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War....What a interview...
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: ABDUL AZIZ on October 11, 2006, 08:37:02 AM ---Hello,
Keyser that was a fantastic interview and highlights how the media has covered up and is continuing to cover up what is really happening in the real world.
People on this forum fail to notice how the real picture is distorted by the media and in need of some serious education!!!!
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So educate us. ;)
ABDUL AZIZ:
--- Quote from: Scriabin on October 11, 2006, 10:36:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: ABDUL AZIZ on October 11, 2006, 08:37:02 AM ---Hello,
Keyser that was a fantastic interview and highlights how the media has covered up and is continuing to cover up what is really happening in the real world.
People on this forum fail to notice how the real picture is distorted by the media and in need of some serious education!!!!
--- End quote ---
So educate us. ;)
--- End quote ---
Hi Scribian,
I don't think it is in my position to educate you or this forum, we are able to discuss but education can be done individually. Instead of being so one minded and having such a strong hatred for Muslims why don't you look at the bigger picture? I appreciate that you are Jewish and I am Muslim, but the fact of the matter is on both sides there lies fundamentalists that have torn the two religions apart.
The fact of the matter is Jews, Christians and Muslims lived together for centuries. Anti-semitism is not in the Holy Quran. Nevertheless, some think it is due to a number of isolated verses taken out of context because they fail to realize that any attack against non-Muslims should only be in self defense, as stated in the Holy Quran.
Furthermore the Holy Quran states that an individual living in a non Muslim country should live by and abide by the laws of the country. However just because of n isolated number of misguided souls acting irrationally (such as the acts of the London bombings and indeed 9/11) a whole religion cannot be held accountable.
Finding peace can only occur when the fundamentalists who use the verses of the Holy Quran for their own selfish motives or what they believe to be a holy war are brought to justice for their mindless killings of innocent men, women and children......Only then will we be able to find peace!
There once was a time when we were able to live alongside each other and If we look at history, the media has perceived that Islam was spread by the sword, but this was not the case. In 1099, the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem and massacred its Muslim and Jewish inhabitants indiscriminately, in the name of the gentle Jesus. At that time, 400 years into the occupation of Palestine by the Muslims, Christians were still the majority in the country. Throughout this long period, no effort was made to impose Islam on them. Only after the expulsion of the Crusaders from the country, did the majority of the inhabitants start to adopt the Arabic language and the Muslim faith - and they were the forefathers of most of today's Palestinians.
Furthermore for many centuries, the Muslims ruled Greece. Did the Greeks become Muslims? Did anyone even try to Islamize them? On the contrary, Christian Greeks held the highest positions in the Ottoman administration. The Bulgarians, Serbs, Romanians, Hungarians and other European nations lived at one time or another under Ottoman rule and clung to their Christian faith. Nobody compelled them to become Muslims and all of them remained devoutly Christian. True, the Albanians did convert to Islam, and so did the Bosnia-ks. But nobody argues that they did this under duress. They adopted Islam in order to become favorites of the government and enjoy the fruits.
So this hatred for Islam and Muslims stems from the misconception that all Muslims are terrorists and believe that all non-Muslims must be converted......The fact that the fundamentalists do not help our cause in finding peace and instead has further aggravated other religions to segregate Islam as seems to be the case in this forum. Whereby the mindless acts of the terrorists has contributed to this further.......
Please reply, your views are greatly appreciated in allowing me to understand your views.
wonderfulgoy:
--- Quote from: ABDUL AZIZ on October 12, 2006, 05:57:46 AM ---
Anti-semitism is not in the Holy Quran.
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WRONG!
And for the evildoing of those of Jewry, We have forbidden them certain good things that were permitted to them, and for their barring from G-d's way many, and for their taking usury, that they were prohibited, and consuming the wealth of the people in vanity; and We have prepared for the unbelievers [i.e. those Jews who are not Muslims] a painful chastisement
- 'Women', lines 155-160
the Jews who listen to falsehood, listen to other folk, who have not come to thee, perverting words from their meanings, saying, 'If you are given this, then take it; if you are not given it, beware!'
- 'The Table', lines 45-48
The Jews have said, 'G-d's hand is fettered.' Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said ... We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection
- 'The Table', lines 65-70
Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers [Muslims] are the Jews; and thou wilt surely find the nearest of them in love to the believers [Muslims] are those who say 'We are Christians'
- 'The Table', lines 85-87
And those of Jewry - We have forbidden them what We related to thee before, and We wronged them not, but they wronged themselves
- 'The Bee', lines 115-120
The likeness of those who have been loaded with the Torah ... is as the likeness of an ass ....
- 'Congregation', lines 5-6
The Koran reads like Mein Kampf. Was Muhammad a German?
>:(
wonderfulgoy:
As for Galloway - he is a Scotchman who is an elected MP in London, and he earns a lot of money, wears fancy suits, and smokes expensive cigars. He basically just says what his Paki constituency want to hear, because he no longer cares about the working class in his own country (Scotland). He is a typical worthless piece of excrement and he should die slowly and painfully of cancer in a flea-ridden Muslim hospital ward.
keyser:
Get thee hence Satan
Hey lets not get personal on here....the paki remark is racist!...Thats your narrow view of him...but at the end of the day he is a MP who the british people love!
I mean the comments you made seem personal, what u have said have no grounds! Also in reply to your eariler post my man Abdul has answered your perfectly!
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