And what does killing people make you? A hero?.....turning the holy land into a bloody battle field?
You yourself suggested better ways to rid Israel of the Arabs, occupy more land, offer money etc
I was trying to be positive here but haven't expressed myself very well. Yes, Israel cannot own land by moving into it but only occupy it until it is made officially theirs. I did not say Israel were occupiers but that is what they will have to do if they are to gain land that they deserve, unless the rest of the world agrees to it and that is very unlikely. Disagree?
There are many meanings to the word occupy. Here are two:
*invade: march aggressively into another's territory by military force for the purposes of conquest and occupation.- This Israel will have to do to combat the Arab Problem, you're telling me I'm a muslim because i said this?
*inhabit: be present in; be inside of , this is meaning of context that can be used for the word occupy.
I did not use the word Occupier, that would mean I currently believe Israel are occupying land that doesn't belong to them, and this is not the case. Israel is an official state. I'm not stupid. Don't twist my words.
No actually more the half of the Quran consists of Jewish stories......referring back to all the messengers such as Abraham and Moses and the prophets. It also contains parables such as that of the sleepers of the cave etc
If you were horrified by all of this, then you didn't understand it.
You will almost certainly disagree with me here however you were wrong KellyMaureen in saying that I said the Quran is: " I stand by my comprehension of the koran, and do not accept anyone telling me its a peaceful book of fables.."
I never said that, not at all. You stated in your post that after reading the entire Quran, you were absolutely horrified by it all. My point exactly followed your post by saying...you could not have found it all horrifying because a lot of it is about the prophets talked about in the Torah, even if it is Plagairised, I for one cannot find all these things horrified especially if they have been copied from the Torah. There are stories which have been changed and manipulated, yes. I was in speaking in reference to the good things mentioned about the prophets. Many commandments that have been sent to the Jewish people, the muslims have also used and they are mentioned in the Quran. I'm sure you're horrified by those also.
Though when I was writing those posts in that particular thread KellyMaureen, I cannot deny that I did feel the want to say those things as an outburst. So, I did.
Chaimfan Scotch, repeatedly said the Hitler Glorifying phrase "Heil Sieg" or something similar, that is in support for the Nazis. This phrase is Illegal in Germany and many other countries. That is why I called him a Nazi. Am I saying "Allahuakbar"? No.
Marzutra, this was not some childish attempt to blow things out of proportion. I want to discuss this on the public part of the forum. Instead of sending messages to Yacov, telling him that I practice Taqiyyah and he better be weary of me, because he is important on JTF and i might be trying to make an impression on Chaim. In other words, doing sly things. That is childish.
I don't have anything against you MarZutra, Kelly or anyone else. This was not intended to insult. Disagreements will arise everywhere.....they don't have to cause disunity.
Kelly, the end of the discussion? You haven't even heard a word I've said about this. This isn't a discussion, if you have finished because you've discussed it with your own opinions only.
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