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The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« on: August 13, 2017, 01:14:29 AM »
This is from The Jewish Press.

Nasa’s website reports that on Monday, August 21, all of North America will be treated to an eclipse of the sun:

“Anyone within the path of totality can see one of nature’s most awe inspiring sights – a total solar eclipse. This path, where the moon will completely cover the sun and the sun’s tenuous atmosphere – the corona – can be seen, will stretch from Salem, Oregon to Charleston, South Carolina. Observers outside this path will still see a partial solar eclipse where the moon covers part of the sun’s disk.”

Indeed cities in this line are preparing for record tourists who they anticipate will want to witness this “awe inspiring sight.”

But will they understand why it is indeed awe inspiring?

The Gemara in Sukkah (29a) says that a solar eclipse is a sign of grave things coming to the world. The Gemara offers the following parable: This can be compared to a human king who made a feast for his subjects, and placed a lantern before them. When he became angry with them, he told his servant, “Take away the lantern from before them, and place them in darkness!”

The explanation is clear: Hashem is the King, we are the subjects and the sun is the lantern. Removing the light and making people sit in darkness is a form of punishment. Thus the awe-inspiring sight of a solar eclipse is in fact intended to inspire awe; namely that we, subjects of the King of Kings, have not found favor in His eyes.

The Gemara continues and quotes a Braisa that cites four possible things that can cause a solar eclipse: a head of a beis din that died and was not properly eulogized; a betrothed girl who cried out in the city for someone to save her and no one came to her rescue; for mishkav zachor; and for two brothers who were murdered simultaneously. Rashi on the Gemara says he does not know what connection any of these things has to the sun. However, be that is it may, they do have a connection, and for any of these things the sun can become eclipsed, denoting an ominous sign.

Of the travesties listed in the Gemara the one that is most obviously becoming more rampant is mishkav zachor. Liberals across the world have corrupted societies and infiltrated them with these disgusting behaviors and demanded tolerance towards these actions. Regretfully they have intruded and invaded our holiest city. Jerusalem now hosts a parade for these sick people. Sadly it should be pointed out that the parade only marches in West Jerusalem, for in East Jerusalem they would likely be stoned. Why must we have so much tolerance for an act that the Torah considers a capital offence, and is classified by the Torah as an abomination?

Regarding the other sins on the list I would suggest that the betrothed girl who cried out in the city for someone to save her and no one came to her rescue could refer to anyone who is helpless in any situation and cries out for help yet no one stands up for them.

The sin of head of a beis din that died and was not properly eulogized could refer to a general lack of respect for Torah scholars. Or perhaps it is simply the perversion of justice administered in Israel and around the world. If I could name a few, Elor Azariya will begin serving his 18-month sentence on the manslaughter conviction on Wednesday, 17th of Av for killing a terrorist who may or may not have been already fatally shot but was clearly still attempting to cause further damage. And in another instance, despite calls for the death penalty, the military prosecutor will not be seeking the death penalty for the terrorist charged with the murders of members of the Solomon family Hy”d of N’vei Tzuf. So instead of ridding the world of this monster, Israel will treat him, heal him, educate him, feed him, nurture him, and one day release him only to commit Rachmana litzlan another attack!

In the United States, Jonathon Pollard is still being treated unfairly, Shalom Rubashkin is still in jail, Hilary Clinton is still not in jail, and a special council has been appointed to investigate the current US President for crimes that we have no basis for assuming. Nearly all of the (impartial) lawyers who he has hired to help with this effort have contributed heavily to Hilary Clinton’s campaign. A travesty of justice indeed.

Going back to the Solomon family, while this was not two brothers who were murdered simultaneously, it was a father, a son, and a sister.

I was bothered by the statement of the Gemara. Don’t the orbits of these celestial bodies set up a solar eclipse on a natural occurrence? How can this be an ominous sign? Indeed Rav Yonason Eibshitz in Yaros Dvash says that the Gemara is not referring to an eclipse; rather there are times when the sun’s power is weakened and it does not produce as much. However others learn that it is in fact referring to an eclipse. The sefer Igra D’kala suggests that although there is a natural path that the heavenly bodies follow, nevertheless they were all created to serve people. And if we were not angering our King, the sun and the moon would change the course of natural law and prevent an eclipse. He asks, if an eclipse were scheduled to occur when Yehoshua held the sun in its place, would it have occurred? Definitely not! We see that we have the power to change natural law, and the fact that it isn’t changed is an ominous sign.

Perhaps on August 21 the news stories will be reporting how scientists are baffled as to why there was no eclipse. But if that is not the case we should be awe inspired and fix our ways.


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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2017, 05:07:50 AM »
I would be ashamed to publish this nonsense.

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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 11:55:07 PM »
I would be ashamed to publish this nonsense.

they're really self-hating.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 07:23:35 PM »
What the???

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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 04:06:19 PM »
Yasher koach..nice dvar torah...don't know how it is actually true..i'm sure back in the day when science was less known, solar eclipses were scary occurrences..So I take this point of view.

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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 01:52:47 PM »
The greatest irony is that some of the greatest Rabbinical figures all had knowledge of scientific concepts that would be discovered hundreds of years later. Right there they pretty well point out that there is a neurological genetic connection between homosexuals and being mentally ill.

These Rabbinical figures didn't put it in those words, but when you interpret Dvarim, you can come to the same conclusion.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2017, 04:12:24 PM »
Isn't this a bit of a strech?

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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 05:32:49 AM »
This is actually ironic. For all you can say about black people, despite being completely taken over by the leftists and their social planning, they never submitted to the homosexual agenda, despite billions in propaganda.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 09:15:03 AM »
In the Psalms God is mentioned together with the sun. In Psalm  84,11. So if the sun is taken away this could be a sign. And the wickedness of this generation is really something. But this is for shure not only a Jewish problem.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 06:25:23 PM »
Link was supposed to be in my previous comment...



Atlantic: The Eclipse is Racist, Solar System has Implicit Bias
August 20, 2017
Daniel Greenfield
 

Stop watching the eclipse. It's racist.

If you want evidence that the American leftist cult has reached a point of fanatical unreason every bit as bad as the darkest of dark ages, here's a sentence from the Atlantic's piece on the eclipse.

    On August 21, 2017, a total solar eclipse will arrive mid-morning on the coast of Oregon. It has been dubbed the Great American Eclipse, and along most of its path, there live almost no black people. Presumably, this is not explained by the implicit bias of the solar system.

Presumably.

We can't rule out the possibility entirely. It's presumably not the case. But you never know with white supremacy. It could be embedded in the very orbital trajectories of the solar system. We really need some intersectional astronomy to figure this one out.

The article is emblematic of the sort of deranged racially toxic revisionist history that fills American Studies. The formula is simple. X + Racism = topic. Take anything, link it to racism, write about it to show how racist America is.

Even an eclipse.

    Oregon, where this begins, is almost entirely white. The 10 percent or so of state residents who do not identify as white are predominantly Latino, American Indian, Alaskan, or Asian. There are very few black Oregonians...

    From Oregon, the Great American Eclipse will travel through Idaho and Wyoming. (It will catch a tiny unpopulated piece of Montana, too.) Percentage-wise, Idaho and Wyoming are even whiter than Oregon. And as in Oregon, but even more so, the few non-white residents of Idaho and Wyoming are not black—they are mostly Latino, American Indian, and Alaskan...

Err and so what?

The premise of the American left's racist witch hunt for the last two generations is that if you can show black people aren't doing somewhere or being something, then... racism.

Except Idaho, Wyoming and Montana are lightly populated. Period.

And they are more likely to have Latinos than black people for obvious geographical and commercial reasons. They're rural areas with a lot more ranching.

Are we meant to feel guilty because Montana has more American Indians than black people? Is this a reflection on the eclipse's internalized racism?

    After Wyoming, the eclipse will go through Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri... Bruce Springsteen, after reading Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States, wrote an album of songs too bleak for a studio, much less an arena... The album went platinum, and it is called Nebraska.

1. I figured that this revisionist garbage would at some point incorporate the ur-revisionist history of Stalinist America denier Howard Zinn.

2. There's a green plant in my living room...  the flag of Saudi Arabia is green.... the wearing of the green... the Emerald City of Oz... Racism!!!!

    The total eclipse will be visible from Lincoln, Nebraska, the state’s capital, which reports a black population of 3.8 percent. The city of Omaha has a greater black population, about 14 percent. It is home to many of the refugees from Africa and elsewhere that Nebraska has welcomed in recent years, many of whom now work in slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants. But Omaha is about 50 miles northeast of the path of totality.

The case for the implicit bias of the solar system is getting stronger than ever.

    From Kansas, the eclipse goes to Missouri, still mostly bypassing black people, though now much more improbably...

Hmm... we really need a civil rights investigation of this eclipse.

    Moving east, the eclipse will pass part of St. Louis, whose overall population is nearly half black. But the black residents are concentrated in the northern half of the metropolitan area, and the total eclipse crosses only the southern half.

The most obvious explanation is that the white racists conspired for the last few generations to keep black people out of the path of the eclipse. They didn't want black people to enjoy the liberating powers of the eclipse.

Either that or Alice Ristoph is a race-baiting leftist lunatic.

We report. You decide.

    ...after Tennessee, the shadow regains some speed and travels over white people only again for a while

Ugh. White people.


https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/267635/atlantic-eclipse-racist-solar-system-has-implicit-daniel-greenfield
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 06:44:01 PM »
It's racist that the eclipsed Sun will be black.


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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2017, 06:48:41 PM »
G-d knows the future. He knew in advance that this generation would be evil and support homosexuality. Maybe that's what the Talmud means. G-d knew billions of years ago that He would cause the eclipse tomorrow. He also knew that mankind would be evil which is why He scheduled the eclipse at this time. Also, rainbows are when the World is worthy of destruction and He places the rainbow the sky as a warning. If not for His covenant with Noah, He would have destroyed the World again. The Flood was also due to homosexuality. Now the homosexuals hijacked the rainbow. At least no one hijacked eclipses. By the logic of homosexuals using the rainbow, I wouldn't be surprised if the black power movement tried to use the eclipse symbol of a blacked out Sun.



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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 02:04:59 AM »
G-d knows the future. He knew in advance that this generation would be evil and support homosexuality. Maybe that's what the Talmud means. G-d knew billions of years ago that He would cause the eclipse tomorrow. He also knew that mankind would be evil which is why He scheduled the eclipse at this time. Also, rainbows are when the World is worthy of destruction and He places the rainbow the sky as a warning. If not for His covenant with Noah, He would have destroyed the World again. The Flood was also due to homosexuality. Now the homosexuals hijacked the rainbow. At least no one hijacked eclipses. By the logic of homosexuals using the rainbow, I wouldn't be surprised if the black power movement tried to use the eclipse symbol of a blacked out Sun.

Yes I agree on this solution.

This issue of human will and God's omniscience is a known theological issue.

I have wondered always about the rainbow flags at the homo-parades. But in all this I see God. He rules everything in a way that later there is no excuse. Homo-rebellion is futil.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 02:34:56 AM »
This is actually ironic. For all you can say about black people, despite being completely taken over by the leftists and their social planning, they never submitted to the homosexual agenda, despite billions in propaganda.
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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 08:03:02 AM »
You've never heard of "down low brothers".

That's the thing though.  They have to be on the down low!  I white culture literally no one cares anymore

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Re: The Talmud Lists Homosexuality As Cause of Solar Eclipse
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 12:07:39 PM »
That's the thing though.  They have to be on the down low!  I white culture literally no one cares anymore

"Conservatives" don't care. Liberals will make a parade and give you cash while kissing your feet. Black people are more sane than white people on this issue.
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