Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners

[Wayne Jude]

kinda like how on 9/11 the buildings just went right strait down.All 3.Kinda like a demolition.LOLWhat are the chances of that?.I wonder!

[Ehud]

kinda like how on 9/11 the buildings just went right strait down.All 3.Kinda like a demolition.LOLWhat are the chances of that?.I wonder!

Pretty good considering that's the logical way for a building with a weakened structure to fall down.

[Wayne Jude]

Please bro you don't really believe that!

[Jyla]

The german scientists and engineers who did such ground breaking work on conventional submarines in WW2 were anti-semites, too. Yet all nations with conventional submarines today (including Israel) utilise the advances they created.

Yes German scientists and engineers are great and have contributed much to society but I'm just warning people here about some of the dangers in believing in these scientific claims by people like Dr. Watson.  I've never posted here in the general section most of my posts are related to Serbia and Israel discussion, but I wanted to reply to this thread because I've read a bit about eugenics and I don't like it inpartucular because it was popular movement in Nazi Germany. People should be more aware of this and know that its a slowly growing revival in the scientific community.

[MarZutra]

I do not buy it. No race has a better brain than another. Blacks choose to live like cats and dogs. There is no excuse.

As a person who denies this "enlightened" egalitarianism I do not beleive that all cultures, races/people, faiths or political ideologies are good or equal.  I feel nothing is equal.  There are many reasons why Africa is a million year old despotic deprave degenerative toilet and the entire Judeo-Chritian West is the way it is.... 

I am most assuradly open to the idea that this fellow, and others, have placed forward with the same scientific criteria grounded in their hypothesis....  Logical to me brother...  sorry to disagree... 

[MassuhDGoodName]

The Shadow:  "...Jews certainly know how to dig their own grave better than any other group.  I mean, can you imagine giving Jewish land away to Arabs who have been killing Jews for thousands of years..."

In fact, it is only recently, with the WHITE government of the U.S.A. subverting the Israeli government, propping up puppet traitors in place of nationalist patriots, that we find phony leaders blackmailed by the Council On Foreign Relations to give away OUR sacred lands to murderers.

As for the "vicious blacks"...do a little reading for a change (you've obviously read little other than StørmFrønt crap) and you'll find that the WHITE Viking Norsemen terrified all of Europe not too long ago...not only did they rape and pillage WHITE Christian civilization, but they sodomized all WHITE CHRISTIAN MEN whom they had conquered...and not for any good reason either...just for fun.  Had they any "reason" for their viciousness, they would have carried their loot back to Norseland and built it into Europe's greatest and most advanced civilization.  But such is not the case.  What we see today in the former Norseland are several countries renowned throughout the world as capitols of child pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, bestiality, socialism, and pacifism.

Perhaps a little more education might enlighten "The Shadow" & "Russe" as to the internecine 100 Years War fought by the WHITE Christian Europeans against each other, not to mention the WHITE CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS known as The Spanish Inquisition.

And before you repeat the big lie of "it was the Jew financiers who created all the European wars", let me assure you that if Jews were as "manipulative" and "destructive" as you claim us to be, we would have never allowed any White European Christians to survive any of your wars.

Every European Court did have a "Court Jew", but only to assist the Kings and Queens of Europe with the financial means to wage THEIR White European Christian Wars against other White European Christian nations.  White Christian Europe made it illegal for Jews to participate in any field of endeavor other than finance and banking.  Jews were forbidden membership in guilds...so when you blame the Jew for finance, you're actually holding your own heritage responsible.

You claim the Jews are "the most destructive of all races?"...We certainly can be as destructive as any other peoples because, after all, for the last 2,000 years we've had some of the best White Christian European teachers.

 

[MarZutra]

My father told me this as a child. It is not a new fact it has been known a long time. My father also told me that Negroes are mutated from apes and that the other races the Semites, Indo-Europeans and Asians are created by G-d.

LOL...thanks for making me laugh...  that was funny.  There was a poster on here who posted the link to a book called "The Negro A Beast".....using the Bible to justy how they are as your father suggests.  I have my doubts personally but anything today seems to be possible....

[MarZutra]

The Shadow:  "...Jews certainly know how to dig their own grave better than any other group.  I mean, can you imagine giving Jewish land away to Arabs who have been killing Jews for thousands of years..."

In fact, it is only recently, with the WHITE government of the U.S.A. subverting the Israeli government, propping up puppet traitors in place of nationalist patriots, that we find phony leaders blackmailed by the Council On Foreign Relations to give away OUR sacred lands to murderers.

As for the "vicious blacks"...do a little reading for a change (you've obviously read little other than StørmFrønt crap) and you'll find that the WHITE Viking Norsemen terrified all of Europe not too long ago...not only did they rape and pillage WHITE Christian civilization, but they sodomized all WHITE CHRISTIAN MEN whom they had conquered...and not for any good reason either...just for fun.  Had they any "reason" for their viciousness, they would have carried their loot back to Norseland and built it into Europe's greatest and most advanced civilization.  But such is not the case.  What we see today in the former Norseland are several countries renowned throughout the world as capitols of child pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, bestiality, socialism, and pacifism.

Perhaps a little more education might enlighten "The Shadow" & "Russe" as to the internecine 100 Years War fought by the WHITE Christian Europeans against each other, not to mention the WHITE CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS known as The Spanish Inquisition.

And before you repeat the big lie of "it was the Jew financiers who created all the European wars", let me assure you that if Jews were as "manipulative" and "destructive" as you claim us to be, we would have never allowed any White European Christians to survive any of your wars.

Every European Court did have a "Court Jew", but only to assist the Kings and Queens of Europe with the financial means to wage THEIR White European Christian Wars against other White European Christian nations.  White Christian Europe made it illegal for Jews to participate in any field of endeavor other than finance and banking.  Jews were forbidden membership in guilds...so when you blame the Jew for finance, you're actually holding your own heritage responsible.

You claim the Jews are "the most destructive of all races?"...We certainly can be as destructive as any other peoples because, after all, for the last 2,000 years we've had some of the best White Christian European teachers.

Very good post MassuhD.....  You know a very good Christian Author; Paul Johnson, displays this position very educationally in his book "A History of the Jews"

[Kananga]

Scientist James D. Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA and a Nobel Prize winner, says anti-Semitism is justified, in a recent magazine interview.

The ADL called Dr. Watson's remarks about Jews "disturbing" and is asking Watson to clarify them.

Watson, 78, who lives in Cold Harbor, N.Y., tells Esquire magazine in its January edition that anti-Semitism, in some circumstances, is justified.

In an interview profile for the magazine Watson asks rhetorically, "Should you be allowed to make an anti-Semitic remark?" He answered: "Yes, because some anti-Semitism is justified. Just like some anti-Irish feeling is justified. If you can't be criticized, that's very dangerous. You lose the concept of a free society."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/10/224612.shtml?s=al&promo_code=2BFC-1

[MarZutra]

Scientist James D. Watson, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA and a Nobel Prize winner, says anti-Semitism is justified, in a recent magazine interview.

The ADL called Dr. Watson's remarks about Jews "disturbing" and is asking Watson to clarify them.

Watson, 78, who lives in Cold Harbor, N.Y., tells Esquire magazine in its January edition that anti-Semitism, in some circumstances, is justified.

In an interview profile for the magazine Watson asks rhetorically, "Should you be allowed to make an anti-Semitic remark?" He answered: "Yes, because some anti-Semitism is justified. Just like some anti-Irish feeling is justified. If you can't be criticized, that's very dangerous. You lose the concept of a free society."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/10/224612.shtml?s=al&promo_code=2BFC-1

Well, I can see his point really.  I hate the Henry Kissengers, Noam Chomskys, Fishers and Peres's of this Earth... 

[Dan]

Sometimes the truth CAN BE SHOCKING...  Not to the rest of us who have to deal with them on a daily basis!

[Jasmina]

  I can understand then why the blacks are so different then whites and frustrated, because their level of intelligence is lower! I guess it`s hard to be stupid, but yet, some of them are indeed intelligent, but surely non of those who attacked me...maybe your Government has to build some special schools, only for those with lower IQ...by the way did you know that your IQ level is not changing that much over period of years, no matter how many years of school you have and how much do you learn! because IQ means CAPACITY, it`s like a bottle, and it's your choice how much water you want to put in! and you are born with that CAPACITY! you can do some minor changes, but not that much. Usually your IQ meassured at 5 years old, will be the same, or slightly changed at 18 years old, or 25! It`s scientifically proven!

[Kananga]

James Waston is a known antisemite.  Given the history of eugenicists having made similar claims against Jews in the past, I'm surprised that not one poster here has even thought to question the validity of his research.



Just because can he prance around in a sportsjacket, toss around a bunch of big words, and makes all sorts of way out pronoucements as if any at all are founded in substance doesn't subtract from the fact that the guy is a racist as well as an anitsemite.

[cjd]

James Waston is a known antisemite.  Given the history of eugenicists having made similar claims against Jews in the past, I'm surprised that not one poster here has even thought to question the validity of his research.



Just because can he prance around in a sportsjacket, toss around a bunch of big words, and makes all sorts of way out pronoucements as if any at all are founded in substance doesn't subtract from the fact that the guy is a racist as well as an anitsemite.

Kananga this is what I mean about black society riding Jewish coat tails to equal rights. Here we have a thread about black intelligence and you have to toss in the fact that you feel that this guy was antisemitic. Why not make your case about why you believe this guy is wrong about blacks and leave Jews out of it.  As I said in another thread without the Jewish help black society received  back in the early days of civil rights blacks would still be riding the back of the bus. The sad fact is by trying to help blacks Liberal Jews actually made it bad for all the rest of Jewish society. The thanks Jews got for this help is unbounded hate and violence towards most segments of Jewish society from blacks.
I think this guy must have a point with some of his research. Some black folks are very intelligent but then again a vast majority are as evil and dumb as anything that walks on two's can get. Lets stick to the argument of black intelligence and not confuse the issue by bringing in antisemitism.

[MarZutra]

Very true Cjd...very true.  Sadly it is a clear case showing the accuracy in the statement about those who bite the hand that feeds them..... 

[MassuhDGoodName]

Kananga:  "...James Watson is a known antisemite..."

Kananga, Watson is on record as claiming that European Jews are the most intelligent people on Earth, and he's on record as wondering why other peoples are not as intelligent as European Jews.

If you have other actual quotes from Watson proving your assertion that Dr. Watson is "anti-Semitic", please come forth with them...I'm keeping an open mind to the fact that indeed he might be a Jew-hater, but you have so far failed to convince me.

One other thought...Watson claims that repeated scientific research concludes that Africans and Europeans have differing levels of intelligence.

Whether true or not, Dr. Watsons's conclusions do not make him ipso facto a "racist" (at least in terms of the current colloquial use of that word whereby it is wrongly used as a substitute for the word "hater").

[MarZutra]

Kananga:  "...James Watson is a known antisemite..."

Kananga, Watson is on record as claiming that European Jews are the most intelligent people on Earth, and he's on record as wondering why other peoples are not as intelligent as European Jews.

If you have other actual quotes from Watson proving your assertion that Dr. Watson is "anti-Semitic", please come forth with them...I'm keeping an open mind to the fact that indeed he might be a Jew-hater, but you have so far failed to convince me.

One other thought...Watson claims that repeated scientific research concludes that Africans and Europeans have differing levels of intelligence.

Whether true or not, Dr. Watsons's conclusions do not make him ipso facto a "racist" (at least in terms of the current colloquial use of that word whereby it is wrongly used as a substitute for the word "hater").

The funny thing is that if one looks up IQ on liberal/leftist Wikipedia it says essentially the exact same thing as this Dr. and Dr. J. Phillip Rushton.... 

[newman]

The fact that a scientist may or may not be an anti-semite have nothing to do with the validity of claims he makes on non-Jewish issues.

If I was walking past a construction site and an anti-semite yelled "Lookout! Falling brick!", I'd still listen.

[Kananga]

It's not that I have a need to coattail any of these issues, but I'd imagined Jews would understand this sort of thing and recognize that this is the same thing that Hitler's nazis done to your people.  The last thing I would expect is some seventy years later for European jews to be along side modern day Nazis advocating this sort of thing.

Did any of you bother to read the article I posted?  This crackpot maintains that melanin injections gives a person involuntary hardons!  Now some Jews are as dark as I am, but there are stil some of you are willing to entertain these theories because he's attacking blacks. 

Not to worry.  I understand the whole ideology behind the Eugenics movement is the notion that we wll all become "perfected" into some sort of ideal which embodies the aspirations of the White man and his glory.  We can take up this discussion again when they come around to lift up your coattail, take your melanin, shoot it up Pat Buchanan's butt so he can have sex with Ann Coulter and churn out little white "perfections".

[Kananga]

The fact that a scientist may or may not be an anti-semite have nothing to do with the validity of claims he makes on non-Jewish issues.

If I was walking past a construction site and an anti-semite yelled "Lookout! Falling brick!", I'd still listen.

Yes it does.  The fact that a white eugenicist who hates Jews more than likely hates blacks and everyone else who  doesn't look like a Aryan phenotype.

[MarZutra]

Actually, I don't believe it has either.  Scientists, be it, from all political "wings", various faiths and various ethnicities have come to similar conclusions drawn from an aray of scientific and cultural information to justify their conclusions. 

When Wikipedia, for example, which is not pro-Jewish, pro-Israel and is of the Left states similar to these other scientists, as per position stated above, I feel it has some merit....imo

I believe this same individual, as too Rushton and other scientists (perhaps racial bigots and anti-semites) still openly display the paramount findings/position of Ashkenaz Jews re: Asians and other groups..

After looking on the Wikipedia main page for IQ, I see they have editted or dropped the section on Jews, but they seem to have made an entire new page for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_intelligence

I think it comes down to the fact that Blacks generally have a lower IQ than whites but with strict adherance to the learning and cultural environments of a superior culture; Western Judeo-Christian, it is very possible to increase IQ, but, as Rushton states, if a gifted Black returns and lives within an inferior cultural environment; Black Africa, the IQ will decrease as well.   Seems logical.  I feel that a base is probably a genetic link which the thread above suggests however one can alway increase or decrease this number with additional external factors; culture, education etc....imo

[Kananga]

I want to know who and where are blacks these racialists are testing?  My IQ is quite high, but no one has ever asked me to participate in any of these studies.

Some one did a study a few years back when this guy, J. L. King wrote a book about the dirty down low.  It was through "scientific research" that said 3 out of 4 black men participate in gay sex.  It was later revealed that the people who were polled were all patrons of one of these Sunday night underground gay bars where gay black men frequent.  Do you think these StørmFrønt Aryan types who hate blacks care if it's really true or not?

You can take the results from any sort of research to validate a theory, if your main objective is to validate a theory.

[Kananga]

[Kananga]

Black women have both "narrow hips" and "wide buttocks" so they won't die from thirst while giving birth to small brained babies out in the desert! 

[MarZutra]

I want to know who and where are blacks these racialists are testing?  My IQ is quite high, but no one has ever asked me to participate in any of these studies.

Some one did a study a few years back when this guy, J. L. King wrote a book about the dirty down low.  It was through "scientific research" that said 3 out of 4 black men participate in gay sex.  It was later revealed that the people who were polled were all patrons of one of these Sunday night underground gay bars where gay black men frequent.  Do you think these StørmFrønt Aryan types who hate blacks care if it's really true or not?

You can take the results from any sort of research to validate a theory, if your main objective is to validate a theory.

You bring up some good points and glad to hear that you have a high IQ.  That is fabulous.  The fact of the matter is that if these same people doing the studies are StørmFrønt anti-semites and racial bigots why then would they continue this promulgation of Ashkenazim having higher IQ's as a subsect of white society? 

Ah....nevermind..  I'll just agree to disagree brother...