Catholic League attack Minutemen

[newman]

Catholic League Getting Desperate Claims Minutemen Are 'Anti-Catholic'
By Digger


The "Catholic League", a rogue group of the Catholic church, knows it is in the wrong regarding illegal immigration. St Peter's Church in Fallbrook, California headed by Father Edward “Bud” Kaicher in particular has been repeatedly breaking federal law by assisting illegal aliens directly with acquiring work. They even admit it in this latest press release below.

However they seem to be getting desperate at attempting to make groups that protest their illegal actions look like racists and now they have stepped so far as to call them "Anti-Catholic". This is simply outrageously false of course and just shows the nature of the leaders of this church and the Catholic League as a whole. To present a diverse group of American patriots as being against a single religious group is unconscionable.

Catholic League



July 10, 2007




SAN DIEGO MINUTEMEN GIN UP CATHOLIC BASHING


Yesterday, the Catholic League criticized the anti-Catholic bigotry displayed by the San Diego Minutemen against St. Peter’s Church in Fallbrook, California. The anti-illegal immigrant group is protesting the cooperation that the church’s pastor, Father Edward “Bud” Kaicher, has shown in helping day laborers find employment in the San Diego suburb.

Today, the group accused the Catholic League of creating “hatred amongst Catholics nationwide against Americans standing up for what’s right and legal.” It also accused the illegal immigrants of increasing “crime and disease in our communities,” and said that the “corrupt Catholic church” was committing “outrageous crimes and deeds.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue responded as follows:

“We have learned that the San Diego Minutemen are unaffiliated with either the Minuteman Project or the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps. As such, our comments are solely directed at the San Diego Minutemen.

“The Catholic League is calling upon non-Latino Catholics in Southern California to join with Latino Catholics to condemn the flagrant anti-Catholic bigotry of the San Diego Minutemen. Regardless of whether one is sympathetic or not to the plight of illegal immigrants—and/or the grievances of legal immigrants—there is one issue that all fair-minded persons should be able to agree upon: there is no role for bigotry in this dispute.

“We are prepared to work with other Catholic organizations in the San Diego area to put an end to the Catholic bashing. To think there can be a realistic chance of achieving reconciliation without first addressing the issue of anti-Catholicism is pure nonsense.”



It doesn't take much to read between the lines of the above press release from the Catholic League. They want "non-Latino" Catholics to join them in trying to stop the Minutemen and residents of their community from using their constitutional right to protest. I can guarantee you that if St. Peter's stopped aiding and abetting illegal aliens and breaking the law then the protests would stop.

This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with breaking our laws so that they can make a buck off their new church-going illegal aliens. As always if you follow the money you'll find the reason.

Here is a response from the protesters.

Father Bud knows he needs to close that illegal day labor center. He knows he is violating Federal law and subject to ICE raids. The sooner he closes the DLS, the less damage he will do to the Catholic Church. Americans are overwhelmingly opposed to what he is doing there! Americans, Catholics, Protestants and even Hispanic Americans call for the immediate closure of this site and an end to the flagrant anti-American bigotry of the Catholic League!
Our comments are solely directed at the Catholic League based in New York City and any Catholic entity that supports their campaign of hate and lies against good American citizens.

All media are encouraged to check with the Fallbrook Sheriff's Dept. at 760-451-3100 to confirm that all three protests so far have been 100% peaceful except for one incident where some Latino Catholics coming out of the church verbally assaulted a Hispanic American Family protesting the church's hiring site and then spit on one of our protesters on the public sidewalk. The Sheriffs were watching nearby and responded and restrained the vigilante church-goers before they could carry out their threats of violence.



The only thing I'd disagree with above is calling these criminals who assaulted the protesters, "vigilantes". A vigilante is someone who enforces the law on their own terms. These assaults had nothing to do with enforcing the law and everything to do with hatred of our rule of law and any who want immigration laws to be enforced. In addition they were obvious hate attacks on someone of their same race they consider a "race traitor"

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[mord]

BILL DONOHUE??? HE USED TOP BE NORMAL

[newman]

BILL DONOHUE??? HE USED TOP BE NORMAL

So did allen-t.

[nessuno]

Unbelievable...How can the church be on the law breaking side.
That is the question that always comes to my mind.

I had a Priest tell me that Americans hate bill clinton just because they are sex obsessed.    
I tried to explain that it was because he was carrying on on company time with a subordinate and he broke the law.
He could have carried on right where the President resides with his wife present and most of us would not have cared.
No answer.
So siding with the illegals makes no sense to me if you are a religious law abiding person.  I know why they do - but can't figure how they think it is not hypocritical.

[mord]

Bill Donohue was a stand up guy

[nessuno]

Bill Donohue was a stand up guy

I agree he always seemed like a stand up guy.

[RationalThought110]

Unbelievable...How can the church be on the law breaking side.
That is the question that always comes to my mind.

I had a Priest tell me that Americans hate bill clinton just because they are sex obsessed.   
I tried to explain that it was because he was carrying on on company time with a subordinate and he broke the law.
He could have carried on right where the President resides with his wife present and most of us would not have cared.
No answer.
So siding with the illegals makes no sense to me if you are a religious law abiding person.  I know why they do - but can't figure how they think it is not hypocritical.

The pope, especially, has been irrational.  Despite being declared an infidel by the jihadists, the pope wants them all over Europe. 

[nessuno]

I agree.
It just makes no sense to anyone with any RationalThought process.  
Good screen name by the way!

[EagleEye]

Without being anti-Catholic, it must be rationally noted that the Catholic Church and a few Catholic organizations do seem to be supporting a pro-Amensty agenda.

I'm sure there are many Catholics who do not agree with them.

[newman]

It's simply a question of butts on seats and $$....ie: survival.

All the established churches are facing a crisis, none more than the catholic church. There congregations are shrinking and getting longer in the tooth.....as are their clergy. They are facing extinction in the western countries in a century or less. Allready the church is bringing clergy from turd world countries to fill the desperate shortages of priests in the west. In shear desperation they are doing something to try and insure their survival. That is....getting a mass injection of catholic latinos to put their brown butts on the seats and $$ in the plates. The church is so desperate to survive in the short to medium term they don't care if they destroy the USA in the process.

[EagleEye]

An excellent point.  Its nothing that is "wrong" with the religion of course, its just a drive for cheap labor.

If we look at corporations, its a similar situation, only its not for religious "jobs."

[cjd]

It's simply a question of butts on seats and $$....ie: survival.

All the established churches are facing a crisis, none more than the catholic church. There congregations are shrinking and getting longer in the tooth.....as are their clergy. They are facing extinction in the western countries in a century or less. Allready the church is bringing clergy from turd world countries to fill the desperate shortages of priests in the west. In shear desperation they are doing something to try and insure their survival. That is....getting a mass injection of catholic latinos to put their brown butts on the seats and $$ in the plates. The church is so desperate to survive in the short to medium term they don't care if they destroy the USA in the process.

That about sums it up you are exactly right newman. The Catholic church has done a great bit of good in the world however it also has the power to influence things that cause problems for countries like America. As I am writing this post it dawned on me that the R.C Church is very much in the same situation as the Republicans are in . They want to get their hands on the Latinos because of the shear numbers however they risk loosing their original members. As I see it when push comes to shove they will cut the original members loose in favor of the new however the way I see it in both cases they will be getting nothing but a pig in a poke.

[newman]

That's right. They'll sell out what's left of their Irish / itallian / polish congregation for the lure of the $$ a large latino flock can throw in the plate. This is short sighted as it will just p*ss main street USA off and hand ammo to the growing pool of R.C.C. bashers. They're also wrong to assume the US born future latino generation will stay in the church.

[nessuno]

That's right. They'll sell out what's left of their Irish / itallian / polish congregation for the lure of the $$ a large latino flock can throw in the plate. This is short sighted as it will just p*ss main street USA off and hand ammo to the growing pool of R.C.C. bashers. They're also wrong to assume the US born future latino generation will stay in the church.

Exactly.
Again I ask - Newman - do you ever sleep? - greater then 2000 posts - Congratulations - I think   Just joking.

[snowshoe]

A lot of the Minutemen are  Roman Catholic, including several of their leadership.  I worked with several on the "fence".
They were good dedicated patriots.

 

[newman]

That's right. They'll sell out what's left of their Irish / itallian / polish congregation for the lure of the $$ a large latino flock can throw in the plate. This is short sighted as it will just p*ss main street USA off and hand ammo to the growing pool of R.C.C. bashers. They're also wrong to assume the US born future latino generation will stay in the church.

Exactly.
Again I ask - Newman - do you ever sleep? - greater then 2000 posts - Congratulations - I think   Just joking.

You talkin' to me?

[EagleEye]

Too many people are resorting to name calling, "racist," "anti-catholic" etc. as a political mechanism to stop the advance of valid movements and arguements.

[mord]

After looking into this i found out bill Donohue was just talking about the Fallbrook chapter thats where nazi Metzger has his group it's called white aryan resistanse.It may very well be that this minuteman chapter is a metzger front  this might explain it



http://www.catholicleague.org/07press_releases/quarter_3/070710_sd_minutemen_2.htm

SAN DIEGO MINUTEMEN GIN UP CATHOLIC BASHING

Yesterday, the Catholic League criticized the anti-Catholic bigotry displayed by the San Diego Minutemen against St. Peter’s Church in Fallbrook, California. The anti-illegal immigrant group is protesting the cooperation that the church’s pastor, Father Edward “Bud” Kaicher, has shown in helping day laborers find employment in the San Diego suburb.

 

Today, the group accused the Catholic League of creating “hatred amongst Catholics nationwide against Americans standing up for what’s right and legal.” It also accused the illegal immigrants of increasing “crime and disease in our communities,” and said that the “corrupt Catholic church” was committing “outrageous crimes and deeds.”

 

Catholic League president Bill Donohue responded as follows:

 

“We have learned that the San Diego Minutemen are unaffiliated with either the Minuteman Project or the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps. As such, our comments are solely directed at the San Diego Minutemen.

 

“The Catholic League is calling upon non-Latino Catholics in Southern California to join with Latino Catholics to condemn the flagrant anti-Catholic bigotry of the San Diego Minutemen. Regardless of whether one is sympathetic or not to the plight of illegal immigrants—and/or the grievances of legal immigrants—there is one issue that all fair-minded persons should be able to agree upon: there is no role for bigotry in this dispute.

 

“We are prepared to work with other Catholic organizations in the San Diego area to put an end to the Catholic bashing. To think there can be a realistic chance of achieving reconciliation without first addressing the issue of anti-Catholicism is pure nonsense.”

[fjack]

One of he reasons that I gave up being a Catholic is because of the leftest leanings of the the whole organization. I don't remember where it is written in the Constitution that religious organizations are immuned to obeying laws. I don't even know why they are tax exempt. This is nuts. Why should they not pay taxes so they can shelter, feed and give clothes to these lawbreakers, This does not compute. If they don't like our laws they it stands to reason that they don't like the tax exemption they get, so take it away.