgin to Marry!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Observant Jews are prohibited from having intimate relations two weeks out of each month.

Yes, I know that. But Yacov said that non-procreative intercourse is forbidden for everybody (Gentiles included). So, by his standards, is it sinful for a married couple past childbearing age to make love?

[jdl4ever]

I don't know if these Rabbinical restrictions apply to Gentiles plus I think kissing is permitted. 

[Yantan]

Sorry i have just looked at what i posted in the early hours of the morning, and could i just clarify that i did not mean i have had sexual relationships with gentile men  - just to clarify that!

[Yantan]

While i'm here then i have a question that a person who i met on this forum has asked me to pass on....

"This question of oral sex is fascinating.  I had always thought that having sex with one's partner was one of the joys of Judaism and one thing that set Judaism apart from the puritanism of other religions.  It is a holy thing to spend a Sabbath having sex with the person you are married to.  I see no prohibitions against engaging in forms of sexual activity if you are married to that person.  Can anyone point out the sources that say you should not touch your partner's genitals with your mouth? "

Ok well there you go, am not feeling to great today think i might go get some fruit....

[nessuno]

While i'm here then i have a question that a person who i met on this forum has asked me to pass on....

"This question of oral sex is fascinating.  I had always thought that having sex with one's partner was one of the joys of Judaism and one thing that set Judaism apart from the puritanism of other religions.  It is a holy thing to spend a Sabbath having sex with the person you are married to.  I see no prohibitions against engaging in forms of sexual activity if you are married to that person.  Can anyone point out the sources that say you should not touch your partner's genitals with your mouth? "

Ok well there you go, am not feeling to great today think i might go get some fruit....

Fruit(otl) Alert! - I think Yantan is getting some fruit in Scotland.

[Ari]

Very interesting posts.

[Dexter]

While i'm here then i have a question that a person who i met on this forum has asked me to pass on....

"This question of oral sex is fascinating.  I had always thought that having sex with one's partner was one of the joys of Judaism and one thing that set Judaism apart from the puritanism of other religions.  It is a holy thing to spend a Sabbath having sex with the person you are married to.  I see no prohibitions against engaging in forms of sexual activity if you are married to that person.  Can anyone point out the sources that say you should not touch your partner's genitals with your mouth? "

Ok well there you go, am not feeling to great today think i might go get some fruit....

Fruit(otl) Alert! - I think Yantan is getting some fruit in Scotland.

evryone over here is FOTL 

[whywhywhy]

it is sp easy to be a virgin again. It is better to find a "neshama"

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Yantan, you are absolutely right. If you believe that all that G-d made is good and holy, then it doesn't make sense to consider certain body parts evil.

[cosmokramer]

In our society you have a 5 percent chance of finding a virgin.

[newman]

Every time I go out looking for a virgin to marry the coppers chase me away from the high school!

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

Ari, if you don't mind, what is your ethnical background?

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

Yantan, you are absolutely right. If you believe that all that G-d made is good and holy, then it doesn't make sense to consider certain body parts evil.

C.F., it doesn't matter what, but how.

There are no evil body parts, there is evil application of those parts.

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

Oral sex is very debauching to men and especially to women, if they had not been previously debauched.

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

Sorry i have just looked at what i posted in the early hours of the morning, and could i just clarify that i did not mean i have had sexual relationships with gentile men  - just to clarify that!

Yantan, are you male or female?

[cosmokramer]

All I am going to say is this, I am not a virgin sorry to say. I respect and admire those who are. But as for finding as virgin to marry, you have to look in the Religious Jewish community. Or the Bible believing Christian communities for our rightious Gentiles. I will not marry a Virgin, for one simple reason. I am not one and I have no right to now. The ideal situation is to have two virgins on their wedding night.

[nessuno]

While i'm here then i have a question that a person who i met on this forum has asked me to pass on....

"This question of oral sex is fascinating.  I had always thought that having sex with one's partner was one of the joys of Judaism and one thing that set Judaism apart from the puritanism of other religions.  It is a holy thing to spend a Sabbath having sex with the person you are married to.  I see no prohibitions against engaging in forms of sexual activity if you are married to that person.  Can anyone point out the sources that say you should not touch your partner's genitals with your mouth? "

Ok well there you go, am not feeling to great today think i might go get some fruit....

Fruit(otl) Alert! - I think Yantan is getting some fruit in Scotland.

evryone over here is FOTL 

No offense meant - I'm sorry.
Yantan said -
Ok well there you go, am not feeling to great today think i might go get some fruit....
 
It was the first thing I thought when I read that.
Second - on Yantan's profile it says Scotland.
I was actually saying it half in jest - because although I understood and agreed with Fruit being banned - I did not hate having him on the forum.
Accept my apology if it offended you and especially Yantan.

[angryChineseKahanist]

I thought I saw "Finding a Virgin Mary", but no it's "Finding a Virgin to Marry!"

[Shoshana]

You are not allowed to perform oral sex on a woman because it wastes the female "seed" (female orgasmic fluids). I think performing oral sex is also degrading to the person performing it. It is also dirty. Why not have real sex (missionary position)? That is mutual.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree but how is oral sex any dirtier than regular sex?
How is it degrading to the person performing it?
Is there a biblical reason for only the missionary position being allowed in your view?

[Yantan]

i'm female, and don't worry i'm not offended.

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

You are not allowed to perform oral sex on a woman because it wastes the female "seed" (female orgasmic fluids). I think performing oral sex is also degrading to the person performing it. It is also dirty. Why not have real sex (missionary position)? That is mutual.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree but how is oral sex any dirtier than regular sex?
How is it degrading to the person performing it?
Is there a biblical reason for only the missionary position being allowed in your view?

It is dirty both physically and mentally:

1) Physically – because you use this mouth to pray, eat, kiss your children and parents.
2) Mentally – it is actually “going down”, that is lowering yourself.

In the normal sex situation you brains are on the same level and genitals on their own level.

Here is another spiritual explanation.

It is understood that oral sex is not actually dangerous. You can’t get poisoned or get sick. However, there should be limits and restrictions everywhere, that is it is immoral to say that everything can go in bed. In other words, if you don’t have restrictions in one area, especially sex, then you won’t have limits anywhere in your life. That has been proven many many times.

If you justify one thing today, you will justify another tomorrow.

[Shoshana]

You are not allowed to perform oral sex on a woman because it wastes the female "seed" (female orgasmic fluids). I think performing oral sex is also degrading to the person performing it. It is also dirty. Why not have real sex (missionary position)? That is mutual.

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree but how is oral sex any dirtier than regular sex?
How is it degrading to the person performing it?
Is there a biblical reason for only the missionary position being allowed in your view?

It is dirty both physically and mentally:

1) Physically – because you use this mouth to pray, eat, kiss your children and parents.
2) Mentally – it is actually “going down”, that is lowering yourself.

In the normal sex situation you brains are on the same level and genitals on their own level.

Here is another spiritual explanation.

It is understood that oral sex is not actually dangerous. You can’t get poisoned or get sick. However, there should be limits and restrictions everywhere, that is it is immoral to say that everything can go in bed. In other words, if you don’t have restrictions in one area, especially sex, then you won’t have limits anywhere in your life. That has been proven many many times.

If you justify one thing today, you will justify another tomorrow.

That was an excellant explaination.

[LWB123123]

Although I am not Jewish, I would like to ask a favor of the Jewish members here. Please explain to me the reasoning, behind why oral sex is wrong according to Judaism. I do not understand it.

I agree that Abortion, Condoms and especially are wrong. As well, that Condoms and clippings are insulting to real Men.

I agree that anal sex is gross and insulting to women in the process.

But what could be wrong with oral sex?

For example, I am given to understand that women have a much harder time of achieving an orgasm than a male in the sex act. Am I right? How could it be wrong to help her with oral stimulation. Just out of consideration for her. Suppose you wash afterwards. And you both lower yourself in the act. It would be mutual.

[Zvulun Ben Moshe]

Although I am not Jewish, I would like to ask a favor of the Jewish members here. Please explain to me the reasoning, behind why oral sex is wrong according to Judaism. I do not understand it.

I agree that Abortion, Condoms and especially are wrong. As well, that Condoms and clippings are insulting to real Men.

I agree that anal sex is gross and insulting to women in the process.

But what could be wrong with oral sex?

For example, I am given to understand that women have a much harder time of achieving an orgasm than a male in the sex act. Am I right? How could it be wrong to help her with oral stimulation. Just out of consideration for her. Suppose you wash afterwards. And you both lower yourself in the act. It would be mutual.

If you want a Jewish answer, you will get it.

1) You need to be circumcised first to increase your durability
2) You need to conduct a healthy way of life to increase your stability
3) You need to conduct a modest way of life to increase your wife’s excitement while in private. For example, a couple that sees each other naked all the time will have a hard time getting excited.

[Lisa]

And how exactly is female "seed" "wasted?"