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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/christians-are-the-worlds-most-persecuted-people-so-why-doesnt-anybody-hear-our-cry-30464194.html

Christians are the world's most persecuted people, so why doesn't anybody hear our cry?

One woman, at least, is safe. Throughout much of her pregnancy, she had been in prison in Khartoum, capital of the Republic Sudan, living with the dread expectation that she would be hanged once her baby was born.

Her crime was that she had married a Christian and been accused by the authorities of apostasy, renouncing her faith, even though she maintained she had never been a Muslim in the first place. On Thursday, Meriam Ibrahim's eight-month ordeal finally ended when she was flown out of the country to Rome where she, and her new baby daughter, met the Pope in the Vatican.

But it has been a different story for the 3,000 Christians of Mosul who were driven from their homes in northern Iraq last week by Islamist fanatics who broadcast a fatwa from the loudspeakers of the city's mosques ordering them to convert to Islam, submit to its rule and pay a religious levy, or be put to death if they stayed. The last to leave was a disabled woman who could not travel. The fanatics arrived at her home and told her they would cut off her head with a sword.

Most people in the West would be surprised by the answer to the question: who are the most persecuted people in the world? According to the International Society for Human Rights, a secular group with members in 38 states worldwide, 80 per cent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed at Christians. The Centre for the Study of Global Christianity in the United States estimates that 100,000 Christians now die every year, targeted because of their faith – that is 11 every hour. The Pew Research Center says that hostility to religion reached a new high in 2012, when Christians faced some form of discrimination in 139 countries, almost three-quarters of the world's nations.

All this seems counter-intuitive here in the West where the history of Christianity has been one of cultural dominance and control ever since the Emperor Constantine converted and made the Roman Empire Christian in the 4th century AD.

Yet the plain fact is that Christians are languishing in jail for blasphemy in Pakistan, and churches are burned and worshippers regularly slaughtered in Nigeria and Egypt, which has recently seen its worst anti-Christian violence in seven centuries. The most violent anti-Christian pogrom of the early 21st century saw as many as 500 Christians hacked to death by machete-wielding Hindu radicals in Orissa, India, with thousands more injured and 50,000 made homeless. In Burma, Chin and Karen Christians are routinely subjected to imprisonment, torture, forced labour and murder. Persecution is increasing in China; and in North Korea a quarter of the country's Christians live in forced labour camps after refusing to join the national cult of the state's founder, Kim Il-Sung. Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the Maldives all feature in the 10 worst places to be a Christian.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 08:22:23 AM »
Per capita, I say Jews, but there are more of them to be persecuted.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 08:25:19 AM »
Per capita, I say Jews, but there are more of them to be persecuted.

Yes agree. The numbers of persecuted Christians are much higher specially with groups like Boko Haram and ISIS at the moment.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:32:54 AM »
Yes agree. The numbers of persecuted Christians are much higher specially with groups like Boko Haram and ISIS at the moment.

Per capita, you still get spot #2 i think.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 09:48:37 AM »
What is horrendous is the silence.

I mean with the Jews, everyone makes a big deal...whether in support or against.

But I hear virtually little about the Christians in Iraq and in other Muslim countries.  And they are getting murdered in the most gruesome ways.


I will add that much of the mainstream media is financed by the Saudi princes.  Therefore they do what they can to vilify Israel when they defend themselves and keep quiet when Muslims kill Christians who can't defend themselves.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 10:05:11 AM »
I think you are right about the news media. Like now, thousands of idiots are on the streets to support the Hamas terrorists but not one on the streets for the thousands of Christians that have been persecuted and killed last months.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »
I think you are right about the news media. Like now, thousands of idiots are on the streets to support the Hamas terrorists but not one on the streets for the thousands of Christians that have been persecuted and killed last months.
Let's face a large amount of Europeans are secular they feel no kinship with the Christians in the mid east.I have seen in The U.S. 3 or 4 shows maybe more of the persecution of Christians.America still has alot of non Secular people.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 10:22:12 AM »
Let's face a large amount of Europeans are secular they feel no kinship with the Christians in the mid east.I have seen in The U.S. 3 or 4 shows maybe more of the persecution of Christians.America still has alot of non Secular people.

They only thing the westeren Churches/Christians do is praying for the persecuted... 99% of the Christians (my own people) are cowards comparing to the muslims.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 10:52:54 AM »
Probably:
#1 Jews
#2 Christians
#3 others like Buddhism, Hinduism,
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 11:15:10 AM »
Probably:
#1 Jews
#2 Christians
#3 others like Buddhism, Hinduism,

Time to make the persecuter the persecuted! All religions against Islam!
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 11:24:33 AM »
Jews
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 11:51:31 AM »
Time to make the persecuter the persecuted! All religions against Islam!

YES!

I would like to know where muslim persecution ranks.... but more specifically how many of them are persecuted by other muslims vs. number persecuted by non-muslims.

Not that I would have any sympathy for the muslims, just interested in knowing since they are always crying about muslim persecution..... I would bet the number pales in comparison to all the people muslims persecute.

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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 12:48:26 PM »
I strongly disagree that Christians are the worlds most persecuted people. That honor goes to us, the Jews. We have been persecuted in virtually every land we have lived. We have been persecuted by Christians in their lands, by Muslims in their lands...

And I find it a bit sad that we, the Jews, have been saying this would happen to the Christians for many years 'First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...' but the Church would rather stick it's nose up the smelly muslim rear-end than realize that they really hate ALL infidels, not just the Jews...

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 01:01:40 PM »
First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people, then the Thursday people. Then they all together will obliterate the Friday people.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 02:53:08 PM »
It is neck and neck if you don't count secular, in-name-only Christians as part of the equation.

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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2014, 02:55:00 PM »
I think its almost unanimous that Jews are the most hated people on the face of the earth. Except in Asia where they are either ignored or used as money makers.
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Re: Christians: The world's most persecuted people. Agree or disagree?
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2014, 03:31:25 PM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/358506/thank-god-there-are-almost-no-jews-syria-now-lela-gilbert


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In my book Saturday People, Sunday People: Israel through the Eyes of a Christian Sojourner, I describe the expulsion of 850,000 Jews who fled or were forced to leave Muslim countries in the mid 20th century. I juxtapose this underreported tragedy with the present persecution of Christians in those same lands.

The Islamist motto, “On Saturday we kill the Jews, on Sunday we kill the Christians” — or, more tactfully, “First the Saturday People, then the Sunday People” — isn’t just a slogan. It’s a plan for religious cleansing, pronounced by radical leaders and enacted by jihadi warriors.

Today, nearly all the Saturday people are gone from the countries that were their homelands for centuries, even millennia.
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