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The Dutch have surrendered!
« on: July 20, 2007, 11:41:24 PM »
Sunday, July 15, 2007
Netherlands: A Judeo-Christian-Muslim state
The "Judeo-Christian" principles upon which Europe was built are not directly related to the Jews. They are related to the fact that the Christians see the Tanach as an integral part of their religion and moral code. I suppose Minister Vogelaar is not demanding the same of Muslims.

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According to Minister Ella Vogellaar, in an interview with Trouw, Muslim culture is so deeply entrenching itself in Dutch society that in the long run one would speak of a land that is based on a "Judeo-Christian-Muslim" tradition.

The minister for Housing and Integration hopes to end the 'negativity en the fear of Islam'. "I want to help Muslim feel at home here. Islam and Muslims must take root here, precisely because Muslims are also citizens of this land."

Vogelaar doesn't have problem if the (local) government supports to religious institutions of New Dutch, even financially. "So long as you subsidize social goals and not religious activities. Otherwise you cross a border."

Vogelaar is now speaking differently than various politicians in the past years. Started from the first Balkenende government in 2002, the policy stressed adaptation to Dutch norms and values.

Although the minister doesn't want to stop the obligation to naturalization and learning Dutch, she now speaks of a "mutual process", in which cultures influence and stimulate each other. "It is important that such a big group takes root in our society, and becomes an inseparable part of it," according to Vogelaar.

The minister compares it to the contribution of the Jewish community to Dutch culture. "Centuries ago the Jewish community came to the Netherlands and now we say: the Netherlands is a land formed by the Judeo-Christian traditions. I can imagine that we would get a similar process with Islam."

Source: Trouw (Dutch)

See also: Netherlands: Debate needed about Islam
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Re: The Dutch have surrendered!
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2007, 05:32:35 AM »
The islamisation of the Netherlands is becoming so radical that some neighbourhood churches now are forced to silence their clocks because the muslim residents are so 'insulted' by them. The onslaught of pro-muslim propaganda is so overwhelming that ordinary Dutch citizens are totally cowed by them. The government is also closing down some ' racist ' websites - but only those from a 'white-rightwing signature' while totally ignoring the hate-speech featured on the Dutch-based muslim websites. We are lost already!
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2007, 06:47:59 AM »
The islamisation of the Netherlands is becoming so radical that some neighbourhood churches now are forced to silence their clocks because the muslim residents are so 'insulted' by them. The onslaught of pro-muslim propaganda is so overwhelming that ordinary Dutch citizens are totally cowed by them. The government is also closing down some ' racist ' websites - but only those from a 'white-rightwing signature' while totally ignoring the hate-speech featured on the Dutch-based muslim websites. We are lost already!
Last year I went on a forum that had many members from the Netherlands on it. I am always amazed how people from other countries are able to write and read English so well. Anyway what I found disturbing was the willingness of  young folks to accept muslims and other races into their country  and intermingle with them so freely. I was shocked to see the level of secularism and miscegenation between races. When I told the people on the forum that if this was the accepted way of living soon their original heritage would be eliminated they became irate and banned me from the forum. This was a major eye opener for me. I always thought that the Netherlands was more on the progressive side however I never expected to see things were that far gone.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2007, 06:06:59 AM »
There are done :-[ :-[
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 09:47:41 AM »
We Serbs had the same problems in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosovo.
When we were attacked the western media had sympathy for our enemies. Many Dutch nationalist supported and joined Croat-Bosnian army units.

There were plenty of nazi-skinhead volunteer-units active from the Western countries on Yugoslav lands.

Your media made Serbs look like savages. No body took action to stop that propaganda not even today.

That’s way the Western European countries and the U.S are so unpopular in Serbia. 

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 05:47:13 PM »
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Last year I went on a forum that had many members from the Netherlands on it. I am always amazed how people from other countries are able to write and read English so well. Anyway what I found disturbing was the willingness of  young folks to accept muslims and other races into their country  and intermingle with them so freely. I was shocked to see the level of secularism and miscegenation between races. When I told the people on the forum that if this was the accepted way of living soon their original heritage would be eliminated they became irate and banned me from the forum. This was a major eye opener for me. I always thought that the Netherlands was more on the progressive side however I never expected to see things were that far gone.

The Dutch from the Netherlands were always anti-apartheid and pro anc terrorist, they loved the kaffirs, still do! They have sold themselves down the politically correct road to hell, just like the British are doing and are sowing their own seed of hate and racism, they are cowards to the truth and themselves, and their heritage......let them reap what they have sown!

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2007, 04:55:14 PM »
We Serbs had the same problems in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosovo.
When we were attacked the western media had sympathy for our enemies. Many Dutch nationalist supported and joined Croat-Bosnian army units.

There were plenty of nazi-skinhead volunteer-units active from the Western countries on Yugoslav lands.

Your media made Serbs look like savages. No body took action to stop that propaganda not even today.

That’s way the Western European countries and the U.S are so unpopular in Serbia. 

I too was posted in the balkans Dalmacija, Brithish army and i have relized quit a few years ago that we were on the wrong side, all i saw was the dead children and women, i realize this was just what we in the west are going to fight soon and i am ashamed of myself for beliving the propaganda against you"s and a very lot of my comrades do too,sorry.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2007, 08:19:11 PM »
We Serbs had the same problems in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosovo.
When we were attacked the western media had sympathy for our enemies. Many Dutch nationalist supported and joined Croat-Bosnian army units.

There were plenty of nazi-skinhead volunteer-units active from the Western countries on Yugoslav lands.

Your media made Serbs look like savages. No body took action to stop that propaganda not even today.

That’s way the Western European countries and the U.S are so unpopular in Serbia. 

I too was posted in the balkans Dalmacija, Brithish army and i have relized quit a few years ago that we were on the wrong side, all i saw was the dead children and women, i realize this was just what we in the west are going to fight soon and i am ashamed of myself for beliving the propaganda against you"s and a very lot of my comrades do too,sorry.

I hope that people in your country will relize that muslims are our common enemy. In the next 20 years the muslims will be a majority in 35 english cities. English people need to think about that.....
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Re: The Dutch have surrendered!
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 04:14:06 AM »
We Serbs had the same problems in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosovo.
When we were attacked the western media had sympathy for our enemies. Many Dutch nationalist supported and joined Croat-Bosnian army units.

There were plenty of nazi-skinhead volunteer-units active from the Western countries on Yugoslav lands.

Your media made Serbs look like savages. No body took action to stop that propaganda not even today.

That’s way the Western European countries and the U.S are so unpopular in Serbia. 

I too was posted in the balkans Dalmacija, Brithish army and i have relized quit a few years ago that we were on the wrong side, all i saw was the dead children and women, i realize this was just what we in the west are going to fight soon and i am ashamed of myself for beliving the propaganda against you"s and a very lot of my comrades do too,sorry.

Say sorry to those people who lost their homes, children or parents. They need help because they are now in a situation without basic conditions.
You can not expect that we Serbs will forgot or forgive these savage brutalities against our people only because of their ethnicity they were banished from their homelands or in some worse cases killed.

During the Turkish attacks
the European nation needed fighters like Serbs to stop the Ottoman expansion.
The Serbs fought in many wars to keep Europe save from invaders from outside.
We Serbs from Krajina (military district) were directly guarding the Austo-Hungarian kingdom and Catholic Europe from the Turks. The Serbs,
but especially the Krajina Serbs were the stop for Ottoman expansion. Because Krajina was a mountainous area and because those Krajina Serbs were warriors who scared every conqueror the Turks did not like to go through Krajina. A King from Austro-Hungaria (at that time) gave political rights to the Serbs in Krajina (krajina was part of their kingdom) but we got our autonomy. They needed warriors like us that’s the reason why the respected us and gave us rights.

During the collapse of royal Yugoslavia  in the WW2.
The krajina Serbs came under Nazi Croatian occupation. In death camps the half population of the Krajina Serbs was eliminated.

At the end of WW2 the Cetniks (a Serb antifascist and anticommunist movement)  was defeated because the allies ( so called Serb allies) gave permission for a communist victory in stead of a democratic and royal Cetnik victory. With other words the Serb option was not victorious.

The Krajina Serbs came again into Croatian borders. Because Krajina became a part of the new by communists created socialist republic of Croatia which was part of the Yugoslav federation. 

During the collapse of communist Yugoslavia in the begin of the 90ties.
The Croats declared an independent state of Croatia with out guaranteeing civil rights to the Serb minority in Croatia (Krajina). They put us out of their new constitution they did not mention not even one word about the Serb presentation in Croatia. With other words we did not exist in their eyes.

Our reaction was.
The Serbs and the Croats are both constitutional nations of the Yugoslav federation.
If the Croats have the right to create their own state than you can not forbid us Serbs from Croatia (also a constitutional nation based on the Yugoslav constitution) to do the same. That’s way we separated us from Croatia because we had no other option. Those who wanted a independent Croatian state did not want to recognize the Serb rights.

You people from West Europe have forgotten that those same Krajina Serbs were the biggest barricade to Ottoman expansion. We were Guards of Europe once. You forgot that the Austo-Hungarian kingdom recognized us and gave us rights in that time when Croatia didn’t exist. Who are the Croats a nation who committed genocide against the krajina Serbs who are they to take our right.

The European nations and the US recognized a (Croatian) state who committed elimination of people two times in history in WW2 and during the break of Yugoslavia.

How do you think how we feel now?
You think that we must forgot this all? We won’t be naïve any more to believe in anybody expect in our traditional brothers.
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Re: The Dutch have surrendered!
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 11:59:43 AM »
I hope that people in your country will relize that muslims are our common enemy. In the next 20 years the muslims will be a majority in 35 english cities. English people need to think about that.....[/quote]

Many millions of Brits realize that the common enemy is Islam, but they are way too afraid to speak out, they are afraid of what everyone else will say.  Britain today is a police state run by fascist pigs who have a grip on the British population like you cannot believe. Political correctness and the left wing media have a stranglehold on everyone, people are virtually afraid to think for themselves. Both the Labour party and the conservative party are worth nothing more than a sack of pig manure, both parties are run by the globalists, both parties will do as they are told....or else! The working class Brit are in their open air dungeon, thinking they are free and that their vote means something, when in fact, it is not worth the paper their cross is marked on. Just like in America, the dice have been rolled by the big boys, the next leader is in the bag and the sheeple are one step closer to their date with slavery and fascism on a scale that would make Hitler look like a nun. The only way for the British to get rid of their problem is for the entire white population of Britain to rise up as one, put all the politicians and the royal family of vermin against a wall and do what is right......and that goes for those arseholes in the police force and army who are doing the governments dirty work against the people. The problem is that people are divided, they are so brainwashed by sport, movies, drugs and all the propaganda dished out the their spineless government that there is little or no hope for them in the coming time of hell on Earth. Most of them are absolutely oblivious of what is happening right under their noses. Look at how the government in Britain has allowed a statue of that vile kaffir terrorist mandela to be erected in London. The Labour and Conservative arseholes think mandela  s h i t's  gold, just goes to show who they befriend and trust, they are no better than that black piece of murdering slime...... god help the white British people in the near future.

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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 01:22:54 PM »


G-d help the white British people in the near future.

G-d help Great Britan, muslim pigs out of Europe >:(





Muslim terrorist from Iran killed Serbs, Serbian Army made action, we can see results.... ;) all terrorist found dead, call it genocide if you like, but an eye for an eye.. Europe is not the place for muslim pigs and Al Qaeda



British remember this, why let this happen to us again?









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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2007, 01:11:22 AM »
We Serbs had the same problems in Croatia, Bosnia and in Kosovo.
When we were attacked the western media had sympathy for our enemies. Many Dutch nationalist supported and joined Croat-Bosnian army units.

There were plenty of nazi-skinhead volunteer-units active from the Western countries on Yugoslav lands.

Your media made Serbs look like savages. No body took action to stop that propaganda not even today.

That’s way the Western European countries and the U.S are so unpopular in Serbia. 


Modern day mass media always attacks the wrong people, that's what its there for, it is a propaganda tool for globalists, and the greatest of their tools at that, nothing else has such a far reaching and powerful influence upon western civilization.

The mass media demonizes white people all over the world in their own nations every day, whilst constantly blasting us with pro globalist propaganda, all western Europeans and white Americans are belittled and degraded the just as your people were by western mass media, so don't think you are alone, western mass media is the enemy of anyone who is not pro globalization and anyone who gets in the way of those who are.