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Offline Gruzinit

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How secularism has destroyed peace in Israel....
« on: September 30, 2007, 01:27:46 AM »
Prof Eidelberg's transcripts are nothing compared to his speeches, which rouse the jewish spirit from it's vain slumber. He's one of the few jews I have immense respect for....http://foundation1.org/wp-en/2007/09/25/why-peace-eludes-israel/


WHY PEACE ELUDES ISRAEL by Prof. Paul Eidelberg


Israel is retreating toward its 1949 Auschwitz lines. Many attribute this retreat to Israel’s ardent desire for peace. This desire for peace, however, has resulted in ceaseless Arab terrorism and Israel’s emasculation.

This desire for peace, uttered ad nauseum by Israeli policy-makers and opinion-makers, has stupefied Israelis, emboldened Israel’s enemies; and made Muslims contemptuous of Jews.

Did England’s or France’s desire for peace transform Germans into doves? Germany was the home of humanism, of philosophy and science. Are Muslims more humanistic than the nation that produced Kant, Schiller, Heine, and Einstein?

But let me address Israel’s current political elites: Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak—and of course Israel’s so-called elder statesman President Shimon Peres. These Alice-in-Wonderland politicians would have us believe that withdrawing from Judea and Samaria will pacify Israel’s distraught Arab neighbors—like giving them a daily dose of Prozac.

I ask these peace addicts: “Why should you expect peace from Muslims who despise Israel as an outpost of Western civilization that threatens the autocratic power structure of Islamic states?”

“Why should you expect peace from Arabs who teach their children to hate Jews and exalt suicide bombers? Is it not foolish of you and shameless to negotiate with Palestinians when 85% of these Arabs are committed to Israel’s destruction? What do you want to negotiate—the mode and date of your destruction?”

I ask you: “Why should you expect peace from Fatah leaders like Mahmoud Abbas who deceive and despoil their own people? What peace will you obtain from a Muslim whose attitude toward infidels is based on the primacy of fraud and force typical of 22 Arab-Islamic tyrannies?”

Here let me pause to address “right-minded” Israeli politicians and intellectuals who, though skeptical about the land-for-peace policy, also intone the mantra of “peace.” Suppose you declared: “I do not desire peace with Arab despots who luxuriate in splendor while their people are steeped in abject poverty.” Are you manly enough to proclaim such an attitude? Then let me suggest some other declarations one might make in a world threatened by Islamic Imperialism.

Suppose you said, “I do not want peace with tyrannies, regimes ruled by evil men. I do not want to dignify them and thereby abet their wicked designs.”

“I do not seek peace with Arab or Muslim despots lest I confuse, disarm, and foster cynicism among my own countrymen. Better to arouse fear in these despots, instead of allowing them to lull unwary Jews with professions of peace.”

“Do you think such statements will make these despots more bellicose? What have your “politically correct” professions of peace accomplished? Has Israel’s peace treaty with Egypt made that dictatorship less militant? Then why is Egypt, a regime threatened by no one, engaged in a vast military build-up? Why do Egypt’s state-controlled media continue to spew anti-Israel and anti-Jewish venom? Why did Egypt facilitate the shipment of arms to Arab terrorists in Gaza? And please explain why Egypt’s tourist maps depict Israel as ‘Palestine.’”

To Condoleezza Rice I ask: “Leaving aside the killers and killing fields in Algeria, Bangladesh, Bosnia, Chechnya, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan, and Syria, why should Palestinian Arabs, who supported Saddam Hussein’s rape of Kuwait, another Muslim country, live in abiding peace with Israel?”

I ask Secretary Rice: “Why do you cozy up to Palestinians who cheered the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York and the murder of 3,000 innocent people?

To Condi as well as peace-intoxicated politicians of Israel, I ask: “In as much as Sunni and Shiite Muslim sects since the time of Muhammad have not been able to live in peace with each other, why should you expect them to live in abiding peace with Jews?”

Now let me address critics of Israel’s land-for-peace policy. Many blame that policy on American pressure, or, conversely, on the timidity of Israeli prime ministers. True but superficial. Let me offer two different ways of understanding why peace eludes Israel.

Exodus 15:3 states that “God is the Master of war.” Hence must also be the Master of peace. Since war and peace are in the hands of God, whether Israel will have peace or war depends on how its ruling elites relate to God. So long as they dismiss God from the domain of statecraft, or so long as Israel’s government scorns the Torah, the people of Israel will not have peace.

But the God of Israel is not a man that goes to sleep, indifferent to Israel’s destiny. This infinitely wise God has given the people of Israel the best of enemies—Arabs who will not and cannot be pacified by giving them parts of the land God promised the Jewish people!

God has therefore given His people an enemy that unwittingly compels Jews to face the ultimate reason why peace eludes the so-called Jewish State of Israel!

Notice that Israel’s political elites are incapable of competing with Muslims at the negotiating table. Since Kissinger’s “shuttle diplomacy” in the aftermath of the Yom Kippur War, one Israeli government after another has surrendered or compromised Israel’s retention of the land the IDF regained in the Six-Day War of 1967. This has been the case whether the government was led by Labor, the Likud, or Kadima.

How is one to explain this territorial retreat given Israel’s superior military power, to say nothing of Israel’s legal entitlement to the land it repossessed in the Six-Day War?

I have indicated that whatever the merit of conventional explanations, they do not go to the root of the problem. Israel may need American military aid, but Israel gets this aid because it serves America’s national interest. Yet this fact, which involves Israel’s geostrategic importance, does not embolden Israel’s ruling elites. Why not? Don’t they understand that peace depends on the wise and courageous use of power? Or has their estrangement from God stupefied and cowed them?

I contend, first, that peace eludes Israel because it is a secular state which, by posing as a democracy, induces its ruling elites to make foolish concessions to preserve their democratic reputation in the United States. Second, I contend that the ceaseless terrorist attacks and wars waged by Israel’s enemies serve the world-historical function of making this secular state with its pseudo-democratic institutions non-viable!

Israel has become a pathological state devoid of an authentic and vibrant national identity. Israel has suffered more than 10,000 casualties since the Oslo or Israel-PLO Agreement of September 1993. That agreement was secretly negotiated by Shimon Peres’ lackeys contrary to the Labor Party’s campaign program in the June 1992 election. The Oslo negotiations also violated the 1985 Anti-Terrorist Ordinance. And Oslo was foisted on the public without serious debate.

Fast forward: Labor’s policy of “unilateral disengagement” from Gaza was rejected by an overwhelming majority of the public in the 2003 election. Nevertheless, Likud leader Ariel Sharon, contrary to his long-standing opposition to the Gaza retreat, adopted Labor’s policy without any public debate. By so doing he nullified the 2003 election and became, in effect, Labor’s surrogate prime minister! This is not only treachery: it’s madness, the kind Isaiah attributes to Jews who abandon God.

As predicted, withdrawing from Gaza has not given Israel peace. Gaza has become Hamastan, from which thousands of missiles have been raining on Sderot. Thanks to Egypt’s benign neglect or complicity, arms are being smuggled into Judea and Samaria. Every city in Israel may soon become another Sderot. Yes, this is suicidal madness.

Prime Minister Olmert, who once idiotically declared that Israel was tired of being courageous, is anxious to extend the inane or insane policy of disengagement to Judea and Samaria—despite his having a public approval rating of less than 10%. What a charming democracy or democratically elected despotism! Yes, and how self-destructive.

So, it’s becoming increasingly obvious that this secular and pseudo-democratic State of Israel is incapable of securing the safety of its citizens. “Regime change” is absolutely essential. But regime change must pave the way for a Torah-oriented system of governance—an absolutely a necessary precondition of achieving peace. Is anyone with noble ambitions listening?
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Re: How secularism has destroyed peace in Israel....
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2007, 01:47:55 AM »
Every JTF member knows Israel is the Holy Land. Self-hating Jews can try to desecrate its richly divine composition, but all those who are in the know will never let the self-hating Jews effect our beliefs.

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Re: How secularism has destroyed peace in Israel....
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2007, 04:05:24 AM »
This very good article; we need more righteus Jews in Israel; anybody who will try to sell or give up parts of Eretz Yisrael; will be cursed by G-d's wratch.
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm