Author Topic: Will someone destroy islam already? (Read 273550 times)

syyuge · « **Reply #375 on:** August 24, 2013, 08:18:21 PM »

David Cameron to give Syria ultimatum:

David Cameron is pressing for United Nations action against Syria following the gassing of thousands of civilians in a suburb of Damascus.

The Prime Minister spoke with President Barack Obama by telephone to ask for help with convening an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council.

He wants to put forward a “game-changing” resolution that would give the Syrian government, led by Bashar al-Assad, “one last chance” to disarm.

Mr Cameron is said to have been left sickened by images of children killed by the chemical weapons. One charity yesterday said at least 355 people had died and 10 times that number were treated for poisoning. Britain and France have blamed the Assad regime for the chemical attack.

On Saturday night four American destroyers were moving closer to Syria, armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, which are capable of precision strikes.

The move risks a public row with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, who does not want any action taken against his ally.

But US officials were studying the Kosovo conflict, in which Nato launched weeks of air strikes without UN support and in the teeth of Russian opposition.

President Assad’s regime has denied that it has used chemical weapons, describing the claims as “absolutely baseless”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10264658/David-Cameron-to-give-Syria-ultimatum.html

Kudos to Cameron for the immense humanitarian task that he supposedly thinks he will handle.

syyuge · « **Reply #376 on:** August 26, 2013, 07:12:47 PM »

Intervention in Syria would be 'tragic mistake', warns Russia:

Russia said that the West would be making a "tragic mistake" by launching military strikes on its ally Syria as the international community headed for a repeat of the bitter diplomatic showdowns that preceded military action in Iraq and Kosovo.

Moscow warned the West not to pre-empt the work of the United Nations inspection team that is due to investigate last week's alleged chemical attack.

A Russian foreign ministry spokesman drew parallels with the US-led overthrow of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to justify its stance – a comparison rejected by Britain and America.

"All this is reminiscent of events from a decade ago, when the United States bypassed the UN and used fallacious information on the presence in Iraq of weapons of mass destruction to launch an adventure, the consequences of which are known to all."

But Western officials rejected those parallels, emphasising that they believed there was overwhelming evidence that Bashar al-Assad's forces had used chemical weapons in a deadly attack on a Damascus suburb.

But President Barack Obama seems increasingly likely to authorise targeted US cruise missile strikes against key Syrian military and command and control facilities.

He convened a rare Saturday meeting of all his top national security officials for three hours at the White House, followed by a 40-minute telephone call with David Cameron, the Prime Minister.

Although a senior Obama aide said that the president had not yet authorised a response, there are strong moves within the Administration to order Tomahawk cruise missile strikes from four US Naval ships now stationed in the eastern Mediterranean. US aircraft flying outside Syrian airspace could also be used to fire airborne rockets.

Shimon Peres, the Israeli president, meanwhile, called for an "international attempt to take out all the chemical weapons in Syria".

The Obama administration is looking at the 1999 Nato air war in Kosovo as a precedent for launching military strikes without UN backing. On that occasion, despite Russian and Chinese opposition, Western governments cited their responsibility to protect a civilian population as grounds for its bombing campaign.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10265668/Intervention-in-Syria-would-be-tragic-mistake-warns-Russia.html

Forget it all and the west shall invade against the Syria.

syyuge · « **Reply #377 on:** August 26, 2013, 09:08:51 PM »

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria:

Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russian a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

This is most likely to be a hoax.

syyuge · « **Reply #378 on:** August 28, 2013, 01:13:43 PM »

Military action in Syria would spark Middle East war, warns Lord Carey:

Opposition in the Church to military action in Syria is growing after the former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey warned it could lead to a regional war.

He said that despite a sense of "moral outrage" at the use of chemical weapons by the regime, armed intervention would drag the UK into a war which could engulf the whole of the Middle East.

And he voiced surprise that David Cameron is even contemplating a military response after slashing the armed forces to a "pitiful degree".

In voicing outright opposition to an attack, Lord Carey went further than the current Archbishop, the Most Rev Justin Welby, who urged MPs not to "rush to judgment" and consider the wider impact across the Muslim world.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Archbishop Welby warned of potential "unforeseeable" consequences of stepping in.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10270373/Military-action-in-Syria-would-spark-Middle-East-war-warns-Lord-Carey.html

War and muslamic infighting within the muslamic middle east shall escalate with whatever the consequences. West should move accordingly.

syyuge · « **Reply #379 on:** August 28, 2013, 05:20:24 PM »

Syria's UN ambassador accuses Britain of conspiring with rebels in chemical weapons attack:

Syria's ambassador to the United Nations has accused Britain of conspiring with rebel forces to carry out the chemical attack that killed hundreds of Syrian civilians last week.

However, in an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Bashar Ja’afari made the outlandish claim that David Cameron’s government had in fact supplied Syrian opposition forces with the necessary arms in an attempt to fool the world.

“The delivery system was offered by Britain,” said Mr Ja’afari, who described the attack as a “heinous crime” committed by “terrorists”.

Asked to confirm he meant the rockets had indeed been supplied by the UK, he said: “Absolutely — to drag western powers into this war... Syria is a victim of foreign interference in our domestic affairs.”

He claimed rebel fighters put the chemical weapons together in “secret laboratories in Turkey” before using them to kill their compatriots. The allegations were dismissed as absurd by British sources.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10272380/Syrias-UN-ambassador-accuses-Britain-of-conspiring-with-rebels-in-chemical-weapons-attack.html

No such blames shall deter the UK from attacking Syria and spreading the wars in muslamic middle east. After all it is their duty to establish and save the muslamic democracies.

syyuge · « **Reply #380 on:** August 28, 2013, 05:55:24 PM »

Cameron backs down on urgent Syria strikes:

David Cameron backed down and agreed to delay a military attack on Syria following a growing revolt over the UK's rushed response to the crisis on Wednesday night.

The Prime Minister has now said he will wait for a report by United Nations weapons inspectors before seeking the approval of MPs for “direct British involvement” in the Syrian intervention.

Downing Street said the decision to wait for the UN was based on the “deep concerns” the country still harbours over the Iraq War.

MPs had been recalled to vote on a motion on Thursday expected to sanction military action. Instead, after a Labour intervention, they will debate a broader motion calling for a “humanitarian response”.

A second vote would be required before any British military involvement. This could now take place next week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10272555/Cameron-backs-down-on-urgent-Syria-strikes.html

Now Cameron too like others has started vacillating. He can take his own time but shall come out with positive results.

Rational Jew · « **Reply #381 on:** August 28, 2013, 06:48:31 PM »

Boy, this is gonna be the longest thread of all!

syyuge · « **Reply #382 on:** August 28, 2013, 08:18:43 PM »

Quote from: Hollywood is a dreamland for Marx and Lenin on August 28, 2013, 06:48:31 PM

Boy, this is gonna be the longest thread of all!

Fortunately or unfortunately it has come in to the contact with a protracted war of muslamic infighting.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #383 on:** August 28, 2013, 11:21:03 PM »

Quote from: Hollywood is a dreamland for Marx and Lenin on August 28, 2013, 06:48:31 PM

Boy, this is gonna be the longest thread of all!

It has been well worked on by our friend here, and we should pray that it does, in fact, end on the note we all know it will, and as soon as possible.

syyuge · « **Reply #384 on:** September 03, 2013, 02:47:35 AM »

‘Unreliable’ British officers left out of US meetings on Syria:

British military chiefs are being ejected from US meetings about Syria as they are seen as “unreliable” following David Cameron’s refusal to join military action.

Military sources have claimed that the role of senior British officers at the US Central Command in Tampa, Florida, has been downgraded because their American counterparts believe that they cannot be trusted with high-level intelligence about a conflict with which they are not involved.

Roughly 30 British personnel have been working alongside the Americans and French and have been involved war planning for a number of weeks, including fine-tuning a list of targets and orchestrating military assets.

But after Mr Cameron ruled out an attack following a Commons defeat on Syrian action last Thursday the officers have been told that they can no longer participate in classified plans, the Times reported.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10282460/Unreliable-British-officers-left-out-of-US-meetings-on-Syria.html

Cameron should gather some more courage to invade Syria along with the US, France and Nato. Thus they will be able to participate in the biggest humanitarian drive as they think now. The souls of the dead birds of Syria are calling for the combined US, France, Nato and UK strike on Syria to avenge their death, I mean if they dare.

cjd · « **Reply #385 on:** September 03, 2013, 03:50:42 AM »

Quote from: syyuge on September 03, 2013, 02:47:35 AM

‘Unreliable’ British officers left out of US meetings on Syria:

British military chiefs are being ejected from US meetings about Syria as they are seen as “unreliable” following David Cameron’s refusal to join military action.

Military sources have claimed that the role of senior British officers at the US Central Command in Tampa, Florida, has been downgraded because their American counterparts believe that they cannot be trusted with high-level intelligence about a conflict with which they are not involved.

Roughly 30 British personnel have been working alongside the Americans and French and have been involved war planning for a number of weeks, including fine-tuning a list of targets and orchestrating military assets.

But after Mr Cameron ruled out an attack following a Commons defeat on Syrian action last Thursday the officers have been told that they can no longer participate in classified plans, the Times reported.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10282460/Unreliable-British-officers-left-out-of-US-meetings-on-Syria.html

Cameron should gather some more courage to invade Syria along with the US, France and Nato. Thus they will be able to participate in the biggest humanitarian drive as they think now. The souls of the dead birds of Syria are calling for the combined US, France, Nato and UK strike on Syria to avenge their death, I mean if they dare.

Whats the point of having people in high level meetings if they have no reason to be there... People who have no skin in the game seem to get slightly loose lipped at times... As for the birds calling who knows... As you well may know democrat presidents have been known to become embroiled in the most useless of conflicts.

syyuge · « **Reply #386 on:** September 03, 2013, 09:59:43 AM »

Quote from: LKZ on August 28, 2013, 11:21:03 PM

It has been well worked on by our friend here, and we should pray that it does, in fact, end on the note we all know it will, and as soon as possible.

G_d bless you.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #387 on:** September 03, 2013, 10:21:40 PM »

Quote from: syyuge on September 03, 2013, 09:59:43 AM

G_d bless you.

All I did was mention your virtue. It should be saying that, so G-d bless you and keep you safe, and remember you for being a righteous gentile among the nations.

syyuge · « **Reply #388 on:** September 04, 2013, 04:25:34 AM »

Vladimir Putin warns US over Syria 'aggression':

In an interview ahead of the G20 summit in St Petersburg, Russian President Vladimir Putin warns that military action against the Syrian regime without UN Security Council backing would be considered an "aggression".

Asked whether Russia would agree with US-led military strikes if it was proven that the Syrian regime had carried out the chemical attack outside Damascus on August 21, Mr Putin replied: "I do not exclude that."

But he said the West still needed to put forward watertight proof of the circumstances of the attack, which some Russian officials have blamed on rebels.

He said it would be unacceptable for the West to go ahead with military action against the regime of Bashar al-Assad without the assent of the UN Security Council, where Russia has veto-wielding permanent membership.

"Only the UN Security Council can give approval for the use of force against another state," Mr Putin said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10285312/Vladimir-Putin-warns-US-over-Syria-aggression.html

It is most pertinent that the man eaters do not capture the Syria in the name of any humanitarian drive.

syyuge · « **Reply #389 on:** September 04, 2013, 10:27:20 AM »

Poker-faced John McCain caught playing on smartphone during Senate's Syria hearing:

John McCain's poker face as he sat with colleagues listening to the case for the US to attack Syria was genuine: he was playing cards on his iPhone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10285544/Poker-faced-John-McCain-caught-playing-on-smartphone-during-Senates-Syria-hearing.html

He is complacent to have trapped the people irrespective of whether they voted for him or not.

syyuge · « **Reply #390 on:** September 05, 2013, 05:07:33 AM »

9 hours ago
FIRST ON CNN: Boehner turns down request to meet with Russian delegation
Posted by CNN Congressional Reporter Lisa Desjardins

Washington (CNN) – House Speaker John Boehner turned down a request from Russian diplomats who hope to directly lobby the U.S. Congress and undercut President Barack Obama on Syria.

“The Speaker has declined the Russian embassy’s request that he meet with a delegation," said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel.

A spokesman for the Russian embassy in Washington told CNN Wednesday that diplomats sent an official request to congressional leaders to meet with them on Capitol Hill.

“We’re planning the visit,” an embassy spokesman told CNN. “We can’t tell you the exact time, but it will be next week.”

The embassy spokesman said only wide parameters are firm right now, that it will be members of both the upper and lower chambers of the Russian parliament and that they intend to meet with senators and House members of both political parties.

Russia, a Syrian ally and major trading partner, is closely tied with the Assad government and leaders in Moscow have vocally opposed U.S. military intervention in the conflict.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/04/russians-send-official-request-to-meet-with-u-s-congress/

Under the prevailing environment of enmity and mistrust, any such meeting may only add fuel to the fire.

syyuge · « **Reply #391 on:** September 05, 2013, 05:24:15 PM »

Syria: Pope warns Barack Obama that military strike would be 'futile' :

The Pope has warned US president Barack Obama that targeting Syria with military strikes would be a "futile pursuit".

In a sharply-worded intervention in the debate on the Syrian conflict, Pope Francis also accused world leaders of having stood by and allowed a "senseless massacre" to unfold in the country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10290110/Syria-Pope-warns-Barack-Obama-that-military-strike-would-be-futile.html

It can not be said that how much the Kings of the Earth will comply to this order/appeal from the Last One. However one thing shall be certain that whether the strike at Syria occurs or not but the protracted war of muslamic infighting shall continue till their end.

cjd · « **Reply #392 on:** September 07, 2013, 08:50:02 AM »

Quote from: syyuge on September 05, 2013, 05:24:15 PM

Syria: Pope warns Barack Obama that military strike would be 'futile' :

The Pope has warned US president Barack Obama that targeting Syria with military strikes would be a "futile pursuit".

In a sharply-worded intervention in the debate on the Syrian conflict, Pope Francis also accused world leaders of having stood by and allowed a "senseless massacre" to unfold in the country.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10290110/Syria-Pope-warns-Barack-Obama-that-military-strike-would-be-futile.html

It can not be said that how much the Kings of the Earth will comply to this order/appeal from the Last One. However one thing shall be certain that whether the strike at Syria occurs or not but the protracted war of muslamic infighting shall continue till their end.

Have mercy... You even resort to quoting from the pope to make your case

The pope is correct that "targeting Syria with military strikes would be a "futile pursuit"... And I have to sadly admit I agree Putin's position on this issue far more than I do the Porch "Mongee" Presidents... As for this Pope being the last only time will tell.

syyuge · « **Reply #393 on:** September 07, 2013, 09:59:48 AM »

Quote from: cjd on September 07, 2013, 08:50:02 AM

Have mercy... You even resort to quoting from the pope to make your case The pope is correct that "targeting Syria with military strikes would be a "futile pursuit"... And I have to sadly admit I agree Putin's position on this issue far more than I do the Porch "Mongee" Presidents... As for this Pope being the last only time will tell.

Thanx! And I respect your point.

syyuge · « **Reply #394 on:** September 07, 2013, 03:49:37 PM »

No attack on Syria, no matter what, say voters:

British voters oppose any military attack on Syria, even if it is proved beyond doubt President Bashar al-Assad’s government used chemical weapons on his own people, a opinion poll reveals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10293825/No-attack-on-Syria-no-matter-what-say-voters.html

Now the best option available to Cameron is to turn in to a humanitarian hermit or to put on the commando gear and paradrop himself directly in to Damascus war zone at an appropriate time. Actually the British citizens have somehow understood that the whole political exercise is being done only to support the muslamic terrorists at Syria so as to apply the brakes on the protracted war of muslamic infighting.

syyuge · « **Reply #395 on:** September 09, 2013, 10:00:18 AM »

Syria's President Bashar al-Assad warns US 'should expect everything' if he is attacked:

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has warned against possible reprisal attacks if the United States attacks Syria, saying that if there were military strikes, Americans can "expect every action."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10296118/Syrias-President-Bashar-al-Assad-warns-US-should-expect-everything-if-he-is-attacked.html

Now if Obama attacks Assad and if Assad also retaliates, then it will be the beginning of another round of muslamic infighting. Then it can only be hoped that at least this part of the war shall be eco-friendly and accompanied with least collateral damages. However as a common objective both parties shall see and ensure to it that the city of Damascus shall turn in to a huge pile of ruins and rubble.

syyuge · « **Reply #396 on:** September 09, 2013, 02:46:22 PM »

Syria: Congress turns on John Kerry for claiming strikes would be 'unbelievably small':

John Kerry's promise that US strikes on Syria would be "unbelievably small" was today dismissed as "unbelievably unhelpful" while confusion over the White House's strategy for intervention continued.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10296999/Syria-Congress-turns-on-John-Kerry-for-claiming-strikes-would-be-unbelievably-small.html

How funny is this.

syyuge · « **Reply #397 on:** September 09, 2013, 06:36:50 PM »

US Secretary State: Assad has week to hand over chemical weapons:

US Secretary of State John Kerry says President Assad could hand over all his chemical weapons to the international community "in the next week" to prevent military intervention.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10297082/US-Secretary-State-Assad-has-week-to-hand-over-chemical-weapons.html

Whatever it will be, but it is an interesting idea.

syyuge · « **Reply #398 on:** September 11, 2013, 02:37:01 PM »

Only ground troops will end bloodshed in Syria, says commander of UN during Rwandan genocide:

Syria's situation is as dangerous as that in Rwanda before the genocide, according to the commander of the UN forces who tried in vain to convince the world to intervene.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10301957/Only-ground-troops-will-end-bloodshed-in-Syria-says-commander-of-UN-during-Rwandan-genocide.html

But why nobody comes up and clearly says that the presence of AQ as the Syrian rebels is the worst problem of this protracted war of muslamic infighting.

syyuge · « **Reply #399 on:** September 11, 2013, 07:34:54 PM »

Syria crisis: Russia 'hands chemical arms plan to US':

Russia has now handed over to the US its plans for making Syria's chemical weapons safe, Russian media say.

Until Tuesday morning, Mr Obama's government had been lobbying hard for support in Congress for military strikes. But surveys of politicians had shown he was unlikely to win the planned vote.

In a televised speech from the White House, President Obama said the Russian plan and the regime's admission that it held chemical weapons were "encouraging signs". "It's too early to tell whether [the Russian plan] will succeed, and any agreement must verify that the Assad regime keeps its commitments," he said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24053918

Now diplomacy and politics will play for some time.