Class system for NYC subway?

[newman]

some years ago the Paris metro had a class system: 1st and 2nd. There was no difference in carriage features or service, but with a difference in cost it allowed decent people not to have to ride with undesieables ( blacks and arabs). I am lead to believe the socialist gov't did away with it much to the annoyance of the public.

Why not introduce a class system in the NYC subway along similar lines?

1st class :$$$
2nd class:$
MMM HMMM class: free  and with hose-out carriages

[Hail Columbia]

That's a very good idea.  In fact, iit is the next best thing to segregation.

[newman]

That's a very good idea.  In fact, iit is the next best thing to segregation.

If there was a vote, all the middle class liberals who poo-poo the idea at dinner parties would still vote for it.

[Allen-T]

some years ago the Paris metro had a class system: 1st and 2nd. There was no difference in carriage features or service, but with a difference in cost it allowed decent people not to have to ride with undesieables ( blacks and arabs). I am lead to believe the socialist gov't did away with it much to the annoyance of the public.

Why not introduce a class system in the NYC subway along similar lines?

1st class :$$$
2nd class:$
MMM HMMM class: free  and with hose-out carriages

Newman for Mayor of NYC!! I would pay double for a spookless ride.

[cosmokramer]

But how would they do it? Would there be seperate entrances to the train and you would have to swipe a different metro card into the subway door? Right now you have to swipe it only at the entrance to the station. LOL!

Have transit cops on the 1st class car.

[newman]

But how would they do it? Would there be seperate entrances to the train and you would have to swipe a different metro card into the subway door? Right now you have to swipe it only at the entrance to the station. LOL!

Have transit cops on the 1st class car.

They managed in france somehow

[Angry Panther]

I prefer the deport the Shvartzas and other undiserables back to there third world armpit countries they come from program. Why should decent, hardworking American's be burdened with expensive solutions and ideas to keep them safe from a bunch of wild third world animals. The New York City Subway system can be safe again, everyone New Yorker deserves an inexpensive, clean, undisturbed ride on the subway. Just like they used to have in the 1930's and 1940's.

[fjack]

In places such as India and South Asia the lower classes ride on top of the trains, smack on the roof. I also understand that mexicans do this also. I also know that in India they have a place for untouchables, they are allowed to ride with the livestock and barnyard animals.

[cjd]

About the only way this might work is the way it was outlined in the original post of this thread. The affirmative action riders would have to ride free. People who want to ride like civilized humans would need to pony up a buck or so more to get on the better part of the train. As crazy as it sounds and as distasteful as it may be to some what is needed is electronic monitoring of the entire system. If a disturbance goes on in the train railroad security should be waiting at the next station to toss off the offending animal.

[takebackourtemple]

   This is an idea I came up with a while ago. I hinted about it on a discussion about Rosa Parks. I'm glad someone else independently came up with it. The city of New York is always raising taxes and tolls because they don't have enough funding to run the public transportation system. Well here is a worthy source of funding.
   They should have 1st, 2nd and 3rd class. 1st class cars should while attached to the same trains should be bid out to private companies to own and operate for market rate revenue and should be made as nice as the private investor chooses to. 2nd class cars could be run either way, but would be owned by the MTA and could be used as 3rd class cars for off peak travel times.
   NJT and LIRR trains have historically had private cars.

But how would they do it? Would there be seperate entrances to the train and you would have to swipe a different metro card into the subway door? Right now you have to swipe it only at the entrance to the station. LOL!

   In the late 80's/early 90's there was a train called the JFK express. Like the LIRR, it had conductors and cost an extra $4.50 to ride.

[takebackourtemple]

Then you would have to do away with the turnstiles where you swipe the metro card. It would be like the light rails in New Jersey where you buy a ticket and then validate it by stamping the date on it in a machine. But there, they never check that you have the ticket but technically if they come, you have to show it to them. So you could buy a first class ticket like that and show them.

   I intentionally avoided mentioning the honor system, because with all the homeless bums, it would never work. The same turnstiles would still be used. Like the JFK express, 1st and 2nd class upgrades would be collected as additional fares. How this is implemented could be done in many ways. The important issue is that if someone wants a better ride that will benefit the taxpayer, they should be able to purchase one.

   Here is a link to a map with the JFK express. It was like and A train except it was an express.
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/system_1987.gif

   They removed this service because of lack of ridership. If this was don't on the E or F train in the morning where people are fighting to obtain seats, ridership results would be quite different.

[Joe Schmo]

Great idea.  They have this system on many of the rail lines in Tokyo, Japan.

I don't see why THEY need it though.  Not too many schwartzes in Japan.

[takebackourtemple]

   There are many people who don't take the subway because a ride in a crowded and smelly train car is unacceptable for them. As a result, they drive or take cabs. A first class train ride might be less expensive than parking or a cab ride but might be acceptable.
   BTW, Despite what the environmentally aware politicians say, they want people to drive instead of taking public transit because that generates additional revenue.

[fjack]

When the amenisty bill is passed by the traitors on capital hill you will see millions pour over the borders to infest our cities. They will come to NYC by the millions. The city population will double and the mass transportation system will come to a standstill. If you think is bad now, wait till the mexicans demand affrimative action civil service jobs and take over the transit system along with their black brutas and sistas. What whites still work there will be replaced with turd world morons with the IQ of a stale taco. It will be horrible. The police force will be totally brown and black, so don't bother to call them for help. Press 27 for english. I never thought it would come to this. I am very angry over this destruction of a civilization, mine and your civilization. There will be no united country anymore. We will be made up of balkinized sections of the city. Corona will be known as the "new atzec nation', the bronx will be 'the peoples republic of dominica' etc. etc. The end is near. Prepare for an existance that only science fiction writers can dream of. The nightmare will begin and we, white people will be the victims in this saga.

[newman]

I think it's time for white New Yorkers to sell up and move west from the sound of things. The only consolation is the Schwartzas will be screwed by the kookarachas. The kookarachas have a 25% higher IQ than they do and if they can get the same affirmative action perks the blacks will have no hope of competing.

[Dan]

That's a great idea !
I take the subway very often... 
I looked around recently and did not see one white person in the whole subway cart with me, all baboons and coocarachas, etc.
This is what NYC will eventually be like!

[newman]

That's a great idea !
I take the subway very often... 
I looked around recently and did not see one white person in the whole subway cart with me, all baboons and coocarachas, etc.
This is what NYC will eventually be like!

It's infuriating hearing what NYC has come to. Especially when you see old black& white movies and see how fine it used to be. The immigrants in those days were great too.....wonderful jews, irish, italian............ not the filfth they have today.