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Haredi Jews to be drafted into the army - your opinion
Mishmaat:
--- Quote from: Betar on July 03, 2024, 02:49:54 AM ---They are Orthodox Jews who study the Torah full time and they are funded by the state in order to do so.
That’s how they differentiate from the rest of the country as unlike the rest of Israelis when they became adults they don’t do their military service.
I would say they are loyal to G-d and their community and most of them probably vote for the Shas party (Orthodox party)
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For the sake of Ahavat Yisrael I will refrain from saying what I really think.
They should serve.
Betar:
--- Quote from: Mishmaat on July 16, 2024, 11:37:04 PM ---For the sake of Ahavat Yisrael I will refrain from saying what I really think.
They should serve.
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Interesting how the opinions on this topic are different even here on the forum. Like your saying, for the sake of Israel they should what makes sense if you ask me and most people in Israel believe so I would say.
On the other hand many still believe they should focus studying the Torah full time though.
ChabadKahanist:
--- Quote from: Betar on July 03, 2024, 02:49:54 AM ---They are Orthodox Jews who study the Torah full time and they are funded by the state in order to do so.
That’s how they differentiate from the rest of the country as unlike the rest of Israelis when they became adults they don’t do their military service.
I would say they are loyal to G-d and their community and most of them probably vote for the Shas party (Orthodox party)
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Only the Sephardi/Mizrachi ones vote for Shas Ashkenazi Chareidim vote for United Torah Judaism which is a union of 2 parties the Chassidic Agudat Yisrael & the Litviish Degel HaTorah
ChabadKahanist:
Rabbi Meieir Kahaane,ZT"L,HY"D said that he was in favor of torah scholars that are learning day & night & they should get an exemption but those that are also working should be drafted I will go one further many of these so called yeshiva bachurim & kolllel avreicim are sitting in coffe shops & sipping lattes or head shops smoking nargilot (hookas) these bums who are taking advantage of the systemshould be rounded up by MPs & drafted & also I feel all yeshivot & & kolllelim should have time clocks & the students required to punch in & out every time they enter or exits the building those not keeping to all the hours of learning without a good reason are drafted. My grandsons are religious & serve so can those who are scamming the system & not really learning full time!!
Betar:
--- Quote from: ChabadKahanist on July 17, 2024, 10:54:14 AM ---Rabbi Meieir Kahaane,ZT"L,HY"D said that he was in favor of torah scholars that are learning day & night & they should get an exemption but those that are also working should be drafted I will go one further many of these so called yeshiva bachurim & kolllel avreicim are sitting in coffe shops & sipping lattes or head shops smoking nargilot (hookas) these bums who are taking advantage of the systemshould be rounded up by MPs & drafted & also I feel all yeshivot & & kolllelim should have time clocks & the students required to punch in & out every time they enter or exits the building those not keeping to all the hours of learning without a good reason are drafted. My grandsons are religious & serve so can those who are scamming the system & not really learning full time!!
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Interesting, thanks for sharing! A lot of Israelis/Zionists I talk to in and outside of Israel are questioning and are being upset about the fact they don’t serve in the army.
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