Obama on Capitalism vs. Communism

[nessuno]

Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/25/obama_forget_the_difference_between_capitalism_and_communism_just_decide_what_works.html

[syyuge]

If Obama supports capitalism then what is communism.

[Chiram]

In short, he's a socialist (and a lousy orator).

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

This gives lie to obama's claim about "superior" Cuban life expectancy due to free medical care.   They fudge the numbers to make it sound good.   There are frequently drug shortages of important medicines there, so it's hardly relevant that medicine is "free."   

The fact that their life expectancy is even as high as it is (after you account for fake numbers and false accounting, maybe it's not that much lower than US), is because many people often lack food to eat, due to socialism.   Eating less does make people healthier and very very likely live longer.  It is undeniable at this point.   Of course, it also can make people starve if it happens for too long a period of time or with too extreme of a lack of food.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=14497

Communist regimes are known to falsify and distort statistics, but they rarely get away with it unless Western media play along.  They scored a big hit recently with data about Cuba's storied life expectancy, says Investor's Business Daily (IBD).

According to 2007 CIA World Factbook cited by the Associated Press (AP):

    Cubans live an average of 77.08 years, with men at 74.85 and women at 79.43.
    But in its praise-filled report, the AP missed that this actually represents a decline in life expectancy.
    The year before, the average was 77.41 with men at 75.11 and women at 79.89.

This may reflect that Cubans aren't living in steady conditions through their lifetimes, as much of the media asserts, says IBD.  With a 1990 cutoff of aid from the Soviet Union, there has been a huge decline in living standards.  Sanitation, housing, food and critical vitamin shortages have all become far worse.

Nevertheless, the question remains: How do you have a long life expectancy with increasingly deteriorating conditions?  You change the way you count, as Cuba has done, says IBD:

    If a newborn doesn't live more than 24 hours, it often doesn't show up in infant mortality statistics.
    The figure is depressed even further by abortion; at seven in 10 pregnancies, Cuba's abortion rate is Latin America's highest.
    Cuba also has one of the world's highest suicide rates, which also doesn't show up in expectancy data.

Andy S. Gomez, assistant provost of the University of Miami's Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies, says Cuba's sunny life span numbers seem to conceal another larger issue -- the country's rapidly aging population.  It has 11.2 million people, and only 2.2 million were born after 1992.  If its young people emigrate, Cuba's statistical average life expectancy could be even higher, he said.  And that's nothing to brag about.

Source: Editorial, "Cuba's Long Lie Expectancy," Investor's Business Daily, April 27, 2007.
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[nessuno]

I had the displeasure of watching the Michael Moore movie on healthcare.
Did anyone else sit through that drivel?
The Cuban hospitals are antiquated.  It is a wonder that anyone survives any illness there.
What good is free poor healthcare?  Or living under persecution?  Yep.  That adds to longevity.

I am embarrassed to say that some of my healthcare coworkers stood up and clapped at the end of the movie.      My reaction was more like 
Really?  I wonder why they didn't stay in the Phillipines to live and work.  They escape that lifestyle and then they are clapping for 'third worldism'.

But where is the outrage against Obama?
And why are the young people all for Bernie or Hiliary?
We are a sick society.  My Father's generation would never have stood for this.
I think the generation that accepts this from their President is going to have to suffer under it's realization, to correct itself.  Poor us who realize already.

[Zelhar]

How many cutting edge therapies came out of Cuba or the entire Communist block for that matter?

[Lisa]

Since when has communism ever worked anywhere?

As for Cuba's so-called free health care, I hear that it's a total dump over there, and that doctors end up becoming cab drivers to support themselves. 

It reminds me a post I put up on my (now defunct) blog.  There was this American man, a lawyer who was either engaged to be married, or who just got married, and who was diagnosed with aggressive tuberculosis.  His doctor told him he shouldn't go out of the country.  But sure enough he did.  Then started to really feel ill.  It was at this point that he decided he didn't want the "free" European health care.  He somehow finagled his way onto a flight from Italy to Canada.  From Canada, this idiot snuck back into the states. 

Now I don't know what became of this man.  But I hope those other passengers on that plane sued him to bankruptcy.