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Ari Fuld's eldest daughter to Liberman: Death to the terrorist
« on: September 18, 2018, 05:15:13 PM »
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Bereaved daughter to Liberman: Death to the terrorist
9/18/11
Ari Fuld's eldest daughter asks defense minister why terrorist is kept alive and treated in Israel. Liberman: We are trying.

Minister of Defense Avigdor Liberman on Tuesday comforted the family of Ari Fuld, who was murdered in a stabbing attack in Gush Etzion.

Tamar, Ari’s eldest daughter, asked the defense minister to impose the death penalty on the terrorist. She told Liberman that she was concerned that the terrorist was not killed at the scene of the attack and lamented that he was lightly wounded and was being treated in an Israeli hospital.

"If my father was alive, he would have acted to make it happen," she said to Liberman.

The defense minister explained to the bereaved family that "The state is not one unit, and what I and you understand, there are others who do not understand. We are making every effort."

Ari's mother asked Liberman to develop Givat Eitam in Efrat, and the defense minister made it clear that "I intend to continue to approve the construction of housing units in settlements in Judea and Samaria."

Earlier, President Reuven Rivlin paid a condolence visit to the family.

The president met Ari's family, his wife, his children, his parents and his brothers, and heard from them about the tremendous pain they face, Ari's great love for his family and his devotion to the people of Israel and the Land of Israel.

"Once, to raise the Israeli flag was a miracle, now it’s taken for granted, but every time such a despicable murder takes place, we understand that the struggle is not over. In the same breath we understand the strength, the power and the determination of the people. When it hits your home, it is painful, pain that is incomprehensible,” the president said.

Ari's father told the president that Ari, with his own hands, raised the flag, and the president replied that he was impressed by everything he heard and learned about Ari who proudly carried the flag through his deeds. Ari’s parents told the president about their immigration to Israel. "You are Zionists in the fullest sense. I was born here, it doesn’t take wisdom, but you made aliyah and did real Zionism," said the president.

"On the eve of Yom Kippur, I came to share in your unbearable sorrow and to tell you that the entire Jewish people is with you," said the president to the family. "How diverse your wonderful family is, what openness and education to love of the land. We are all together in this land despite disagreements sometimes, even between brothers in a family, and you are a shining example even when your pain is very severe on a personal level.”

The president turned to Miriam, Ari's wife, and said, "We all cried with you. Ari was a hero. A hero in his actions, in his conduct, in his awareness, in his devotion. Be strong. You did not voluntarily become a symbol of what is happening in this country and that we will never give up,” he said to the family.

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Re: Ari Fuld's eldest daughter to Liberman: Death to the terrorist
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 05:18:44 PM »
Here's a good article about this.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17736
Op-Ed: The insanity of treating terrorists
By Rabbi Benjamin Blech
October 22, 2015

Full disclosure: My pain at the ongoing news of stabbings and murders of innocents in Israel reached an unbearable level when I learned that a member of our family, Rabbi Yeshayahu Krishevsky, 60, was mowed down and brutally butchered with a meat cleaver in Jerusalem.

He was but one of many who were heartlessly massacred or critically wounded over the last several weeks. In some of these instances the terrorists were slain before they could continue their acts of carnage. In others, however, they were merely wounded. And what followed in every occurrence is part of a pattern that is simply beyond my comprehension.

Have you seen the picture of Hassan Manasra, the young Arab teenager who stabbed and critically wounded an Israeli boy who was riding his bicycle in Pisgat Zeev? Hassan, who “moderate” Palestinian President Abbas claimed was cruelly executed for no reason in an incendiary speech to his people, is resting comfortably in a bed in Hadassah Hospital. He is alive and well, provided with free food as well as the best medical care available - as are all terrorists who managed to survive their murderous killing sprees.

Yes, we are a very compassionate people. If those who come to murder us do not succeed at first, we will nurse them back to health so that they can try once again to carry out their self-declared goals. And we call that sanity!

Eli Bein, the general director of Magen David Adom, Israel's version of the Red Cross, asserted that MDA medics will treat terrorists first if they are in worse condition than their victims! So the lives of victims don’t even take precedence over their murderers. And we call that sanity!

Charles Sprung, director of the general intensive care unit at Hadassah in Ein Karem, had this to say:

“We took care of a terrorist here many years ago who was later freed in a prisoner exchange. He gave an interview in which he was asked how he was treated in the Israeli hospital and he said he greatly appreciated it, and imagined he could not have received better treatment anywhere in the Arab world.  Asked afterward if he intended to leave his terror ways behind, he said: ‘No. One thing has nothing to do with the other.’”

Of course, one thing has nothing to do with the other. Kind and civilized treatment is what the Arab world expects from us. But killing Jews is the goal to which they have committed their lives – and for which they are happily prepared to die. Yet, we continue to act with unappreciated saintliness even when it proves to be suicidal – and we call that sanity!

International law differentiates between patients, prisoners of war, and terrorists, defining the latter as “unlawful combatants” who are not protected by the Third Geneva Convention, unlike prisoners of war. Yet, even as we face an existential threat to Israel’s survival, we choose to ignore an internationally validated distinction. And we call that sanity!

Hadas Sapir, a nurse in the department of Alon Pikarsky, acting head of surgery at Hadassah, recounts how Maher Hamdi Hashalamun – the terrorist who stabbed and killed 26-year-old Dalia Lemkus as she waited for a lift home on November 10 of last year near the settlement of Alon Shevut southwest of Jerusalem – was brought to Hadassah after being shot by a security guard. He soon began complaining about the service and never thanked any of the staff, she says. One of the nurses taking care of him sat down outside his room at one point and just cried, Sapir says. “We are human beings, of course, and Israeli citizens.”

It was King Solomon, the wisest of all men, who summed it up in a pithy saying in the book of Ecclesiastes: “Do not be overly righteous.”
When asked if he believed that doctors in the Gaza Strip would act similarly when faced with an Israeli soldier brought into their hospital, Pikarsky answers immediately: “Without a doubt,” he says. “I am sure they would also honor their professional obligations.” Proving without a doubt how even the most intelligent doctor could be the most naïve and politically unaware dupe - totally ignorant of how Israelis have been treated by their enemies.

Compassion is a wonderful trait. Yet, Judaism, which may well claim to be the first to teach its value for mankind, was also wise enough to proclaim that “those who are too kind to the wicked are too cruel to the righteous." Kindness has its limits. As we are instructed, “And you shall eliminate evil from your midst.”

It was King Solomon, the wisest of all men, who summed it up in a pithy saying in the book of Ecclesiastes: “Do not be overly righteous.” It was Jewish theology which pointed out that turning the other cheek makes the victim himself responsible for the second blow.

Even Dr. Pikarsky, who feels we have no choice but to treat terrorists with the very best medical care, admits we may have gone overboard. “I actually think we sometimes overcompensate, and go above and beyond when it comes to treating terrorists. We have this desire to show ourselves, and show the world, that we are a light unto the nations.”

Please don't misunderstand me. I am not making a case for withholding medical treatment from our enemies. We need to provide this care not for their sake but for ours – to retain our humanity and to prevent us from sinking to their barbaric level. But surely common sense ought to remind us that medical triage must also include a moral component. As politically incorrect as it seems at first blush, all lives are not equal. Jewish victims take precedence over Arab murderers. Those who come to kill us forfeit claim to comparable care and concern. To overcompensate when we treat terrorists at the expense of our own people in order to prove to the world our ethical superiority is more than sinful – it is suicidal.

Indeed, it is a nice thing for us to fulfill our mission as Jews and to be a light unto the nations. But in order to do so we need to survive. For that, we dare not say "we will be righteous even if it kills us" – for it might do just that.

Rabbi Benjamin Blech, is a Professor of Talmud at Yeshiva University.

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Re: Ari Fuld's eldest daughter to Liberman: Death to the terrorist
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 05:21:30 PM »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/197533#.VZQJqflViko
'Don't Catch Them, Kill Them'
Moshe Zar, whose son was murdered in Samaria, says IDF commanders need to relearn what 'war' means.
By Benny Toker
First Publish: 7/1/2015

Following the murder of Malachi Moshe Rosenfeld, Moshe Zar, 77, a famous figure in Israel's settlement movement, passionately explained to Arutz Sheva on Tuesday that the IDF needs to start killing terrorists instead of trying to catch them.


"The answer to all of these terror attacks is that whoever carries out a terror attack has to be eliminated on the spot,” he said forcefully. “Not to be caught or interrogated – the first thing that needs to be done is to kill him. The terrorist who carries out an attack needs to know that he is going to die. These are the instructions that need to be given to IDF soldiers. There's no need for firing in the air or asking for a password. When they give that kind of order, we'll reach a solution.”

"This is not a youth movement,” he explained. “It's war. A terrorist has to be eliminated and if the commanders do not know this, let them go back to school and learn what war means."

"Whoever comes to kill you, must be killed. If you killed him before he killed, you won. If you didn't manage to kill him before he killed, do it later. Don't catch him and interrogate him and try to find out who sent him. Don't put him in jail, which is the best recreational facility in the world anyway.”

Zar explained that this holds true regardless of whether the terrorist is caught in the act of committing an attack or only chased down later.

He expressed outrage and exasperation with orders that say terrorists cannot be shot if they turn their back on soldiers. "Are we sick in the head?", he asked, and warned that if the IDF does not relearn the art of war soon, it will be defeated.

Zar, a wealthy landowner and land dealer in Karnei Shomron, was a member of the elite 101st commando unit under Ariel Sharon in 1956 and lost an eye in combat. He was also a member of the Jewish underground cell that planted an explosive in the car of the Arab mayor of Shechem in 1980.

Attacked by an Arab in 1983, Zar survived despite being hacked with an axe and shot at. His son, Gilad, was murdered by terrorists in 2001.

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Re: Ari Fuld's eldest daughter to Liberman: Death to the terrorist
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 05:23:20 PM »
Chaim read this and you'll see how correct you are about Bibi.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/213760#.V2T0U_lViko
Terror widow: They're letting PA celebrate my husband's murderer
Neta Lavi, widow of terror victim Rabbi Nehemia Lavi, speaks about her pain, disappointment.
By Benny Tucker
First Publish: 6/17/2016

Neta Lavi, the widow of terror victim Nehemia Lavi, is finding it difficult to look at pictures of her husband's murderer's parents.

Muhannad Halabi's mother and father were recently photographed while making victory gestures on Wadi Street in Jerusalem's Old City, at the site where Nehemia Lavi was murdered.

Halabi stabbed and killed Lavi, along with an IDF soldier Aharon Bennett, nine months ago.

"The situation, and the fact that they are not treating the root of the problem, is very painful for me. They aren't dealing with the root, which is incitement, and they are handing the area over to the murderers. How is the name of the murderer, who murdered two people and wounded a woman and children, going around as a national hero? And they're letting it happen here in Israel."

According to Lavi, the fact that the Palestinian Authority has named a road after the murderer says it all. "There are things that we can prevent. Letting the mother of the terrorist come to the Old City and be photographed like this is something we can prevent. We need to enforce the law and bring them to justice.

Neta Lavi continues to uphold her husband's legacy and tries to help other families. "We are also occupied with memory and pain, but we are not drawn to it. We try to raise ourself up and to push the cart forwards. To do all sorts of actions to make things better; that help us as well as others in similar situations. Many people have asked to hear about my husband, who was a rabbi at Yeshiva Ateret Cohanim and the pre-military academy in Beit Meir.

"What characterized him was his relationship with the entire Jewish People. He had friends from all shades of Judaism. Both his haredi and his secular friends came to visit us, and they truly had a deep friendship. He strove to impart all of this on the children as well. Some Friday nights he took one of our sons to a hassidic group to pray and return, and it was a normal part of our lives."

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A million hands murdered Ari Fuld
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2018, 04:48:16 PM »
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A million hands murdered Ari Fuld
More than a million hands gave the knife to this Arab. All are complicit. All are guilty.
By Jack Engelhard, 09/18/18

The cold fact is plain enough. Fuld, 45, father of four, warrior for Israel, was murdered near his home in Gush Etzion while shopping on Sunday.

The cold fact is plain enough. Fuld, 45, father of four, warrior for Israel, was murdered near his home in Gush Etzion while shopping on Sunday.
The murderer has been identified as a 17-year-old Arab terrorist, who saw a Jew and stabbed him in the back.

Fuld was stabbed in the back by more than one terrorist. More than a million hands gave the knife to this Arab. All are complicit. All are guilty.

Guilty are the politicians who signed the Oslo Accords, which placed a confederacy of low-life gangsters, the PLO, on equal footing with Israel, a nation founded through Divine promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This nation led by Moses, conquered by Joshua, were commanded, by Moses, to “never break down before the enemy.” (Deuteronomy)

But break down they did, these politicians, in 1993, when a piece of paper sold out Jewish sovereignty throughout the land in favor of a “peace process” that gave “the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination.” To the “Palestinian people” (who exist nowhere in the history books) this was a sign of weakness and a call for jihad.

Oslo stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Guilty are the politicians who rejuvenated a defeated Yasser Arafat by bringing him back from Tunis to wage one terror campaign after another.

They did not know that when he said peace he really meant war? Could they really be that gullible and stupid?

Jewish stupidity stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Guilty are the politicians and leftist Hebrew newspapers who thought giving up Gaza would be a wonderful idea.

The eviction of Israelis from Gush Katif stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Continued land swaps and “painful concessions” and lopsided prisoner exchanges convinced the enemy that the Israelis can be played.

Painful concessions stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Persistent talk of a “two-state-solution” proved to the Palestinian Arabs that the Israelis can be fooled, tricked and broken down.

A two-state solution stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Guilty are the members of the United Nations and the European Union who consistently cheer for the Arabs and jeer for the Jews…and greet every visit from PLO/Fatah Islamic terrorist Mahmoud Abbas with a standing ovation, coupled with shouts of Encore…Encore when he inflames and incites against Jews and the Jewish State.

The nations stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

So did Obama when, through abstaining, he let pass UN Security Council Resolution 2334, which denied Jewish rights to practically everywhere.

Obama stabbed Ari Fuld in the back.

Meantime, the murderer (whom Ari Fuld wounded during the unprovoked attack) is recovering and “resting comfortably” in an Israeli hospital.

Some would call it typical Jewish decency and compassion. Others might call it a persistent pattern of breaking down before the enemy.

 www.jackengelhard.com