Is this the orthodox view of hell?

[ItalianZionist]

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1594422/jewish/Do-Jews-Believe-in-Hell.htm#:~:text=Far%20from%20hurting%20your%20socks,Jewish%20Death%20and%20Mourning%20section.&text=Aron%20Moss%20is%20rabbi%20of,t%20So%20Black%20&%20White%22.


If so creatures like shitler get " cleansed"?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

In Orthodox Judaism, one who cruelly imposes fear upon large numbers of people has a continuing punishment described in Isaiah 66:24:

"And they shall go out and see the corpses of the people who rebelled against Me, for their worm shall not die, and their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorring for all flesh."

[Dr. Dan]

Everyone’s soul born in this world is a “piece of God”. (Not literally). So in a human body here on earth it gets dirty and once dead, needs to be cleansed. Some stains come off and others don’t.

[Zelhar]

I don't think believe in hell or the nature of hell is inherently part of Judaism.

[ItalianZionist]

Then what happens to Hitler and bin laden? They get cleansed?

[Zelhar]

In Judaism it is believed there is reward and punishment in the afterlife but how it is dealt is not known.

Then what happens to Hitler and bin laden? They get cleansed?

[Hrvatski Noahid]

In Judaism it is believed there is reward and punishment in the afterlife but how it is dealt is not known.

We do know there are five categories of unrepentant people who have a continuing punishment.

One who cruelly imposes fear upon large numbers of people is one who persecutes the community oppressively until they are very afraid of him.

[Dr. Dan]

I don't think believe in hell or the nature of hell is inherently part of Judaism.

It is. Among the non haredi groups and reform and conserved they paint a pretty picture of the after life. However it is well documented that it exists along with reincarnation. The religious leaders who deny it or paint a pretty picture of iit are misleading us

[Hrvatski Noahid]

It is. Among the non haredi groups and reform and conserved they paint a pretty picture of the after life. However it is well documented that it exists along with reincarnation. The religious leaders who deny it or paint a pretty picture of iit are misleading us

My rabbis translate gehinom as purgatory. Regardless of the name, it is not a pretty place.

[ItalianZionist]

It's amazing to me that even among orthodox Jews thrre is no universally accepted agreement on this important topic. Or is there? But it has not been posted here? When I bring this up to my orthodox friends, they tend to avoid the topic.

[Hrvatski Noahid]

It's amazing to me that even among orthodox Jews thrre is no universally accepted agreement on this important topic. Or is there? But it has not been posted here? When I bring this up to my orthodox friends, they tend to avoid the topic.

Zelhar is a secular Jew. My source is Seven Gates of Righteous Knowledge by Rabbi Weiner and Dr. Schulman.

[edu]

• The soul is not a piece of G-d!
• Judaism believes in reward and punishment.
• Gan Eden is part of the reward and Gehenom is part of the punishment.

[ItalianZionist]

• The soul is not a piece of G-d!
• Judaism believes in reward and punishment.
• Gan Eden is part of the reward and Gehenom is part of the punishment.

Yes but what is the punishment? Is it permanent? Is it temporary? Is it a cleansing then the soul has a chance to go to heaven? Does this apply to creatures like bin laden ? Why is there no official consensus in the orthodox community?

[Dovid_2]

Yes but what is the punishment? Is it permanent? Is it temporary? Is it a cleansing then the soul has a chance to go to heaven? Does this apply to creatures like bin laden ? Why is there no official consensus in the orthodox community?

Hell in Judaism is not like a painting of the seventh level described in Dante's Inferno.

In Judaism, if a person lives to an old age and is able to actualize their intellect and achieve perfect knowledge of G-D, their intellect continues to exist after death apart from the body.

If a person is unable to achieve perfect knowledge of G-D, then there is a debate...  Most Jews believe in transference of the soul (in other words, the soul has to come back in a different body to perfect itself).  But this idea is relatively new in Judaism, and you'd be just as well off in discussing it with a secular professor of theology because as far as I know, it was only seriously studied by moslem, Christian and Jewish philosophers in early medieval times (I am not referring to resurrection described in the Tanach).  Now I'm not sure what the other side says the process of correction for the soul is, but I can only tell you that many Jewish scholars of the past oppose the idea of transference of the soul.

Next we have the person "condemned" to hell...  A person condemned to hell is completely destroyed and they cease to exist.

I am aware of the hassidic teaching of hell being a place of "cleansing" ("kaf hakella" in kaballa) -- I don't accept this view, and there is no such place of hell as described.  I base my view on the teachings of the students of Rabbenu Meshullam's Yeshiva in Southern France from the 14th century.

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                          

   I believe that historically, there were surely
   at least a few Machloket among Chazal regarding
   this topic and discussions  among other Jewish
   people that “went to hell and back” trying to figure
   it out. It is difficult to believe how the anti Semitic
   megalomaniacal wicked drek could possibly ever
   be forgiven and or “cleansed” And despite some
   having had some near death experiences and
   describing situation le and the similarities between
   the various individual experiences, Gehinnom is
   surely a ‘place’ well worth avoiding!