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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2012, 11:40:16 AM »
My knowledge of history is much deeper than these stories for little American children.

Your 'history' is from Communists.
I gave you the easiest reading because I didnt know if you read English well or not.

I just told you; I AM IROQUOIS INDIAN BY MY FATHER.
 I AM NATIVE AMERICAN.  I am telling you, that you are learning LIES.

If you dont believe me, then you are just calling me a liar.

Thanks a lot. I dont know you, but thanks for calling me and my fathers family liars and instead, believing in Commie BS.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2012, 11:40:55 AM »
My knowledge of history is much deeper than these stories for little American children.

REFUTE this story, then. REFUTE IT.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2012, 11:44:39 AM »
My knowledge of history is much deeper than these stories for little American children.

BY THE WAY:
This is MY families history, IN America- and here YOU are, an expert be4cause of friggin leftist Commies?

I cant believe the lengths people go to make other people feel like sh*t.

MY family was NOT invaded.  Indians were NOT INVADED.  They are ASSIMILATED into the white populus. MILLIONS are ASSIMILATED into the WHITE POPULUS of America.

I wont talk to you anymore. You totally disrespected MY heritage. NOT yours. MINE.  Call me and my family liars.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2012, 11:46:02 AM »
This time of friendship and peace did not last. Before too long the clashes of culture, and the differences in beliefs, surfaced, creating a hostile environment for both cultures. The Pilgrims could not have survived without the aid and teachings of the Native Americans.
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WHERE is a LIE??
This is the TRUTH.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2012, 12:18:06 PM »
You think Indian reservations, where the natives have the right to live according to their own laws are concentration camps ?
I spent a lot of time on a reservation as a kid, we had a lot of good times. And in my lifetime I've seen the reservation come a long way.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2012, 12:26:23 PM »
You do not know history because you father did not want to tell the truth. He left that "truth" to be told through American educational system and now you do not know history of your people or you know very little. What I write every single student in this world knows but American. Over 10 million Indians had been murdered and those who survived mostly live in reservations/concentration camps. You father wanted you to live in purple world in which you would not feel different as Native American.
Maybe what I am writing is not popular, or it upsets you, but read books and research about atrocities committed against your people.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2012, 12:54:17 PM »
Yes! I agree! But Ashedina was talking about the founders of America!

 Well she responded to my mention of the Crusaders. And anyway her being a Moranno Jewess, descendants of the Jews who were forcibly converted or brutally murdered, I would not expect clemency or justification of the church in Spain and the Crusaders from throughout Europe.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2012, 02:17:15 PM »
You do not know history because you father did not want to tell the truth. He left that "truth" to be told through American educational system and now you do not know history of your people or you know very little. What I write every single student in this world knows but American. Over 10 million Indians had been murdered and those who survived mostly live in reservations/concentration camps. You father wanted you to live in purple world in which you would not feel different as Native American.
Maybe what I am writing is not popular, or it upsets you, but read books and research about atrocities committed against your people.

My father has kept many artifacts that are well over 500 yrs old. My grandmother told me the stories of my fathers people, as well as my g'great-mother.
One of the artifacts is my g-g-g-g grandmother, which is engraved in a bears tooth. 
MY people, NOT YOURS got along very well with white Europeans.

SO-Basically you are calling me a liar, and that is nasty.

The "American" education system now, is full of sh*t.
Ask ANY American here.

 You have TOTALLY disrespected me, my father, who DOES NOT LIE, called MY family liars, & belittled me.

I will tell you this regarding the "American" KIND 'education' bullsh*t, for this IS what they teach about the sweet, wonderful, nice, Kosovo/Bosnian Muslims:

The Kosavo/Bosnians were kind to you, and dont tell me different, because the American education system PLAINLY says that the Serbs got what they asked for when America invaded their country, killing Serb Christians over Kosovo/Bosnian Muslim/Nazis..

That is what America teaches about Serbia.

So, knock your socks off Chump. 
Believe the BULLSH*T American 'education' system.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2012, 02:24:30 PM »
Well she responded to my mention of the Crusaders. And anyway her being a Moranno Jewess, descendants of the Jews who were forcibly converted or brutally murdered, I would not expect clemency or justification of the church in Spain and the Crusaders from throughout Europe.
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Yes, my moms family mothers and fathers (Portuguese Marrano Jews) were SERIOUSLY forcefully indoctrinated.  But that was not the crusades.  That was during the Spanish Inquisition.  I dont hold Catholics NOW, responsible for what happened THEN.

I happen to love Catholic people very much.  Of course not as much as my fellow Jews because they understand a pain inside of me that is terrible... Like when I hear the Hatikvah, or Yerushalayim  Shel Zehav. I weep my gutts out, and I do know why; It is because of a pain throughout the ages. It is very deep. I dont expect non-Jews to understand it.

But, I just dont look at past sins of gentile nations and hold accountable Christians and Catholics now.  Thats me.  My enemy is the Stalinists/left.
They hate G-d, they hate Jews and Israel and they seriously hate Christians more than anyone.
So, that is my fight NOW.

You see?
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2012, 02:35:26 PM »
Yea, serbianarmy dude, seriously, the majority of Native Americans that died were from western disease, which they had never encountered, and alcoholism helped in that, and was the main threat to the culture. Explain me how everyone in the world knows something except the people it happened to? "Everyone in the world" knows Serbia started an "unprovoked genocide" against the muzzbag sex slavers and butchers.

Thinking about it logically, when everyone agrees with something, it's usually wrong.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2012, 02:45:35 PM »
My father has kept many artifacts that are well over 500 yrs old. My grandmother told me the stories of my fathers people, as well as my g'great-mother.
One of the artifacts is my g-g-g-g grandmother, which is engraved in a bears tooth. 
MY people, NOT YOURS got along very well with white Europeans.

SO-Basically you are calling me a liar, and that is nasty.

The "American" education system now, is full of sh*t.
Ask ANY American here.

 You have TOTALLY disrespected me, my father, who DOES NOT LIE, called MY family liars, & belittled me.

I will tell you this regarding the "American" KIND 'education' bullsh*t, for this IS what they teach about the sweet, wonderful, nice, Kosovo/Bosnian Muslims:

The Kosavo/Bosnians were kind to you, and dont tell me different, because the American education system PLAINLY says that the Serbs got what they asked for when America invaded their country, killing Serb Christians over Kosovo/Bosnian Muslim/Nazis..

That is what America teaches about Serbia.

So, knock your socks off Chump. 
Believe the BULLSH*T American 'education' system.
I did research on your particular tribe or coalition of 6 different tribes (Iroquolis). Because of their war efforts they had not be exterminated like other tribes in North America. But that does not mean millions of Indians had not been murdered. You must separate those two things.

Jews were not murdered in America in WWII but it does not mean that Holocaust never happened.

In case of Kosovo, I am not worried what they teach kids in schools. They are not able to show Europe on the map let alone know history of that region.
 
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2012, 02:51:48 PM »
Yea, serbianarmy dude, seriously, the majority of Native Americans that died were from western disease, which they had never encountered

I agree on that. Unfortunate souls that survived had been placed as slaves in gold mines where most of them died. In North America those tribes who could not protect their land anymore ended up in concentration camps/reservations. See this video:

http://www.unitednativeamerica.com/aiholocaust.html
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2012, 03:26:37 PM »
I agree on that. Unfortunate souls that survived had been placed as slaves in gold mines where most of them died. In North America those tribes who could not protect their land anymore ended up in concentration camps/reservations. See this video:

http://www.unitednativeamerica.com/aiholocaust.html

Nope, that is an anti-American, Commie bullsh*t  website.
There was no 'holocaust' of American Indians.

The Indians FOUGHT BACK, starting in the 1850's.  They didnt get shot systematically.  The Jews DID.
So, you are trying to say that the American Indians who FOUGHT back were systematically destroyed.
BS.
They not only fought back, their savagery was BY FAR worse than any savagery Americans had ever seen.

The American Indian, much the same in over 100 years: Living off US Govt, CHOOSING to live in squalor. Alcoholics, wife-beaters. The tribe called Lumbee Indians are probably the only SANE tribe in America, now. Besides assimilated Indians.

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The U.S. government has "helped" no group more than it has "helped" the American Indians. It stuns me when President Obama appears before Indian groups and says things like, "Few have been ignored by Washington for as long as Native Americans."

Ignored? Are you kidding me? They should be so lucky. The government has made most Indian tribes wards of the state. Government manages their land, provides their health care, and pays for housing and child care. Twenty different departments and agencies have special "native American" programs. The result? Indians have the highest poverty rate, nearly 25 percent, and the lowest life expectancy of any group in America. Sixty-six percent are born to single mothers.

Nevertheless, Indian activists want more government "help."

It is intuitive to assume that, when people struggle, government "help" is the answer. The opposite is true. American groups who are helped the most, do the worst.

Consider the Lumbees of Robeson County, N.C. -- a tribe not recognized as sovereign by the government and therefore ineligible for most of the "help" given other tribes. The Lumbees do much better than those recognized tribes.

Lumbees own their homes and succeed in business. They include real estate developer Jim Thomas, who used to own the Sacramento Kings, and Jack Lowery, who helped start the Cracker Barrel Restaurants. Lumbees started the first Indian-owned bank, which now has 12 branches.

The Lumbees' wealth is not from casino money.

"We don't have any casinos. We have 12 banks," says Ben Chavis, another successful Lumbee businessman. He also points out that Robeson County looks different from most Indian reservations.

"There's mansions. They look like English manors. I can take you to one neighborhood where my people are from and show you nicer homes than the whole Sioux reservation."

Despite this success, professional "victims" activists want Congress to make the Lumbees dependent -- like other tribes. U.S. Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., has introduced the Lumbee Recognition Act, which would give the Lumbees the same "help" other tribes get -- about $80 million a year. Some members of the tribe support the bill.

Of course they do. People like to freeload.

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2012, 03:30:01 PM »
Yea, serbianarmy dude, seriously, the majority of Native Americans that died were from western disease, which they had never encountered, and alcoholism helped in that, and was the main threat to the culture. Explain me how everyone in the world knows something except the people it happened to? "Everyone in the world" knows Serbia started an "unprovoked genocide" against the muzzbag sex slavers and butchers.

Thinking about it logically, when everyone agrees with something, it's usually wrong.

Thank you, and I am through with the convo.  I am proof that many Indians were not killed.  My Dad is proof, plus MANY Indians are 100% PROOF. The Yavapais up here in AZ live like fat-cats.  They also try to push that mumbo jumbo that there was a 'holocaust.' which is 100% crap.

The Indians were FIERCE fighters.  I dont like it when people try to PRETEND that the American Indian was victim, they most certainly were NOT!
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2012, 03:33:58 PM »
I agree on that. Unfortunate souls that survived had been placed as slaves in gold mines where most of them died. In North America those tribes who could not protect their land anymore ended up in concentration camps/reservations.

A reservation can not be compared in any way to a concentration camp. The Spanish enslaved many for the mines, but the rest of the colonizers only attacked due to terrible atrocities such as scalping, burning people alive, raids due to colonists not giving gifts in return for what they assumed was just a gift, and many other horrible things.

While British colonists learned much from the native Americans, such as even the idea of united states, the Native American culture was completely inflexible, and only those assimilated adopted the many beneficial attributes of European culture. Other then getting better at killing, and over-trapping, it was evident that both cultures could never co-exist.

Also, the Spanish weren't killing and enslaving friendly, welcoming people here. The Aztecs would slit people open on top of their step pyramids, and let the blood run down, and carried an ideology that the land must be fed with blood, and would go out hunting the less advanced natives for more sacrifices during a special time of the year, and these less advanced ones still survive in jungle societies until this day.

Also, if a tribe could not protect its land, it would typically be wiped clean by Mohawks and other violent tribes. The colonists helped but the historical revisionists exaggerate at every turn, to have a chance to say "America is bad".
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« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2012, 03:42:35 PM »
it was evident that both cultures could never co-exist.

That is why one was wiped out. Out of 20 million we have 250,000 Native Americans in North America. They were probably imigrating to other countries?
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« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2012, 04:25:41 PM »
That is why one was wiped out. Out of 20 million we have 250,000 Native Americans in North America. They were probably imigrating to other countries?

Minor emigration, but assimilation through missions and otherwise claimed most of this statistic I'm sure you have no legitimate way of verifying. Why don't you try and follow their very spartan and conversational culture surrounded by a sprawling urban metropolis. If a Native American leaves the reservation, he is provided an Indian affairs card, and is offered benefits like dental and tax breaks, and in three generations, is considered assimilated and no longer receives these benefits. This and other factors keeps the Native American population perpetually low, if they had been racially segregated (bad) their population would be massive in 400 years of living with the Americans. Don't repeat stuff you haven't studied and are 100% sure about, it's the path to liberalism.
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« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2012, 05:06:42 PM »
Minor emigration, but assimilation through missions and otherwise claimed most of this statistic I'm sure you have no legitimate way of verifying. Why don't you try and follow their very spartan and conversational culture surrounded by a sprawling urban metropolis. If a Native American leaves the reservation, he is provided an Indian affairs card, and is offered benefits like dental and tax breaks, and in three generations, is considered assimilated and no longer receives these benefits. This and other factors keeps the Native American population perpetually low, if they had been racially segregated (bad) their population would be massive in 400 years of living with the Americans. Don't repeat stuff you haven't studied and are 100% sure about, it's the path to liberalism.
And this is official history in America on subject of genocide and mass murder of indigenous people? I am not surprised as we have Lincoln to be "against" slavery and Civil War fought to free slaves. Then we have that Roosevelt was a great president with superb economic policies.  :o

I have two choices here. One is to start posting evidence of gruesome mass murders of Indians or just "admit" they disappeared because they wanted to live American dream. Germans say Lusatian Serbs just wanted to become Germans and thus almost disappeared from history.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2012, 05:15:02 PM »
And this is official history in America on subject of genocide and mass murder of indigenous people? I am not surprised as we have Lincoln to be "against" slavery and Civil War fought to free slaves. Then we have that Roosevelt was a great president with superb economic policies.  :o

I have two choices here. One is to start posting evidence of gruesome mass murders of Indians or just "admit" they disappeared because they wanted to live American dream. Germans say Lusatian Serbs just wanted to become Germans and thus almost disappeared from history.

I am well aware of tribes being wiped out. Native Americans are the only guerrilla force defending their own turf that has ever been defeated, and after 400 years of scalping, some colonists were a little crazy too. What would have Native American culture, arriving at a barely armed Christian America have done to them?

And post what you will, but very little history, especially in America escapes me.
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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2012, 06:12:46 PM »
Thank you, and I am through with the convo. I am proof that many Indians were not killed.   My Dad is proof, plus MANY Indians are 100% PROOF. The Yavapais up here in AZ live like fat-cats.  They also try to push that mumbo jumbo that there was a 'holocaust.' which is 100% crap.

 That is like saying that I am proof that their was no Holocuast perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews. I'm Jewish and I am alive, soo there-fore the holocaust didn't happen?
 Personally I'm nmot that interested in American history, just my 2cents.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2012, 09:49:08 PM »
They did kill a lot, but its not like they didn't try to get along. They're lucky muslims didn't actually discover it. The phenomenon is explained at length by the Japanese fellow in a couple words.
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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 12:13:06 AM »
I did research on your particular tribe or coalition of 6 different tribes (Iroquolis). Because of their war efforts they had not be exterminated like other tribes in North America. But that does not mean millions of Indians had not been murdered. You must separate those two things.

Jews were not murdered in America in WWII but it does not mean that Holocaust never happened.

In case of Kosovo, I am not worried what they teach kids in schools. They are not able to show Europe on the map let alone know history of that region.


Uhhh most of south America and central America are native American or mestizo...just saying.

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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2012, 01:17:54 AM »
That is like saying that I am proof that their was no Holocuast perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews. I'm Jewish and I am alive, soo there-fore the holocaust didn't happen?
 Personally I'm nmot that interested in American history, just my 2cents.

I really don't like this anology.

Nearly all the native americans that died after 1492 died because of disease brought from Europe.   Estimates are between 85-95% of their total population died within the next 100 years because of Euro diseases, not because the white man was shoving innocent Indians in ovens as part of a genocide.

And while there were some peaceful Indians, many of them were quite savage and brutal.... just as brutal as the white men... but with weaker weapons....

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2012, 11:47:51 AM »
That is like saying that I am proof that their was no Holocuast perpetrated by the Nazis against the Jews. I'm Jewish and I am alive, soo there-fore the holocaust didn't happen?
 Personally I'm nmot that interested in American history, just my 2cents.

Tag Mehir:
I am also a Jew. My mother is a Jew.  My FATHER is the American Indian. (Seneca/Iroquois)

Basically, You are saying this happened and you folks that dont believe it are 'holocaust deniers.'
Nope. NO.

There is  *NO* comparison to the evil perpetrated against Jews in Germany/EU, etc as compared to Indians who FOUGHT back.  The Jews had their weapons confiscated and EVERYTHING they owned was stolen from them.
 They had NO knives, they didnt scalp Germans, they didnt rape Germans, they had ZERO to fight back with. NOTHING.

You cannot compare the atrocities against the Jews and say you feel something for the American Indian b/c they went through something similar. NO, they did NOT.  These are all leftist talking points, I reject them. 
The leftists ALSO compare the Mexican to the Jews, The blacks to the Jews, etc.  LIES.

Many Indians died off because of EU diseases that most Europeans were immune to.

Indians FOUGHT back and had weapons.  They were SAVAGE fighters.
STOP putting down the American Indian. They were NOT victims.  NOBODY 'took' their weapons.


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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2012, 11:52:53 AM »
Ashedina why are you so certain Columbus had a converso mother and catholic father, what are you basing on ?