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Jews of India
« on: August 20, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
http://adaniel.tripod.com/beneisrael.htm

"They began with their own theories about the origins of Bene Israel and other researchers including the Bene Israel themselves also began theorizing the origins of the Bene Israel. Different researchers came to different conclusions. Among the theories there were a few which came to conclusion that the Bene Israel’s forefathers arrived in India before the destruction of the second Temple and this is because the Bene Israel (meaning children of Israel) did not call themselves Jews (In the narrow sense the Jews are descendants only from the two of the twelve tribes of Children Of Israel, Yehuda and Benjamin) . For the same reason others concluded that the Indian Bene Israel are from the ‘Lost Tribes’ which are the ten tribes (of the twelve tribes of the Children Of Israel) whom the Assyrians exiled from the Land Of Israel in 800 BC and what happened of them is not known (and are therefore called Lost Tribes) . Others concluded that the Bene Israel originate from the tribes of Zvulun and Asher and that’s because the Bene Israel engaged in the profession of oil pressing which is believed to be the profession popular among the tribes of Zvulun and Asher. Other reasons that support the theory that the Bene Israel Jews are in India for over 2000 years is the fact that they weren’t aware of the main Jewish tradition which evolved in Judaism between 200 BC to 300 AD. Others concluded that the Bene Israel are Jews who came to India from Arab countries at a much later period, somewhere around the seventh century AD. And there are other theories, among them is that the Bene Israel aren’t at all of Israeli origin."
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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 03:39:43 PM »
Well the Cochin Jews came much before the Bene Israel. And the first Jews came to India as merchants during King Solomons rule i think.

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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 03:58:32 PM »
http://adaniel.tripod.com/cochin.htm

"Like the Bene Israels, the arrival time of the first Cochini Jews isn’t clear. But one fact is sure about the Cochini Jews, that they weren’t a single emigration. At different times Jews arrived and settled in south India at Kudungallur. According to one version the first forefathers of the Cochini Jews arrived in India during the King Solomon’s period. King Solomon had commercial business with a kingdom probably existing in the present state of Kerala in south India. Other version claims that the Cochini Jews are from the Lost Tribes. Another version claims that the Cochini Jews arrived in India after they were exiled from Land of Israel by Nebuchadnezzar. Later on in the history Jews from Spain, arrived in Cochin. The Spanish Jews lived separately from the veteran Jews and considered them as Indian proselytes to Judaism. The Keralans take pride in the fact that the kingdoms of Kerala were world famous and merchants from around the world frequently visited Kerala, since the times of King Solomon and later on Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Chinese and others. Among the merchants, also arrived in Kerala many Jewish merchants and some of them settled in Kerala. The main center of the Jewish community in Kerala was at Kudungallur (referred to in English as Cranganore). The existence of the Jewish community in south India was known to other Jewish communities outside India and some other Jewish merchants also arrived in India. The Jewish merchants were influential community in their state and outside their state and were main reason for the prosperity in their kingdom. As a gratitude for their contribution to the kingdom, the ruler Sri Parkaran Iravi Vanmar gave to the head of the Jewish community Joseph Rabban the village of Anjuvannam and pronounced him the Prince of this village. These Jewish rulers had all the rights preserved to the ruling families of the Indian kingdoms. But till today there isn’t an agreement among the scholars on the exact date when this ‘Jewish kingdom’ was established. Different scholars give different dates to the establishment of this principality. Some claim it to be in the 4 century A. D. Others claim it to be at a much later period around10 century A. D. According to the Cochini Jews the ‘princely rights’ (written on copper plates and therefore called Copper Plates) were given to them in 379 A. D."
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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 08:33:17 PM »
Do we have ways of telling real Indian Jews from Indian Gentiles who want to get a free ride in Israel?

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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 09:00:14 PM »
Do we have ways of telling real Indian Jews from Indian Gentiles who want to get a free ride in Israel?

I do not know or think that some Indian Gentiles may want to get a free ride in Israel, as it may be highly problematic for them from the beginning to the end.
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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2012, 12:21:37 PM »
I do not know or think that some Indian Gentiles may want to get a free ride in Israel, as it may be highly problematic for them from the beginning to the end.
I have heard about instances when Indian Christians tried to catch that free ride to Israel, under the guise of being jewish.

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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2012, 02:52:04 PM »
I do not know or think that some Indian Gentiles may want to get a free ride in Israel, as it may be highly problematic for them from the beginning to the end.

I have heard about instances when Indian Christians tried to catch that free ride to Israel, under the guise of being jewish.

Oh! Earlier I could not see that angle. Now I think it may be possible.
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Re: Jews of India
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2012, 05:01:00 PM »
Do we have ways of telling real Indian Jews from Indian Gentiles who want to get a free ride in Israel?
There are no free riders imposters from India. There is one group, bnei menashe who claim they are descended from the lost tribe of menashe and some Jews believe it. But anyway they have to undergo a full conversion if they want to become Jews and they accept it and don't try to cheat. There is a small community of converts beni menashe in Israel and they are good industrious religious Jews.