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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2013, 08:50:57 PM »
NK is a spinoff of Satmarism. They are slightly more extreme (which really just means that they say what they feel a bit more openly) and that's it.

Here is another horror story about a crime that was perpetrated by this misogynistic murder cult that, as KWRBT pointed out, apes (no pun intended) the behavior of black Muslim gang members:

http://nymag.com/news/features/48532/

There is no crime in being a religious anti-zionist. There is a crime in helping the enemies of the Jewish people. This is why NK is to be cursed, and Satmar can be reasoned with... I have known Satmars which can be reasoned with...


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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2013, 08:52:08 PM »

  It was in the papers, SOO? That makes the verdict correct?

LOL, really?

Oh yeah, you're right, they probably criminally intimidated the victim only because they weren't worried at all about her testimony and because the big tzaddik is completely innocent.   Yeah, that's believable!

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Like I said it was her word over his word. Why is this being publicized in such a disgusting way

I don't see anything wrong with the article that was posted here to start this thread.   What is wrong or disgusting about it?   This was a known case all over the news and papers, and now the verdict is being made known.    They brought the attention on themselves by making a massive Satmar fundraiser to raise money for Weberman when he was facing trial.  Now he and his associates get what they deserve, and the rest of us also suffer because of their transgressions.

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also in such situations (one persons word over another) it is always better to let someone go instead of putting an innocent person behind bars.   
  Legal system doesn't work this way, and there were more than one but because of a culture of intimidation and ostracism, the other victims felt they could not step forward.

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  Besides this was in NYC who do you think was in the witness stand? MMhMM. and many people in general would love to see a Jew especially someone dressed like him behind bars or killed.   

His accuser is a chasidic woman who dresses like a chasidic woman.   Why would they want him in jail any more than they want her to lose her case?    You are blinded by your bias.

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Also the punishment is much more then the crime (in this case since she was more older) and not a child persay but a teen( still not good to do) but a teenager definitely have more choice and freedom then a child.

The US law considers a teenager a child.  She was underage.   And she was abused for 3 years from the age of 12 to age of 15.   And you say that this punishment is too much?! !?

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2013, 08:53:14 PM »
Vile. And you say you support Jews? All I see is how you go on and on and on and on and on about how these Jews are bad or those Jews are bad, how this or that is wrong with Jews or Jewish people and your a supporter of Jews correct? I see you only support 1, ookay 2 Jews, and that is about it.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2013, 08:54:39 PM »
  the last post (well from 4 posts back I guess) proves why these things should not be for the public like this. Pure Jew-hatred. Pure and simple. "Waiting" or whatever you call yourself now, does not understand these things and its a shame that we allow people from the outside to dictate what or who is a Jew and the inner questions in our Religion and people. And how is he going to destroy Satmar? How? Only by murdering them correct?

  It was in the papers, SOO? That makes the verdict correct? Like I said it was her word over his word. Why is this being publicized in such a disgusting way where these vile animals are gloating over the fact that an "Orthodox Jew" is being sent to prison. They got one very well. also in such situations (one persons word over another) it is always better to let someone go instead of putting an innocent person behind bars.
  Besides this was in NYC who do you think was in the witness stand? MMhMM. and many people in general would love to see a Jew especially someone dressed like him behind bars or killed.

 Also the punishment is much more then the crime (in this case since she was more older) and not a child persay but a teen( still not good to do) but a teenager definitely have more choice and freedom then a child.
Ahem, the victim was a Satmar Jew also, as is everybody connected to this case. So anti-Semites want to see justice for Jewish girls that were raped? Such is a strange breed of Jew-haters.

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What about the hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews (many, if not most, of them Satmars) who were murdered when the Satmar "rebbe" and his buttbuddy Adolf Kastner sold them out so that they could save their own hides? This human sewage deserves the worst of all curses.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2013, 08:54:58 PM »
What I am amazed by is that someone who openly flaunted halacha by having locked "counseling" sessions with teenage girls, and whose associates threatened the witness mafioso style, and together with other useful idiots ostracized the victim from the entire society, is being given the benefit of the doubt by Jews on the forum!? 

You should defer to Rabbi Yakov Horowitz and drop this matter.  Otherwise you just dig yourselves bigger holes.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 08:56:46 PM »

His accuser is a chasidic woman who dresses like a chasidic woman.   Why would they want him in jail any more than they want her to lose her case?    You are blinded by your bias.


 It doesnt matter. It is the same as a white right-wing Christian being in the stand for a Muslim against Muslim. Lets say it was a Muslim women wanting to put a Muslim man to jail, you think they wouldn't have a bias against the man and put him to jail (well they would be biased to make him guilty).

 Also we aren't posting the many sex abuse cases of churches and pastors and Christian people in general here are we? Yett this happens probably all the time.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2013, 08:57:52 PM »
Everything that the great DownwithIslam said about these chazirs is correct. This is a woman-hating Nazi cult, pure and simple.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2013, 08:59:22 PM »
It doesnt matter. It is the same as a white right-wing Christian being in the stand for a Muslim against Muslim. Lets say it was a Muslim women wanting to put a Muslim man to jail, you think they wouldn't have a bias against the man and put him to jail (well they would be biased to make him guilty).

 Also we aren't posting the many sex abuse cases of churches and pastors and Christian people in general here are we? Yett this happens probably all the time.
Yawn. You have no case so you are trying to drag the "Christian church" back into this as usual. Fine, whatever, you're right. But show me average Christians that defend pedophile pastors.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2013, 08:59:35 PM »
It doesnt matter. It is the same as a white right-wing Christian being in the stand for a Muslim against Muslim. Lets say it was a Muslim women wanting to put a Muslim man to jail, you think they wouldn't have a bias against the man and put him to jail (well they would be biased to make him guilty).

 Also we aren't posting the many sex abuse cases of churches and pastors and Christian people in general here are we? Yett this happens probably all the time.

I agree that these posts are not constructive as we dont know how people react to it. I see that these stories feed jew hatred. It is constructive to learn the laws of yichud in order to help prevent these kinds of things. I just hope that justice is served...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2013, 09:00:05 PM »
It is wise to read Rabbi Horowitz's explanations of this situation as well as his useful advice to parents.

http://www.rabbihorowitz.com/PYes/ArticleDetails.cfm?Book_ID=1630&ThisGroup_ID=238

9/28/12

What Went Terribly Wrong

Nechemia Weberman’s Trial on October 30th: Come to the Hearing – and Understand What Went Terribly Wrong

By: Rabbi Yakov Horowitz

Dear Readers: During these days leading up to Succos, our z’man simchaseinu, (time of collective joy), one might consider it inappropriate to write about topics that are far from joyous. However, having spent Rosh Hashana at an amazing and inspiring Madraigos retreat where there were more than a few abuse survivors in attendance, I feel compelled to release these lines at this time to fulfill a promise I made then to let the survivors among us know that they are not standing alone, and with the hope that it will result in safer practices among those in our community who are seeing help for their children. These lines are dedicated in memory of Yoni Polansky a“h (1994-2012).

Best wishes for a Gutten Shabbos and a Gutten Yom Tov.

Yakov

After many delays and much legal wrangling, Nechemia Weberman will finally stand trial in Brooklyn Criminal Court on October 30th for allegedly abusing a young girl in the Williamsburg community over a period of three years -- beginning when she was 12 years old.

Mr. Weberman is entitled to his day in court and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Having said that, quoting the Halachic terms employed in the Teshuva of Rav Elyashiv zt”l, there is clearly far more than “raglayim l’davar” (credible suspicion) in this case. In fact, all indications point to the inescapable conclusion that something is very, very wrong here.

What Parents Need to Know

One of the most important things frum parents – especially those in the “heimish” community – ought to be developing is a deep understanding of the norms and accepted practice in the mental health profession. Gaining this would allow devoted and caring parents the ability to obtain suitable professional help for their children who need it, and avoid the trauma associated with following the recommendations made by untrained, well-meaning folks (unfortunately, an all too frequent occurrence, one which sometimes creates horrific results).

Moreover, it would help undo the denial and cognitive dissonance of those who defend Weberman -- by pointing out how disturbing were the circumstances of his "treatment" of the young girls referred to him.

Don’t Ignore the Warning Signs

Think of it this way. Wouldn't alarm bells go off in your mind if a doctor performed an invasive procedure without using latex gloves or if he/she picked up a used syringe to give you an injection? Wouldn't you think it strange if you were a single mother and were requested to meet with your son’s Rebbe or principal at 9 p.m. one evening in a deserted Yeshiva building to discuss your son's progress?

What Went Wrong

Well, those of us familiar with the do's and don'ts of accepted practice in the mental health profession saw similar blaring warning lights in our minds, as should you when the facts were made public that Weberman:

1) Had unregulated access to many girls over a number of years in his inappropriate and illegal role as their unlicensed "therapist."

2) Had these young girls referred to him for counseling by very Chassidish schools, whose general level of gender separation far exceeds those of the typical "Bais Yakov" (and it would be exceedingly rare for non-Chassidish girls’ schools to regularly refer their Talmidos to a male therapist)

3) Engaged in private, unsupervised counseling sessions with young girls -- often in an office/apartment that contained a working bedroom -- violating all norms of Yichud and Tzniyus.

In addition to all these disturbing facts, it has become clear that these serious allegations are in fact not isolated ones. In fact, since Mr. Weberman's arrest, I was personally contacted by immediate family members of four additional alleged victims of his who are afraid to come forward, and those of us close to the community have heard similar reports from others as well.

All the victims – none of whom know each other and all of whom are terrified to go to the authorities because of fear of backlash from the community – report striking similarities in the MO of Weberman (his manner of working), fueling suspicion that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

What is most chilling is that each and every one of his victims who came to us is currently married; meaning that 1) this has been going on for a very long time, 2) if there are current victims who are single, they are even more terrified than the married women of coming forward, for fear that going public will ruin their chances of doing a decent shidduch.

Weberman’s case may very well be our community’s most important abuse trial during our lifetimes. It is imperative that we have a huge turnout in support of this courageous young lady who, may she be gezunt and ge’bentched, is determined to see this through to the end so others won't suffer like she did. Unbearable pressure is being brought to bear against her and her family to drop the case, which is one of the reasons that a show of support is so important.

Now That You Know

Those of us who work with abuse survivors respectfully implore you to please, please stand with this victim on October 30th, and with the other silent and silenced victims who are watching this case unfold very carefully, and with all survivors of abuse and molestation.

Please pass this on to your friends and family members and I hope to see you at the trial, heeding the timeless charge of Yeshayahu (Isaiah) (1:16) to “Seek justice [and] strengthen the victim.”

Yakov Horowitz

Director, Center for Jewish Family Life/Project YES www.kosherjewishparenting.com.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2013, 09:00:36 PM »
KWRBT you see the responses from some gentiles? Like I said I dont know the details of this case, but  I see some gentiles (and some Jews who always write against Judaism) gloating over these cases and using that to go against Jews as a whole as well.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2013, 09:00:53 PM »
Everything that the great DownwithIslam said about these chazirs is correct. This is a woman-hating Nazi cult, pure and simple.

Bullsh*t... You don't know any Satmar and your opinion is biased by much BS...

I have heard the opinions that they helped cause Jews to die in the shoah. I take that with a grain of salt... I have also heard the opinion that the Jews brought the Shoah on themselves because of the zionist movement... Maybe so, maybe not... The Three Oaths are difficult to understand without listening to several opinions.

I am of the belief that we are no longer held to the Three Oaths mostly due to the fact that the Nations of the World broke their part of the Oath by oppressing the Jewish people too much. Because they broke their oath the Jewish people have the right (along with the nations giving support through the Balfour Declaration and the Palestine Mandate) to establish the Jewish state. But it could be argued otherwise, and I am willing to work with those who think these oaths are still in effect.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2013, 09:01:54 PM »
Bullsh*t... You don't know any Satmar and your opinion is biased by much BS...
Are you forgetting the Satmars we have had on this forum?

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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2013, 09:02:54 PM »
Bullsh*t... You don't know any Satmar and your opinion is biased by much BS...

 Definitely. We don't go around calling his religion ( I will end it here, but you know what) we dont talk about his groups but he has the nerve to talk about our people even if some things are true or not. They pertain to our people and not him and his people.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2013, 09:04:07 PM »
Are you forgetting the Satmars we have had on this forum?

 Their are hundreds of thousands of them (I think). Their are soo many people with different beliefs and actions as well. Not saying I like or even know many of them or anything, but you always see everything in such black and white terms and things.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2013, 09:06:02 PM »
Are you forgetting the Satmars we have had on this forum?

There may have been very bad Satmars here. I would not be surprised. But as a whole, group of Hassidic Jews, they are Jews and we should attempt to rebuke them if we can, and only then can we curse them...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2013, 09:06:30 PM »
So Tag, I'm an anti-Semite because I don't believe Jewish girls should be raped by old pedophile cult members, fine, okay, you have proven your point. I do wonder though how you would feel if someone told your future girlfriend/wife that you feel that pedophilia is not a black-and-white matter--that might affect whether or not they want to have kids with you, after all.

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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2013, 09:08:43 PM »
KWRBT you see the responses from some gentiles? Like I said I dont know the details of this case, 

Your ignorance is not an excuse.   If you don't know, then read and find out.    It is your responsibility as a Jew.  And especially if you're going to comment on this case or the publicity surrounding it.

Rabbi Horowitz's site is public, on the internet, for any Jew or gentile to see.   His target audience is Jews, but a gentile can read his site and learn a lot about the frum community.   So what?    What are you so afraid of?    As I said before, this case was all over the news because the Satmar establishment clowns made a very ostentatious and public fundraiser rally for Weberman after he was accused!   They posted fliers for this event all over williamsburg and burough park.      They in their hubris and evil enabling of a vile beast, brought this case even more publicity than it would have had.   They and the criminal rapist himself are to blame for unfair gentile responses should they occur.     There is no reason to be silent about this because some gentile might see it and hate Jews.    There are tons of abuse cases in gentile communities.     Estimates say that 1 in 4 kids in secular society are abused!        So anyone pointing the finger only at Jews is clearly a nazi.     But that doesn't mean we don't have an abuse problem.

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but  I see some gentiles (and some Jews who always write against Judaism) gloating over these cases and using that to go against Jews as a whole as well.

I see one gentile on this forum (CF) who used this case to go against SATMAR as a whole.   But if you read the details of this case, that is actually deserved.    The Satmar establishment protected this criminal and intimidated the victim.    They are guilty guilty guilty guilty.       So how can I expect any different response from CF?       Isn't his response justified?

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2013, 09:09:27 PM »
Definitely. We don't go around calling his religion ( I will end it here, but you know what) we dont talk about his groups but he has the nerve to talk about our people even if some things are true or not. They pertain to our people and not him and his people.
And we shouldn't discuss the truth because?

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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2013, 09:10:21 PM »
KWRBT I'm not saying if he is guilty or not guilty. I dont know, etc. but I am saying their are more issues involved with these things. 1 of them is bias and the press and gloating that I mentioned another one is how and when someone is said to be guilty (even nothing having to do with Jewish or Chassidic or anything else). If someone is guilty on a word vs. word basis especially with jury system with not soo bring people it is very disturbing to see this because then anyone can be found guilty very easily. Imagine you were in a room alone with someone else (which is wrong but not something you should get life for) and then it was your word over her. what if you were then found guilty in such a case especially if you did nothing (or not to this extent) wrong. This by the way goes for all cases in general. It is usually said to let 1,000 people who did wrong free then put 1 innocent person to jail.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2013, 09:11:24 PM »
It is usually said to let 1,000 people who did wrong free then put 1 innocent person to jail.

But he's not innocent and for you to assume he is innocent is the height of folly.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2013, 09:11:50 PM »
So Tag, I'm an anti-Semite because I don't believe Jewish girls should be raped by old pedophile cult members, fine, okay, you have proven your point. I do wonder though how you would feel if someone told your future girlfriend/wife that you feel that pedophilia is not a black-and-white matter--that might affect whether or not they want to have kids with you, after all.

I dont think that is his point...

He said he doesn't know the case, that he believes that there may be some impropriety in the judgment. I think KWRBT has done the best to make the case that this particular guy was guilty of what he has been accused of. I will refrain from making a personal judgment other than to say I hope that the victims receive true Justice because I believe that a world without Justice is a world without Hashems providence.

Tag is sticking up for the Jewish people as a whole and the phenomenon that non-Jews will take any example of a Jew acting badly as a tool used against all Jews. While I agree we should be able to condemn evil-doers without any second thoughts, we should consider the bigger picture of how the Stormfronters look at this kind of news. Similar to the Catholic Church which has a black eye due to so much 'gay pedophilia' something like this may cause a black eye to all Chassidic Jewish sects.

So basically I agree with Tag on most of what he is saying. I will not go so far as to try to defend this guy in this particular case. It sounds to me that KWRBT has done more research into the case, and the thought that this guy would violate the Halacha of Yichud is just not very good (along with other improprieties).
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2013, 09:17:39 PM »
So Tag, I'm an anti-Semite because I don't believe Jewish girls should be raped by old pedophile cult members, fine, okay, you have proven your point. I do wonder though how you would feel if someone told your future girlfriend/wife that you feel that pedophilia is not a black-and-white matter--that might affect whether or not they want to have kids with you, after all.

 what when did I say that? I said that you see most things as black and white and I was referring to your comments on ALL the Satmar Chassidim, or your many previous comments on a host of people and issues like for example the Mafdal and Bennett and the elections in Israel and many many maany other issues as well.
 I do want criminals to deserve their due punishment but at the same time their is and should be a fair and unbiased due process in all cases.

 Also their was absolutely no point in making this discussion here at all.
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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2013, 09:20:22 PM »
But he's not innocent and for you to assume he is innocent is the height of folly.

KWRBT,

I believe Tag has good intention. While you may be right that in this case this man deserves what he got I also see Tags point that this kind of news is really only being posted to inflame hatred against one sect of Chassidic Judaism, which I have explained has good members who are not all evil... Despite your claim that the organization deserved this, I hope you do not hate the entire Satmar sect as a result.

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Re: Satmar Pedophile Pig Sentenced To Over 100 Years In Jail
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM »
But he's not innocent and for you to assume he is innocent is the height of folly.


 I didn't assume anything. Not him being innocent or him being guilty.

 Also like I said I see extreme biases against Jews as a whole and the more someone is "frum" or frum looking the worse the bias against them. It is like in Israel as well. Their can be 1,000 Hiloni thieves, but when someone dressed in "Frum" attire commits a theft, something that would never be mentioned if the person would be a hiloni or an Arab, they gloat and publicize the facts like their is no tomorrow. And the underlying psychological hatred that will and does then build up from ordinary people and the way it seeps into people's minds on the subconscious level.
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