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For angryChineseKahanist
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:39:45 AM »
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Chinese olim have Golani Brigade in their sights

Three members of the ancient Jewish community of Kaifeng who made aliya five years ago are about to enlist in the IDF, and all three want to join the fabled combat unit.

Itamar Eichner
Published:    11.29.14, 15:22 / Israel News
   

All three were born in China, in the ancient Jewish community in Kaifeng. They immigrated to Israel some five years ago and recently completed their conversion and naturalization processes. In two weeks, they'll report to the Israel Defense Forces' Induction Center in Tel Hashomer and join the army. Despite their relatively advanced age (all three are 25 years old), they are dreaming of enlisting in the Golani Brigade.

 

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The three – Moshe Li, Gideon Fan and Yonatan Xue – are the first Jews from the Kaifeng community to enlist in the IDF.

 

From left to right: Gideon, Yonatan and Moshe (Photo: Eran Barzilai)
From left to right: Gideon, Yonatan and Moshe (Photo: Eran Barzilai)

 

They immigrated to Israel in 2009 with the help of Shavei Israel, an organization that reaches out to descendants of Jews around the world in an effort to strengthen their connection with Israel, and completed their conversion and naturalization processes last year. The Kaifeng community numbers around 1,000 individuals who, despite much assimilation, still maintain ties to Judaism.

 

Recent years have seen a fascinating awakening among the descendants of the Kaifeng Jewish community, and especially among the youth, who are seeking their roots and identity. Some are undergoing conversion and returning to Judaism; and there are those, too, who wish to immigrate to Israel.

 

Michael Freund, chairman and founder of Shavei Israel, which has been in contact with the community for quite some time and even employs a special representative there, managed a few years to get the Interior Ministry's approval to bring Moshe, Gideon and Yonatan to Israel, and personally financed their immigration and absorption costs. Shavei Israel also helped to enroll the three in a yeshiva and support them through their conversion process and integration in the country.

 

The three will now try to fulfill another dream on their way to becoming rank-and-file Israelis – to join the Golani.

 

"The fact that Moshe, Gideon and Yonatan have decided to enlist to defend the country is very moving," Freund says. "This is the first time Jews from Kaifeng are donning IDF uniforms. The Jews of Kaifeng are the thread that links the Jewish and Chinese nations, and I hope we will be able to bring many of them to Israel in the near future."

 

Golani troops with brigade commander Colonel Ghassan Alian during Operation Protective Edge. (Photo: IDF Spokesman)
Golani troops with brigade commander Colonel Ghassan Alian during Operation Protective Edge. (Photo: IDF Spokesman)

 

"I am the only son of parents who remained in China," says Yonatan Xue, one of the three young men who will soon join the IDF.

 

"I began the conversion process before arriving in Israel. I studied dentistry for about three years and I worked at a hospital in China. I have always dreamed of serving in Golani, and I am very excited about enlisting in the army. I am very happy to be getting the opportunity to make new friends in the unit and become part of Israeli society through the army."

 
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The Kaifeng community is believed to have its roots among Iranian Jewish merchants who arrived in China centuries ago.

 

Although the Kaifeng Jews have long since assimilated almost entirely (and are required therefore to undergo conversion), their descendants continue to uphold certain Jewish customs: They refrain from eating pork, bake matzo on Passover, say the blessing over the wine on Sabbath eves, and light Hanukkah candles.
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Re: For angryChineseKahanist
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 07:19:11 AM »
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I knew it! See I'm Jewish!
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 07:22:38 AM »
:::D
I knew it! See I'm Jewish!
it's possible i meet a Jewish guy from China in Florida he was Jewish
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 01:15:08 PM »
The Kaifeng Jews were assimilated and are not Jewish due to intermarriage. Did the ones that made aliyah have a proper conversion?


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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 01:16:54 PM »
it's possible i meet a Jewish guy from China in Florida he was Jewish


There are many Jews from China but the ones that are still Jewish today are not ethnic Chinese but rather Ashkenazic or Sfardic Jews that lived in China. There is someone from my synagogue who is an Iraqi Jew and his parents were born in China. Also, many Ashkeneazic Jews came to China during the Holocaust.


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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 01:45:53 PM »
Angry: Please tell me where there is good kosher Chinese Restaurant.  Anyone else's suggestion welcome.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 09:49:13 AM »
Angry: Please tell me where there is good kosher Chinese Restaurant.  Anyone else's suggestion welcome.

in nyc?
I only know of
http://www.chinatownvegetarian.com/
Its not spectacular. I go there to avoid lard.
I knew a guy who lived in forrest hills queens, nyc. there's lots of very good kosher chinese restaurants there. he says its safe because rabbis inspect them.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 01:44:39 PM »
Yes!
The Kaifeng Jews were assimilated and are not Jewish due to intermarriage. Did the ones that made aliyah have a proper conversion?

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 01:48:18 PM »
in nyc?
I only know of
http://www.chinatownvegetarian.com/
Its not spectacular. I go there to avoid lard.
I knew a guy who lived in forrest hills queens, nyc. there's lots of very good kosher chinese restaurants there. he says its safe because rabbis inspect them.

 Not too sure if it is Kosher. I think its open on Shabbat as well. Anyway a name like "Budda" ?

 Their are many Glatt Kosher Chinese restaurants in NY.  Where exactly are you (or him) looking for? Queens Manhattan? 5 Towns?
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 03:04:04 PM »
Not too sure if it is Kosher. I think its open on Shabbat as well. Anyway a name like "Budda" ?

 Their are many Glatt Kosher Chinese restaurants in NY.  Where exactly are you (or him) looking for? Queens Manhattan? 5 Towns?


the other guy is asking. but it would be good to know of kosher places just to avoid lard. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 03:10:10 PM »

the other guy is asking. but it would be good to know of kosher places just to avoid lard.

 If you in Queens their are many good one's. If you want take out (cant sit in and eat) go to "soysauce" , their website is "soysauceusa.com"  Its in Mainstreet.

 Their is one in union turnpike (near Chaim's location) also in Queens its called "Annie Chans. You can eat in as well. The food is good. Both Sushi and Chinese food.

 Another good one but more expensive than the above 2 (food tastes better though) is "Cho-sen Garden" . In Queens 108th Street. (also in the 5 towns as well).

http://www.chosengarden.com/ 
 
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 Their are others as well, but I would say I'm familiar with those and the food is good.

 
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 03:51:46 PM »
Not too sure if it is Kosher. I think its open on Shabbat as well. Anyway a name like "Budda" ?

Their are many Glatt Kosher Chinese restaurants in NY.  Where exactly are you (or him) looking for? Queens Manhattan? 5 Towns?


That's the only kosher one in Chinatown. It's owned by Chinese goyim. They have imitation meat there. So even imiatiation "pork" is kosher there but I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't eat the imitation beef either. I prefer vegetables and noodles over fake meat.

The kosher meat Chinese restaurants are owned by Jews.



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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 03:58:09 PM »


That's the only kosher one in Chinatown. It's owned by Chinese goyim. They have imitation meat there. So even imiatiation "pork" is kosher there but I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't eat the imitation beef either. I prefer vegetables and noodles over fake meat.

The kosher meat Chinese restaurants are owned by Jews.

 Not true. Not all of them. At least the one in Union (the one I listed) are owned by Chinese non-Jews. Also the one in Mainstreet and other Chinese/Sushi restaurant also in Mainstreet (forget its name but its fairly new) are all owned by non-Jews. (I think the same family). They serve meat as well.

 The other's I'm not sure if owned by Jews or non-Jews but I know Soysauceusa is owned by Jews. 

So that's already 3 out of the 4 that I know that are owned by non-Jews and they all sell meat (chicken/beef etc.) They have reliable Hasgaha though.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 04:02:51 PM »


That's the only kosher one in Chinatown. It's owned by Chinese goyim. They have imitation meat there. So even imiatiation "pork" is kosher there but I wouldn't eat it. I wouldn't eat the imitation beef either. I prefer vegetables and noodles over fake meat.

The kosher meat Chinese restaurants are owned by Jews.

 I think the issue is the Hasgaha (I don't know who it is), the fact that its open on Shabbat + if the Hasgaha is no good than an issue with bugs in the vegetables. (If they check and remove or not).
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 09:17:44 PM »
I think the issue is the Hasgaha (I don't know who it is), the fact that its open on Shabbat + if the Hasgaha is no good than an issue with bugs in the vegetables. (If they check and remove or not).


I heard it's Orthodox. But I know the kosher vegetarian ones in Chinatown in Philadelphia are Conservative. For some reason, the only kosher restaurants in Chinatown are vegetarian. I guess because they target vegetarians that want to eat Chinese food. In Jewish neighborhoods, they target Jews that keep kosher.