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Presbyterian Church Increasingly Anti-Israel, Antisemitic
« on: January 29, 2013, 04:24:24 AM »
Pro-Palestinian activists, allied with anti-Jewish Protestant zealots, won a victory in 2004 when the church divested its $8 billion portfolio from companies doing business with Israel. A few days ago the Presbyterians and three other US Protestant denominations endorsed the Palestinian UN bid for statehood.

Meanwhile, the church just hold a conference in Louisville titled “Bible, Land and our Theological Challenge”. It embraced the “Kairos Document,” which says that Israeli security policies are “a sin against God”, likens the security fence to “apartheid”, rejects the Jewish State, supports terrorism when it talks about the “thousands of prisoners who languish in Israeli jails”, and proclaims that “resistance to the evil of occupation is a Christian’s right and duty.”

At the Louisville’s symposium, Rev. Eugene March, professor emeritus of Tanach at Presbyterian Seminary, said the Jewish right to the holy land is “invalid,” while Rev. Gary Burge, professor of New Testament at Wheaton College, said that “Jesus subverted the land politics of Judaism” and criticized “the territorial worldview of Judaism.” It is hard to imagine uglier slander.

The Presbyterian Committee on Mission Responsibility Through Investment just urged the General Assembly to fully embrace the so-called BDS movement and to divest from Caterpillar, Inc., Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola (a decision is expected in few months.) The Presbyterians own hundreds of thousands of shares of stock in these companies through their pension fund for retired workers and through foundations. The church accused these companies of selling helicopters, cellphones, night vision equipment and other items Israel uses to enforce its “occupation.”

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Some Jewish organizations have called the campaign “a recipe for Israel to disarm” and the Presbyterians’ actions “functionally anti-Semitic.” The church’s 2010 report, titled “Breaking Down the Walls” – characterized as “toxic”- legitimizes doubts about Israel’s right to exist and calls on the United States to withhold military aid to Israel.

According to the Camera watchdog group, the Mideastern Mission Network of the Church promoted anti-Jewish incitement even through Hezbollah-controlled television station al-Manar, including false allegations about Israel tunneling beneath the Temple Mount (which in the past have incited violence in Jerusalem.)

This week in Atlanta the Presbyterian Church hosted another symposium, “From Birmingham to Bethlehem”, likening Martin Luther King to the Palestinians. A main speaker was a Palestinian cleric, Father Naim Ateek, whose influence in contemporary Protestantism is immense, not least through his Sabeel Centre in Jerusalem. Ateek’s denunciations of Israel include imagery linking the Jewish State to the charge of deicide that for centuries fueled anti-Jewish bloodshed.

Writing in the Journal of Ecumenical Studies, Adam Gregerman observed that theologians like Ateek “perpetuate some of the most unsavory and vicious images of the Jews as malevolent, antisocial, hostile to non-Jews.” For example, Ateek wrote about “modern-day Herods” in Israel, referring to the king who the New Testament says slaughtered the babies of Bethlehem in an attempt to murder the newborn Jesus.

Indeed, many voices in the US are now suggesting that the Presbyterians have left behind the commitment “never again” to “participate in, contribute to, or … allow the persecution or the denigration of Jews” (from the 1987 Statement on the Relationship Between Christians and Jews.)

In the Middle Ages, the “mystery plays” that portrayed the Jews as the executioners of Jesus helped fuel burnings at stake and pogroms, until the Holocaust drove dark theology underground. The Presbyterian Church is now staging a XXI century mystery play, in which Israel is the Jew of the world.

Giulio Meotti, a journalist with Il Foglio, is the author of the book A New Shoah: The Untold Story of Israel's Victims of Terrorism
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Re: Presbyterian Church Increasingly Anti-Israel, Antisemitic
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 06:01:47 AM »
This Nazi snakepit is worse than the Muslims themselves.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 06:09:48 AM »
The Presbyterians are  disappearing entity so are all mainline Protestant Churches.The nly growing Church in the U.S. are Evangelical and Fundamentalist.You can look that up.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 06:12:56 AM »
The Presbyterians are  disappearing entity so are all mainline Protestant Churches.The nly growing Church in the U.S. are Evangelical and Fundamentalist.You can look that up.
There are quite a few "evangelical" snakes in sheep's clothing as well though.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 06:25:07 AM »
There are quite a few "evangelical" snakes in sheep's clothing as well though.
True whats that attention freak with the goatees name
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 06:29:06 AM »
True whats that attention freak with the goatees name
You probably mean Rick Whoren, but others are far worse, such as Bill Hybels, Jim Wallis, Tony Campolo, etc.

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 06:31:02 AM »
You probably mean Rick Whoren, but others are far worse, such as Bill Hybels, Jim Wallis, Tony Campolo, etc.
Yes thats who i mean. JimWallis is simply a leftist Dem Plant as well Tony Campolo
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 06:32:55 AM »
These chazirs were never Christians to begin with; Jesus did say that not all those who cry out "Lord, Lord" ever knew him. These beasts are no different from JINOs like Little Member Slitherstein.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 06:34:28 AM »
Bill Hybels and his wife actually have Arab Nazi "pastors" come and speak at their 50,000 seat bathhouse.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 06:35:00 AM »
These chazirs were never Christians to begin with; Jesus did say that not all those who cry out "Lord, Lord" ever knew him. These beasts are no different from JINOs like Little Member Slitherstein.
Your right and this is true
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Re: Presbyterian Church Increasingly Anti-Israel, Antisemitic
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 06:36:15 AM »
I'm quite sure that Kapo Weenie is one Jew that these "Christians" have nothing but love for and would never, ever accuse of being a "Christ-killer".

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 11:41:53 AM »
The Presbyterian church is also quite cozy with Hezbollah, from what I understand. 

I think they were also the ones that started that American University in Beirut. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 10:57:48 PM »
Alot of presbyterian churches in the new york area have korean members.  I guess they were converted by american missionaries and military people during the korean war.  And the UN Sec General, a real a**hole arabist, is Korean.  Hmmm.

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2013, 02:28:15 AM »
These chazirs were never Christians to begin with; Jesus did say that not all those who cry out "Lord, Lord" ever knew him. These beasts are no different from JINOs like Little Member Slitherstein.

Maybe the problem is that being christian is not good enough. These people are not actually born again / saved. Hell will be full of unsaved christians.

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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 03:42:26 AM »
It is a very sad development. But the mystery play has nothing to do with the Presbyterians. This is a catholic invention.

The actions of the Presbyterian Church in the USA have no foundation in theology - for shure not in presbyterian theology. I think they are already socialist atheists with a cloak of religion.

 Even I think it is a waste of time to study "Rev." Eugene March and  "Rev." Gary Burge contemplative incontinence. Why both of them didn't shift to a bolschewik University?
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Re: Presbyterian Church Increasingly Anti-Israel, Antisemitic
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2013, 03:55:57 AM »
The book by Giulio Meotti from amazon:
"Every day in Israel, memorials are held for people killed simply because they were Jews--condemned by the fury of Islamic fundamentalism. A New Shoah is the first book devoted to telling the story of these Israeli terror victims. It centers on a previously unheard oral history of the Middle Eastern conflict from the viewpoint of the Jewish victims and their families."

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2013, 04:19:03 AM »
It is a very sad development. But the mystery play has nothing to do with the Presbyterians. This is a catholic invention.

The actions of the Presbyterian Church in the USA have no foundation in theology - for shure not in presbyterian theology. I think they are already socialist atheists with a cloak of religion.

 Even I think it is a waste of time to study "Rev." Eugene March and  "Rev." Gary Burge contemplative incontinence. Why both of them didn't shift to a bolschewik University?
If we want to discuss "Catholic inventions" we need to discuss Lutheranism. Lutheranism is not really all that much different from Catholicism, at least in its original form and Martin Luther (ysv) himself never intended on leaving the Catholic Church and starting his own denomination whatsoever. In fact, the biggest difference is in the greatly exaggerated anti-Semitism. I have my differences of opinion with the RCC, but at least it's not *founded* on Jew-hatred. You can't say the same thing for Lutheranism.

As for Presbyterianism, historically it is a replacement theology denomination and that is always just a hop, skip, and jump away from full-blown Nazism. That combined with Marxist leftism is a recipe for genocide-mongering. There is, however, a more traditional and theologically conservative Presbyterian denomination, the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), and although it has much better positions on moral issues across the board than its sodomite, Babylonic big brother, it has not taken a position on Israel and the Jews: http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?21364-Presbyterians-and-Methodists-opposed-to-the-existence-of-Israel-at-all . Still, that's better than what the PCUSA brothel has done.

One comment on replacement theo--there is a certain percentage of Christians that believe in it, nominally, because that's what they were taught and don't really know any better. They are not really aware of the implications of this doctrine. I don't think these people are real Nazis--they just need to be awakened and told the truth.

Generally, it is the more Pentecostal and charismatic denominations that tend to be overtly and proudly pro-Israel. The very most philo-Semitic denomination of all is probably Calvary Chapel.