Haredi Jews to be drafted into the army - your opinion

[Betar]

I would like to know where JTF members are standing when it comes to this complicated topic. Should Haredi Jews do military service, especially with the current situation and a possible war with Hezbollah?

[angryChineseKahanist]

I also have questions.  I know very little about Israel.  I know nothing about the said type of Jews.

1. Who are they?
2. Why do they differentiate themselves from the rest of the Jews?
3. Who are they loyal to?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

Rabbi Kahane taught that the Torah ideal is the scholar-warrior.

[Betar]

I also have questions.  I know very little about Israel.  I know nothing about the said type of Jews.

1. Who are they?
2. Why do they differentiate themselves from the rest of the Jews?
3. Who are they loyal to?

They are Orthodox Jews who study the Torah full time and they are funded by the state in order to do so.

That’s how they differentiate from the rest of the country as unlike the rest of Israelis when they became adults they don’t do their military service.

I would say they are loyal to G-d and their community and most of them probably vote for the Shas party (Orthodox party)

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                         

   Hrvatski, HaRav Meir Kahane ZT’L HY’D
   was right!!!               
                                                                  

                             

[Mishmaat]

They are Orthodox Jews who study the Torah full time and they are funded by the state in order to do so.

That’s how they differentiate from the rest of the country as unlike the rest of Israelis when they became adults they don’t do their military service.

I would say they are loyal to G-d and their community and most of them probably vote for the Shas party (Orthodox party)

For the sake of Ahavat Yisrael I will refrain from saying what I really think.

They should serve.

[Betar]

For the sake of Ahavat Yisrael I will refrain from saying what I really think.

They should serve.

Interesting how the opinions on this topic are different even here on the forum. Like your saying, for the sake of Israel they should what makes sense if you ask me and most people in Israel believe so I would say.

On the other hand many still believe they should focus studying the Torah full time though.

[ChabadKahanist]

They are Orthodox Jews who study the Torah full time and they are funded by the state in order to do so.

That’s how they differentiate from the rest of the country as unlike the rest of Israelis when they became adults they don’t do their military service.

I would say they are loyal to G-d and their community and most of them probably vote for the Shas party (Orthodox party)

Only the Sephardi/Mizrachi ones vote for Shas Ashkenazi Chareidim vote for United Torah Judaism which is a union of 2 parties the Chassidic Agudat Yisrael & the Litviish Degel HaTorah

[ChabadKahanist]

Rabbi Meieir Kahaane,ZT"L,HY"D said that he was in favor of torah scholars that are learning day & night & they should get an exemption but those that are also working should be drafted I will go one further many of these so called yeshiva bachurim & kolllel avreicim are sitting in coffe shops & sipping lattes or head shops smoking nargilot (hookas) these bums who are taking advantage of the systemshould be rounded up by MPs & drafted & also I feel all yeshivot & & kolllelim should have time clocks & the students required to punch in & out every time they enter or exits the building those not keeping to all the hours of learning without a good reason are drafted. My grandsons are religious & serve so can those who are scamming the system & not really learning full time!!

[Betar]

Rabbi Meieir Kahaane,ZT"L,HY"D said that he was in favor of torah scholars that are learning day & night & they should get an exemption but those that are also working should be drafted I will go one further many of these so called yeshiva bachurim & kolllel avreicim are sitting in coffe shops & sipping lattes or head shops smoking nargilot (hookas) these bums who are taking advantage of the systemshould be rounded up by MPs & drafted & also I feel all yeshivot & & kolllelim should have time clocks & the students required to punch in & out every time they enter or exits the building those not keeping to all the hours of learning without a good reason are drafted. My grandsons are religious & serve so can those who are scamming the system & not really learning full time!!

Interesting, thanks for sharing! A lot of Israelis/Zionists I talk to in and outside of Israel are questioning and are being upset about the fact they don’t serve in the army.

[ChabadKahanist]

Interesting, thanks for sharing! A lot of Israelis/Zionists I talk to in and outside of Israel are questioning and are being upset about the fact they don’t serve in the army.

Agan those of us who are actually observant are not against genuine torah scholars sitting & learning & being exempt from service we are against the bums who take advantage of the system & getting exemptions when they are not actually learning day & night & actually either working or bumming around in coffee shops & head shops!!