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Offline mord

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http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-britains-mi6-helps-palestinian.html#links   


 How Britain's MI6 helps the 'Palestinian Authority' torment suspects

It's widely known here that the 'Palestinian Authority' arrests and tortures 'Palestinians.' But until now, no one who was part of the torture apparatus had admitted it. Now, a former 'Palestinian Authority' officer has admitted that the 'Palestinian Authority' does what we always thought that they do. In a lengthy expose in London's Daily Mail                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301682/Hooded-hanged-left-agony-hours-end-Palestinian-security-chief-tells-tormented-suspects-MI6s-knowledge--reveals-Britain-helps-pay-33m-foreign-aid.html, he describes and attempts to justify what's been done. And Britain, along with the Untied States and the European Union, is paying for it (Hat Tip: Shy Guy).

    Nowadays, he adds, the preferred method is termed ‘shabeh’ – the hooding and tying of the prisoner in a variety of agonising positions for up to eight hours. He does not elaborate on the details, but claims: ‘It works with 95 per cent of the subjects.’ It also takes considerable skill: ‘You have to deal with it as if you were playing a guitar. Each case has its own speciality.’

    This extraordinary interview is the first admission by a former perpetrator of the widespread torture of Palestinians – not by Israel, but by the Palestinian Authority (PA) which governs the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

    It was given to me last week in a dusty Palestinian city. Across the table was a well-dressed, middle-aged family man with an infectious smile – a former PA official.

    He spoke only on the strictest condition of anonymity as he feared becoming a torture victim himself should his identity become public. But he wanted to speak out because he was sure that the ends – a Palestinian state and the defeat of extremism – justify the means.

    But perhaps the most shocking revelation is that torture sessions still being perpetrated by his former colleagues are financed with Britain’s help. Our taxpayers give £33 million direct to the PA, while £53 million is donated by Britain for various aid projects – more UK aid per head than we give any other nation.

    Then again, Britain’s Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, which has officers based in Jerusalem, works closely with the Palestinian agencies that carry out the torture, seeing them as sources of valuable intelligence.

    The UK also provides and pays for the training of middle and senior ranking officers from every PA security agency, including the General Intelligence Service or Mukhabarat, the Preventive Security Organisation, Military Intelligence and the ordinary police force. Ironically, the training includes courses on the need to respect human rights and the rule of law.

    Yes, the British are very interested in human rights,’ adds the Palestinian security man.

    ‘They say, “We can’t convince British taxpayers [to continue to fund the PA] if you violate them.” So we do our best. But it happens.’

    Just what ‘it’ means was described by a very recent victim, a professional man in his 40s who was freed without charge two weeks ago after more than a month in Mukhabarat detention.

    ‘For most of the time I was held, they gave me shabeh every day,’ he says. ‘Always I was hooded, and sometimes they tied my arms in front of me and attached me to the wall, leaving me like that for long, long hours, on tiptoes. You have pain in the arms, in the legs and in the body, and swelling in your muscles. Often I could also hear screaming from the prisoners.

    ‘But it was worse when they suspended me with my arms tied behind me. Your body is curved, like a banana. Most of the time they do not let your feet touch the ground.’ He showed me his arms and hands – they were still puffy and swollen. ‘During the shabeh, they looked much worse,’ he added.

    In another variant, the suspect was hog-tied – laid on his back on top of a chair with his wrists and ankles lashed together beneath the seat. Usually the torture happened at night: ‘When you’re exhausted, they take you back to your cell.’

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    It’s not just Britain that keeps the PA running – the US and EU are also major contributors to a £800 million a year aid package (15 per cent of the EU’s donation of £133 million comes from UK taxpayers).

    The reason why a territory with fewer than 2.5 million inhabitants gets so much money is political. The Israel-Palestinian peace process has produced no sign of a breakthrough for the past 20 years, but the international community believes the only way to create a Palestinian state is to build on the PA, which is also Israel’s negotiating partner.

    But with about a third of the PA budget being spent on its security agencies, the consequence of Western generosity has been the creation of a police state.

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    British Consul-General Sir Vincent Fean, who leads Britain’s diplomatic mission to the PA, has raised concerns with President Mahmoud Abbas and the PA prime minister, Salam Fayyad. But there have been no warnings that if the situation does not improve the flow of cash will stop.

    Mohammed Jamil, head of the UK-based Arab Organisation for Human Rights, which has published several reports on PA abuse, said such visits were futile. ‘They have been going for years, but nothing has changed. Britain has the power to stop the torture, but it will require much tougher action,’ he said.

    The ICHR’s Ms Siniora added: ‘There is no doubt things are getting worse. Last year, we inspected one prison where there was clear evidence of shabeh – we saw the hooks on the walls. But as our 2012 report will say when it is published, not one of the cases of torture that came to light has been properly investigated.

    ‘There is no accountability. There is a culture of impunity – there has not been a single case of an official involved in torture being prosecuted.’

    On Wednesday, she added, she was visited by a senior British official from Jerusalem. ‘I told him, “You are supporting the security agencies and you are training them. You have a very big responsibility for ensuring that your taxpayers’ money is not spent on torture.” ’

    But PA torture does not often make UK headlines. And liaisons are close between MI6 and the Mukhabarat, the very agency responsible for the worst abuse.

This is nothing compared with what they would do to Jews if God forbid they are ever given the opportunity. And you wonder why we don't want them to set up their reichlet on our borders?
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They torture each other, they arrest and jail people for "insulting" the fakestinian government, they kill each other, they parade the dead bodies on the street, they execute people who sell property to Jews, they torture and execute gays. They mistreat and take over the property of Christians. They commit honor killings against women. They parade themselves with grenades, riffles and swastikas.

It makes you wonder, if Fakestine were a country...what kind of country would it be? In another dimension-  let's say that Israel had not been recreated in 1948. Let's take that out of the picture and what would we get?

1) There would be no "Palestine", the area would have been called something else... "Southern Jordan", "Islamic State of Jerusalem" or something of the like.
2) It would be a hated country. Constantly accused of crimes against humanity and run by some islamic dictator.

That's the reality that the world fails to see! The fact that deep down, we all know what kind of country this would be. A nasty, death hell hole. No, fakestine doesn't need Israel to be a hell hole, Fakestine is already rotten on the inside. Just as many fakestinians are rotted on the inside, and spread that rottenness and blackness of the heart to those who champion the "poor fakestinians" against Israel. One day, Israel will be vindicated.




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It is sad, but US, France and Gb are the main supporters of crimes against humanity now. They pretend to fight for human rights, but the people they train, they give weapons to are murderers.
I think the main objective of this states is to murder as many Christians and Jews as well as other religious minorities in north Africa, the near und middle east in order to create a monolithic conservative Sunni Islamice bloc.
The motivation for this is a mix of self-hate, oil-bribe-money, and decadence that encourages cruelty, like in the Roman empire. I hope soon bankruptcy comes and robs the western world of their resources to do evil.
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http://europenews.dk/en/node/59564
Gaza Strip: Hamas ‘abusing Palestinians’
Casa Grande Dispach
October 8 2012

An international rights group said Wednesday that Hamas security forces in the Gaza Strip commit rampant abuses against Palestinian prisoners, including beatings with metal clubs and rubber hoses, mock executions and arbitrary arrests, and urged the Islamic militant group to swiftly reform its criminal justice system.

In a new 43-page report, Human Rights Watch documented a long list of abuses that it said Palestinians in Gaza endure under the justice system run by Hamas, which has ruled the seaside strip for the past five years.

"There is ample evidence that Hamas security services are torturing people in custody with impunity and denying prisoners their rights,” said Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director for the New York-based group. "The Gaza authorities should stop ignoring the abuse and ensure that the justice system respects Palestinians’ rights.”

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http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=8636
UK Parliament debates hate incitement and UK funding of PA, based on PMW findings
Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Mar. 17, 2013   
 
UK Parliament scrutinizes Palestinian hate incitement, terror glorification and British funding of PA in debate examining PMW findings

MP Ellman: "The matters... are truly shocking and put a question mark over the status of the Palestinian Authority as a partner for peace"

MP Henderson: "No peace agreement will be able to guarantee...peace if a generation of Palestinians is growing up indoctrinated to hate Israel, Jews and the West"

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Actually the Palestinians have nothing to do with the Philistines.
The Palestinians have nothing to do with the name Palestine.
The name Palestine is named after the Philistines, not the Palestinians or any Arab group.
The name Palestine was applied by the Romans against the Jews to destroy the name Israel.
It was certainly not directed or bestowed to the Arabs in this area.
The Philistines were from Crete and came to Israel 3000 years ago and were not Arabs or Muslims.
Delilah and Goliath were Philistines. (Philistines died out.)  Philistine is the name the Romans renamed Israel as a chagrin against the Jews.

The name Palestine belongs to the Philistines. Being that the Philistines were totally non-muslim, no Arab people, srael and all Jews should embark on a legal battle in the same vein, as the defeat of David Irving in London in 2000. The Arabs have no right to the name Palestine. And if the Palestinians were descendants of the Philistines, then what are they doing in Israel, they should go back to Crete, where they came from.

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Any kind of help or support to arabs is inhuman too.
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