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Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« on: April 28, 2014, 05:54:40 AM »
For example, say someone is currently in a state of being righteous but then in the future he is going to be a murderer? Would Hashem be considering the future that he is going to be a murderer or bring blessings upon the person for this righteousness now? Or what if Someone made a sin and was going to do tshuvah but was rebellious at the moment?

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 10:59:47 AM »
I heard that if someone will be righteous in the future, Hashem can and does take it into account. BUT OTOH if someone will be a criminal (wicked) then G-D doesn't hold him accountable now for the sins he could commit in the future.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 04:42:10 PM »
I heard that if someone will be righteous in the future, Hashem can and does take it into account. BUT OTOH if someone will be a criminal (wicked) then G-D doesn't hold him accountable now for the sins he could commit in the future.

Indeed, this is why Ishmael was not allowed to die of dehydration in the desert when Hagar was banned from Abrahams house.

It was asked why, if Ishmael was going to be an enemy of the Jewish people in the future, G-d did not allow him to die there in the desert. The answer was that we are all judged for what we do and are doing, not for what we will do, and if at the time we are righteous we are not punished for transgressions made in the future.

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 04:49:42 PM »
Rashi makes this comment on the story of the banishment of Hagar and Ishmael:

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/in-depth/default_cdo/aid/58818/jewish/In-Depth.htm

For G-d has heard the voice of the lad where he is (21:17)

The ministering angels hastened to indict him, exclaiming: "Sovereign of the Universe! Would You bring up a well for one who will one day slay Your children with thirst?" "What is he now?" asked G-d. "Righteous," said the angels. Said G-d: "I judge man only as he is at the moment."

(Midrash Rabbah; Rashi)
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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 05:05:44 PM »
Indeed, this is why Ishmael was not allowed to die of dehydration in the desert when Hagar was banned from Abrahams house.

 I heard this before. It does not make sense. Ishmael, already was a Rasha. He got banished because he was a Rasha that engaged in evil deeds including- idol worship (killing grasshoppers and such), trying to murder Yitzhak by shooting arrows at him and claiming he was only playing, and sexual immorality- raping women and such.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 05:08:26 PM »
I heard this before. It does not make sense. Ishmael, already was a Rasha. He got banished because he was a Rasha that engaged in evil deeds including- idol worship (killing grasshoppers and such), trying to murder Yitzhak by shooting arrows at him and claiming he was only playing, and sexual immorality- raping women and such.

Here is what Rashi says about this:

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8216#showrashi=true

where he is: According to the deeds that he does now he is judged and not according to what he is destined to do (Rosh Hashanah 16b). For the ministering angels were accusing and saying,“ O Lord of the Universe, for one who is destined to kill Your children with thirst, You are bringing up a well?!” And He answered them, “What is he now, righteous or wicked?” They replied, “Righteous.” He said to them, “According to his present deeds I judge him” (Gen. Rabbah 53:14). And that is the meaning of “where he is.” Now where did he kill the Israelites with thirst? When Nebuchadnezzar exiled them, as it is stated (Isa. 21: 13f.): “The harsh prophecy concerning Arabia, etc. Toward the thirsty bring ye water, etc.” When they led them beside the Arabs, the Israelites said to their captors, “Please lead us beside the children of our uncle Ishmael, and they will have mercy on us,” as it is stated:“the caravans of the Dedanites.” Do not read דְדָנִים (Dedanites) but דְוֹדִים (uncles). And these [Ishmaelites] went forth toward them and brought them salted meat and fish and inflated skins. The Israelites thought that they were full of water, but when one would place it into one’s mouth and open it, the air would enter his body and he would die (Tan. Yithro 5).
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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 05:11:29 PM »
There are varying opinions, according to what I find, about why he was saved... He was not evil becuase of his will to be evil, as Essau was, but rather according to some because of his bad upbringing by Hagar... But Hagar, in the end, does Teshuva...



http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/vayeira/020.htm

Isaac was a model of perfection, his greatest test was when he was nearly sacrificed. His greatest test was not to fight human battles, but to demonstrate that he was totally devoted to Hashem, living a holy life in the holy land. Hagar and Ishmael could not be around Isaac. Hagar was a woman who would leave her son to die in order to avoid the unpleasantness of being with him when he dies. Hagar was not a good person. She would’ve be a terrible influence on Isaac.

So why is Ishmael banished as well? In many modern sciences, from medicine to psychology and sociology, the terms 'inherited traits' and 'environmental influences' are thrown around quite a bit. As far as these two terms are concerned, Ishmael wasn't in a great situation. Genetically, he had both Abraham and Hagar as parents. This was half of a good mix. But environmentally, he had very little to go on. He was raised by his mother and she was a fundamentally bad influence. By extension, he would have been a bad influence on Isaac, and Isaac wasn't to have bad influences. Isaac had so little experience with evil that he didn't even recognize Esau for who he really was. So Ishmael had to be banished as well.

Why wasn't Ishmael killed though? His descendants certainly caused the Jews enough trouble. Why didn't Hashem allow him to die in the desert? While modern scientists and pseudo-scientists might throw around genetics and environment as the determining factors in a person's life, there is a third item that in Judaism trumps both of them. That third item is will. Ishmael didn't choose to do anything bad. He might have had a poor upbringing, but he wasn't a bad guy. Unlike Esau, who shared a home and parents with Jacob but turned out to be a tremendously bad person, Ishmael didn't have the will to do evil. Because of his own merit, because his lack of an evil will, Hashem rescued him. While Ishmael wasn't a bad guy, he wasn't a tremendously good one either. It was Isaac who willfully acquiesced to his own sacrifice on an altar to Hashem. Isaac had the good will, the good genetics and the good environment. It was Isaac who was the whole package and the inheritor of Hashem's blessing.

This story teaches us that people can be poor influences just because they have been raised in the wrong environment and they haven't had the will to make themselves better. Ishmael was such a person. Although Ishmael didn't do anything bad, his descendents did. They took the lessons passed down from Hagar and they acted on them, they combined their will with their environment and they did evil things. If the Arabs of today are Ishmaelites, as they claim, they still haven't broken this cycle. Despite a long period of civilization and peace, the Arabs have reverted to their nomadic tendencies. They haven't successfully developed societies of their own, other than societies built on networks of deadly competition -- between son and father, brother and brother, family and family, clan and clan, country and country, and Muslim and infidel. They haven't learned how to and they haven't demonstrated the will to try to build a settled society. On the contrary, they have demonstrated the will to destroy, the will to do evil and the will to kill the innocent out of hatred. While this is a broad sketch and hardly indicative of individuals, it remains true of the 'Arab nation.' Had Ishmael been like this, or even been like Hagar -- he would have died in the desert.
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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 05:13:04 PM »
There is no question that he must have had merit, or else Hashem would not have sent the angel to save Hagar and Ishmael..

It seems most commentaries and sages believe Ishmael made a complete Teshuva before he died.

http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/chayei/002.htm

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 05:53:39 PM »
 “What is he now, righteous or wicked?” They replied, “Righteous.”

 I don't agree with this Midrash.
 
 He was wicked, and that is why he was sent out. In fact it wasn't only Sarah who said to banish him, but it was also G-D who said to do so.

 
"There are varying opinions, according to what I find, about why he was saved... He was not evil becuase of his will to be evil, as Essau was, but rather according to some because of his bad upbringing by Hagar... But Hagar, in the end, does Teshuva...  "

 He was grown. Being son of Hagar doesn't justify his actions. He was also the child (biologically) of Avraham. Yet he choose the evil path and wanted to do harm to Isaac, did harm to other women, molesting and raping them and did Avodah Zara in killing grasshoppers and sacrificing them to other "gods".

 About Hagar, that's an opinion. Possibly Ketura was Hagar. But also very possibly not. Either way its not so relevant to Ishmael in particular.
 
 PERHAPS you can say that the opposite can be true. Ishmael was saved POSSIBLY because in the FUTURE he did Teshuva (according to those who say and agree that he did Teshuva).
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2014, 05:56:14 PM »
G-D "regrets" 4 things. One of them is Ishmael (starting from page 18 of the file or # 182 on the page).
 

http://www.divreinavon.com/pdf/GodRegretsFourThings.pdf

 In fact their even Rashi himself mentions the fact that Ishmael was "Metzachaik"
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2014, 06:13:34 PM »
The Torah clearly relates that Ishmael assisted Yitzak in burying Avraham...

Here is a discussion of where Ishmael stands:

http://www.meaningfullife.com/currentevents/sept11/IshmaelCOLON_How_Does_it_EndQUESTION.php
   
Ishmael: How Does it End?
By Simon Jacobson
November 8, 2001


Ishmael did teshuvah (Rashi Chayei Sarah, Genesis 25:9)

They [Ishmael’s descendants] overran all their brethren (25:18)

On the face of all his brethren he will dwell (16:12)

On the face of all his brethren he fell (25:18)

While Abraham was alive he [Ishmael] dwelled; after Abraham’s death he fell (Rashi)

‘On the face of all his brethren he fell’ is followed immediately by ‘and these are the children of Isaac,’ to teach us that the son of David, who stems from the children of Isaac will sprout when Ishmael will fall at the end of days, then will sprout the son of David, who stems from the children of Isaac (Baal HaTurim end of Chayei Sarah)

He [Ishmael] will be a wild man. His hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand will be against him (Genesis 16:12)


Abraham 1948-2123
Ishmael 2034-2171
Isaac 2048-2228
Jacob 2108-2255

And so the story continues…

Following the events of Abraham and Sarah’s lives - the birth of Isaac, the expulsion of Ishmael at Sarah’s behest, Abraham offering Isaac to G-d (the Akeidah) - this week’s Torah portion (Chayei Sarah) brings this chapter of history to a close.

Sarah passes away at the age of 127 and is buried in the Machpeilah Cave in Hebron, which Abraham purchases from Ephron. Abraham sends his servant Eliezer to find a bride for his son Isaac. Eliezer returns with Rebecca and she marries Isaac. Abraham passes away at the age of 175, and is buried beside Sarah by both his sons, Isaac and Ishmael.

The portion concludes with the chronicles of Ishmael. It delineates his twelve children, who become twelve princes that establish the Arabian nations. Ishmael dies at the age of 137. The final verse of this week’s portion is: “[Ishmael’s descendants] lived in the area from Havilah to Shur, which borders on Egypt, all the way to Assyria. They overran all their brethren.”

Thus ends the story of Ishmael son of Abraham. In each of the last three Torah portions Ishmael plays a prominent role: in Lech Lecho Ishmael is born, with the promise to Abraham that he would be a great nation. In Vayeira, Sarah insists that Abraham send him away. Finally in Chayei Sarah, his life ends and his progeny documented.

Interesting to note that the concluding chapter of Ishmael is included in the portion called Chayei Sarah, the life of Sarah. Sarah was not Ishmael’s mother; indeed, she actually caused Ishmael to be banished from Abraham’s home. Why then would the Torah place Ishmael’s final legacy in the chapter titled “the life of Sarah”?!

Was Ishmael a Tzaddik?

Rashi, the great classical Torah commentator, tells us that Ishmael did teshuvah (repented) before Abraham passed away.[1] Indeed, the expression “vayigveh” (he breathed his last) used to describe the death of Ishmael, is only used in regard to tzaddikim.[2] Some commentaries explain that through his teshuvah he transformed all his sins into virtues, thus his entire life was ultimately redeemed.[3]

Being the son of Abraham was the ostensible cause for Ishmael’s teshuvah. Yet, it was Sarah’s banishing Ishmael that ultimately caused him to return to the right path.

Abraham felt that the best way to influence Ishmael was through love and kindness. However G-d tells Abraham that he should defer to Sarah and send Ishmael away. Because chesed (love) that is not balanced with gevurah (discipline) can ultimately turn destructive. Rain without discipline will flood the fields; rain must fall in drops so that the earth can absorb the moisture.

Ishmael “will be a wild man.” He inherited the passionate faith of Abraham. However passion must be tempered and channeled with gevurah lest it consume others, “his hand will be against everyone.” As it turns out (at the end of today’s Parsha), that Ishmael’s descendants “overran all their brethren,” “at the end of days the children of Ishmael will initiate wars in the world.”[4]

Thus G-d tells Abraham to heed Sarah’s gevurah approach, to send Ishmael away. This was not meant to destroy Ishmael, rather by banishing him he will become a great nation, as G-d promises Abraham. Ishmael cannot live in the same home with Isaac. Only with the appropriate measure of discipline can Ishmael grow. On the face of all his brethren he fell – Ishmael did teshuvah and was humbled (‘fell’), and that elevates him (his tikkun).[5]

Ishmael’s teshuvah and the summation of Ishmael’s life is therefore specifically placed in the portion of Chayei Sarah: Sarah’s life and influence, particularly in regard to disciplining Ishmael, was instrumental in Ishmael’s return to Abraham’s faith.[6]

The conclusion of Sarah’s life (the end of Parshat Chayei Sarah), the climax of her achievements, is her impact on Ishmael: Sarah’s gevurah approach causes that ‘on the face of all his brethren he fell.’ And from Ishmael’s fall at the end of days will sprout Moshiach, who stems from the ‘children of Isaac.’

Thus concludes the story of Ishmael son of Abraham – a story of aggression, banishment, but also a story that concludes with hope and redemption.

 

[1] Genesis 15:15. 25:9.

[2] Ibid 25:17.

[3] Maskil l’Dovid at the beginning of our portion.

[4] Zohar II 32a.

[5] See Klei Yokor at the end of our portion.

[6] We derive that Ishmael did teshuvah from the fact that he participated in Abraham's burial. Since Sarah influenced Ishmael's return, the verse (25:10) emphasizes that Ishmael's participation in Abraham's burial is connected with the fact that Abraham was laid to rest together with Sarah.
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Re: Does Gd get mad about sins in the future? Opinon or halakha?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 06:20:37 PM »
Here is more on the story of the banishment of Ishmael, and the judgment of his character.



http://www.artscroll.com/Chapters/temh-018.html

Ishmael at the End of Days

The Torah states (Genesis 25:9): “And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him (Abraham) in the Cave of Machpelah in the field of Ephron the Hittite.”

Rashi explains that Ishmael repented of his sins, as evidenced by his allowing Isaac to walk before him (see Bava Basra 16b). It is difficult to understand, however, how a simple act of respect such as this atones for the sins of idolatry, murder, and adultery, all of which Ishmael committed (see Rashi ibid. 21:9).

Abraham knew that his leaving Egypt when the famine in Israel ended, set the stage for his descendants’ eventual Exodus from that land. This explains the desire that he expressed to Sarah, to obtain gifts from the Egyptians. He was setting the precedent for his children to follow when they left Egypt -- to leave laden with gold and silver treasures.

There was, however, another aspect to Abraham’s departure from Egypt which was replicated, to disastrous effect, during the national Exodus. This was the addition of Hagar, Pharaoh’s daughter, to Abraham’s family. Her symbolic counterpart was the Eirev Rav, the riffraff who attached themselves to the Jewish people and instigated many sins. Initially, however, the Eirev Rav were dazzled by the display of G–d’s might during the plagues, just as Pharaoh was impressed by Sarah’s ability to call upon G–d and His angels to protect her from his advances. A lingering effect of Sarah’s defense of her purity was the extreme level of chastity evinced by the Jewish women in Egypt, which was on so high a level that the one exception, Shlomis bas Divri, is noted in the Torah precisely because she was the only exception.

However, Hagar’s legacy for all time was Ishmael, at whose hands the Jewish people suffered, more than from any other nation (see Maimonides, Iggeres Teiman).

The Torah tells of Hagar’s scorn for her mistress upon learning that she, Hagar, had conceived. “She is a hypocrite,” thought Hagar. “She acts like a righteous woman, but she is not! She did not merit conception all these years, whereas I conceived immediately!”1

Subsequent events seemed to confirm Hagar’s suspicions in her own mind. When she began to belittle Sarah, Sarah responded by increasing Hagar’s work load to such an extent that Hagar ran away to the desert. While in the desert, she was visited by an angel, who merely told her to return and tolerate Sarah’s abuse, without justifying Sarah’s behavior. He also blessed her and foretold Ishmael’s birth. From this encounter, Hagar left the desert even more convinced of Sarah’s wickedness and her own rectitude.

It was, therefore, with utter disbelief that she heard of G–d’s prophecy to Abraham (Genesis 17:15-19): “... and I will give you from her (Sarah) a son ... and you shall call him Isaac; I will fulfill my covenant with him as an eternal convenant, and to his seed after him.” After convincing herself of Sarah’s unworthiness, it was impossible for Hagar to accept that Sarah’s son, not hers, would inherit Abraham’s legacy. However, the fallacy of her thinking became apparent all too soon.

Scripture states (Genesis 21:9): “And Sarah saw that the son of Hagar the Egyptian, that she bore to Abraham, was mocking.” This is an allusion to the grave sins that Ishmael committed. It also refers to his constant fighting with Isaac over their inheritance. As the firstborn, he would stridently demand a double portion, and even menace Isaac by occasionally shooting arrows in his direction.

Abraham was greatly saddened upon being told by Sarah of his son’s proclivities. He demonstrated his displeasure -- some even call it hatred (Rashi ibid. 21:14) -- by sending Ishmael away with only bread and water, but no gold or silver. In this incident, Ishmael is deliberately identified as “the son of Hagar the Egyptian that she bore.” She bears direct responsibility for his slide into degeneracy, for she degraded Sarah in Ishmael’s eyes, and thus neutralized that righteous woman’s influence over him.

There came a time, though, when Ishmael renounced his sins. The Torah tells of “two lads” that accompanied Abraham on his way to the Akeidah (the binding and near-sacrifice of Isaac). Rashi identifies these “lads” as Eliezer and Ishmael. Abraham accepted Ishmael back into his home because he had repented of his evil. This is borne out by Abraham’s response to G–d’s request that he take the son “whom you love,” and sacrifice him. Abraham replied, “I love them both,” for he had accepted Ishmael’s penitence

However, Ishmael’s penitence was not complete. He repented for his sins of idolatry, murder, and adultery; however, he did not recant his denial of Isaac’s firstborn status, an idea reinforced by his mother, and he maintained his claim, as Abraham’s oldest son, to a double portion of the inheritance. It was only at Abraham’s burial, an event redolent of Messianic overtones (as was Jacob’s -- see Ramban, Genesis 48:27) that he indicated his acceptance of Isaac’s primacy by allowing his younger brother to walk before him. Only at that point could it be said of Ishmael, as the Midrash states, that he truly repented.

Ishmael’s personal odyssey inexorably played itself out in the saga of his people. The Arabs, too, worshiped idolatry, until the advent of Mohammed, who led them to believe in one G–d. However, they continue to deny Isaac’s legitimacy to this very day. Just as Ishmael saw the light only at Abraham’s burial, the Arab people will do so only with the arrival of the Messiah.

The issue of Isaac’s legitimacy in the eyes of the world was always cause for study. The Mishnah states (Ethics of the Fathers 5:4) that Abraham was tested ten times. Both Maimonides and Rabbeinu Yonah count (as two separate trials) the two times Sarah was abducted: once by Pharaoh and once by Abimelech, the Philistine of Gerar. Although both trials have an obvious common denominator, the test of Abimelech added a new dimension. Since it was only after being abducted by him that Sarah conceived, the talk on the street was that Isaac was Abimelech’s child. Would Abraham allow the boorish talk of the multitudes to darken his faith, or would he wholeheartedly believe that Isaac was his son, as G–d had promised him, stating, “In Isaac shall your seed be called”? This, then, was Abraham’s test, one that he passed with flying colors.2

The words of the Netziv (Haamek Davar to Genesis 18:15) provide a reason for Abimelech’s abduction of Sarah. He maintains that this was a punishment for her disbelieving laughter upon being told that she would bear a son. The meaning behind his words, it seems, is that Sarah was being punished “measure for measure,” a penalty to match the sin. She laughed and said, “My husband is old,” too old to father children. So in retribution, the riffraff muttered that Isaac was indeed not Abraham’s son. This notion continued to undermine the Jewish people’s claim on the land of Israel. For if Isaac were really the son of Abimelech the Philistine, he and his descendants who occupy the land of Israel are all Philistines, not heirs of Abraham. False though it was, a vestige of this claim remained, in that the land of Israel was, for 2,000 years, called “Palestine”.

The attempt to undermine Isaac’s paternity was not confined to the streets. On the verse that describes Ishmael as a mocker, Sforno explains that Ishmael, too, lent his voice to the clamoring chorus of those denying his brother’s lineage. His intention, of course, was to delegitimize Isaac, and then claim that he was the sole heir of Abraham, thereby inheriting all of Israel for himself. This is in contrast to the understanding of Rashi, who explains (ibid. 21:10) that Ishmael merely demanded a double portion as the firstborn, not the entire inheritance.

In our times, there are two groups disputing our possession of Israel: the “sons of Ishmael” and the “Philistines.” These stem from the two different ways that Ishmael has treated Isaac’s descendants. The “sons of Ishmael,” represented by the Arab world as a whole, are resigned, in the framework of world politics, to the necessity of conceding a portion of the land of Israel to us (Sanhedrin 91a). On the other hand, the “Philistines” (or, to use a more familiar appellation, the Palestinians), are represented by extremist terrorist groups such as Hamas. They do not wish to yield even an inch in their claims of proprietorship over the entire land.

In a spiritual sense, the source of this bitter strife is Sarah. In the Ramban’s opinion, Ishmael’s oppression of her descendants is a punishment for her abuse of Hagar. Furthermore, due to her skepticism at G–d’s promise, she was taken by Abimelech, which cast a generations-long shadow over the legitimacy of her child.

When Ishmael deferred to Isaac at Abraham’s burial, his actions revealed that he admitted both that Isaac was truly Abraham’s son, and that Isaac was the true heir. Thus it can be said that Ishmael truly repented. His children followed his lead by rejecting idolatry through their embrace of Islam in Talmudic times. However, we will have to wait until the End of Days to witness the acceptance of G–d’s prophecy to Abraham, “In Isaac shall your seed be called,” by the nations of Ishmael.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14