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The Worldwide Crisis of Islam => The Truth About Islam => Topic started by: Lisa on October 31, 2007, 03:31:15 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,306658,00.html
Bwahahahaha!!!
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I understand your amusement but sadly it's really not that much of a laughing matter.
You will soon see legislation beginning at the local level in the United States whereby non-Muslim women will be required to cover up when passing through Muslim areas.
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I understand your amusement but sadly it's really not that much of a laughing matter.
You will soon see legislation beginning at the local level in the United States whereby non-Muslim women will be required to dress modestly when passing through Muslim areas.
Modest dress to us and them differ greatly.
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I understand your amusement but sadly it's really not that much of a laughing matter.
You will soon see legislation beginning at the local level in the United States whereby non-Muslim women will be required to dress modestly when passing through Muslim areas.
Modest dress to us and them differ greatly.
I realize that. That's why I went back and edited it to 'cover up'.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
You just pissed Adam613 off.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
muslim males are filthy and have no self control or any sense of decency. Any woman, muslim or not, without a hijab or a tent sends them into a frenzy and most of the time results in the woman's rape. With chronic criminals, there is no accepting responsibility for one's actions - everything is the fault of their victim. This is found in islam especially with muslim males; (i.e. blaming their rape victim because she did not wear a hijab, etc).
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
muslim males are filthy and have no self control or any sense of decency. Any woman, muslim or not, without a hijab or a tent sends them into a frenzy and most of the time results in the woman's rape. With chronic criminals, there is no accepting responsibility for one's actions - everything is the fault of their victim. This is found in islam especially with muslim males; (i.e. blaming their rape victim because she did not wear a hijab, etc).
After the rape comes the honor-killing. The father will murder his daughter because she will no longer yield as many goats in the forced marriage.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
You just pissed Adam613 off.
Good.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
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Now now, let's watch where we're going with this. Tents are certainly not required, but the way the majority of women dress today is disgusting.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
There was nothing wrong with women being given the vote, thought I would definately say that some of the things that were done in the campaigns for it were terrible.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
Not singly. You're forgetting about the mental disorder called liberalism.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
There was nothing wrong with women being given the vote.
OK, but Women's Sufferage is the lifeblood of liberalism.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
You're forgetting about the mental disorder called liberalism.
Women's Sufferage/Feminism makes liberalism possible.
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
Maybe I overstated the point, a decent woman should not want to go around half naked, at the same time no should force them to dress modestly, it's their choice how they want to dress. If they want to go around half naked, decent men should be capable of ignoring the fact that that they are doing so.
Of course the half naked woman should not be assaulted, but I'm still going to look.
Anyhow, Feminismin my opinion, is SINGLY responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization.
It all began with Women's Sufferage. That was the beginning of the end.
There was nothing wrong with women being given the vote.
OK, but Women's Sufferage is the lifeblood of liberalism.
Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
I really don't think the problem has been caused by women's suffrage, as many men vote for idiots as women.
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
I really don't think the problem has been caused by women's suffrage, as many men vote for idiots as women.
I'm speaking in general terms, I'm not talking about exceptions.
Men and Women think differently, FTF.
Is it therefore presumable that they vote differently as well?
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
I really don't think the problem has been caused by women's suffrage, as many men vote for idiots as women.
I'm speaking in general terms, I'm not talking about exceptions.
Men and Women think differently, FTF.
Is it therefore presumable that they vote differently as well?
Men and women do think differently, and yes they therefore may vote differently. Men and women were created by God to work together, maybe the answer should be that only married couples should be allowed to vote, and that they should only have one vote between the two of them, the idea being that they discuss the vote and work together to decide who to vote for.
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
I really don't think the problem has been caused by women's suffrage, as many men vote for idiots as women.
I'm speaking in general terms, I'm not talking about exceptions.
Men and Women think differently, FTF.
Is it therefore presumable that they vote differently as well?
Women are as much in society as men, hence should have an equal say.
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Liberalism = Insanity
One thing for people to think about. The majority of politicians these days seem to be obsessed witht the economy, they think that everything resolves around money. We rejected Karl Marx's idea of social structure, so why have we accepted his analysis of society (that it resolves around money)?
Liberalism = Feminism/Women's Suffrage
In modern terminology, I agree with: Liberalism = Feminism but I cannot agree with Liberalism = Women's Suffrage, women have as much right to vote as men.
I'm not talking about the 'rights' of Women, but the origins of Liberalism.
Women have the right to not be hurt, touched, raped, killed, etc., but vote? The word 'right' implies entitlement. I prefer 'privilege'.
We cannot AFFORD to give Women the privilege to vote anylonger. Our society simply cannot survive such a scenario.
I really don't think the problem has been caused by women's suffrage, as many men vote for idiots as women.
I'm speaking in general terms, I'm not talking about exceptions.
Men and Women think differently, FTF.
Is it therefore presumable that they vote differently as well?
Men and women do think differently, and yes they therefore may vote differently. Men and women were created by G-d to work together, maybe the answer should be that only married couples should be allowed to vote, and that they should only have one vote between the two of them, the idea being that they discuss the vote and work together to decide who to vote for.
Work together, yes, but I'm talking about voting.
Thomas Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers of America would have laughed at the idea of Women's Suffrage. If the Founding Fathers had thought Women's Suffrage was a good idea, they would have made it a part of the Constitution. They did not.
Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
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Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
same in the UK...
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Women are as much in society as men, hence should have an equal say.
OK, but don't complain then about Liberalism and Liberal policies.
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Women are as much in society as men, hence should have an equal say.
OK, but don't complain then about Liberalism and Liberal policies.
Liberalism started much before Women's Suffrage.
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Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
same in the UK...
Shows how the Old-Timers felt differently about Women voting.
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
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Work together, yes, but I'm talking about voting.
Thomas Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers of America would have laughed at the idea of Women's Suffrage. If the Founding Fathers had thought Women's Suffrage was a good idea, they would have made it a part of the Constitution. They did not.
Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
John Adam's wife advocated for women's suffrage. You can see this in her letters. Although John Adams was shocked with this, he nevertheless found her letters to be a rather convincing argument.
He wasn't going to disagree with his wife! That would not be smart.
I don't know if you're married, but its not a good idea to get in the habit of disagreeing with one's wife.
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Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
same in the UK...
Shows how the Old-Timers felt differently about Women voting.
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. In the UK, women's suffrage came in, in 1918.
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Women are as much in society as men, hence should have an equal say.
OK, but don't complain then about Liberalism and Liberal policies.
Liberalism started much before Women's Suffrage.
Not the kind of Liberalism that we know today.
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Women's Suffrage (in America) did not come about until the twentieth century.
same in the UK...
Shows how the Old-Timers felt differently about Women voting.
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. In the UK, women's suffrage came in, in 1918.
It didn't exist until 1918, why? There must have been a reason.
Could it be that the Old-Timers thought it a bad idea?
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If men find it hard to look at a woman who is not covered from head to toe, that's the man's problem not the woman's, it's the man who needs to do something about it. (as in stop finding it hard, or perhaps just look away whenever a woman walks past)
There's a big difference between 'covered from head to toe' and modest dress.
Did you ever know either of your grandmothers? Do you remember how they dressed?
I'm sure not like sluts, and I'm sure that their society wasn't morally decreped either. I'm sure they didn't wear tight shorts, low cut tops, thong underwear, etc.
I was at the supermarket the other day and a woman was wearing jeans cut so low that I could see the top of her pubic hair! What is the world coming to?
I don't want to see a half-naked woman unless I'm going to have sex with her. Go ahead, call me a muslim, but I have better things to think about than sex.
If women behaved themselves, men would be more productive and a lot less aggressive.
If women want to dress like sluts, then they are asking for trouble - not that the males have any right to give them trouble, they do not.
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My final say about women's suffrage, as a Christian, I must refer to what is written in the NT and I see the following verse: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
If we are all one, we should be able to earn the same privileges and have the same rights.
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My final say about women's suffrage, as a Christian, I must refer to what is written in the NT and I see the following verse: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
If we are all one, we should be able to earn the same privileges and have the same rights.
I don't think that the concept of equality 'in Christ' is the same thing as Women's Suffrage.
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My final say about women's suffrage, as a Christian, I must refer to what is written in the NT and I see the following verse: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
If we are all one, we should be able to earn the same privileges and have the same rights.
I don't think that the concept of equality 'in Christ' is the same thing as Women's Suffrage.
You can argue all day, for now I've had enough.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
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My final say about women's suffrage, as a Christian, I must refer to what is written in the NT and I see the following verse: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
If we are all one, we should be able to earn the same privileges and have the same rights.
I don't think that the concept of equality 'in Christ' is the same thing as Women's Suffrage.
You can argue all day, for now I've had enough.
I've got other things to do too.
I will say this, however. In my opinion, the issue of Feminism is the biggie, and that's why I'm passionate and long-winded about it.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
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Maybe democracy isn't a good idea.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
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My final say about women's suffrage, as a Christian, I must refer to what is written in the NT and I see the following verse: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
If we are all one, we should be able to earn the same privileges and have the same rights.
I don't think that the concept of equality 'in Christ' is the same thing as Women's Suffrage.
You can argue all day, for now I've had enough.
I've got other things to do too.
I will say this, however. In my opinion, the issue of Feminism is the biggie, and that's why I'm passionate and long-winded about it.
1 Corinthians 14:34 (King James Version)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
How about this, some kind of extreme lewd and provocative clothes can be seen as "sexual harasment" :D but muslims men are harasing even woman in burkas they're worse than animals.
And you shud give the voting privilige only for persons who served in army and or defended it in security services citisenship is about being responsible for its country; and for sure no voting for youth under 30 for both sexes.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
Not in general.
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woman should have the same political rights as men, no questions asked
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woman should have the same political rights as men, no questions asked
No questions asked?
OK. Enjoy Liberalism.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
Not in general.
So to you, more women vote for leftist B.S and that is why you do not think they should be given the right to vote?
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
Not in general.
So to you, more women vote for leftist B.S and that is why you do not think they should be given the right to vote?
In a nutshell.
There are exceptions, but in general, yes. Women tend to want peace at any price.
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
Not in general.
So to you, more women vote for leftist B.S and that is why you do not think they should be given the right to vote?
In a nutshell.
There are exceptions, but in general, yes. Women tend to want peace at any price.
Ah ha, now we are getting somewhere. Is there any stats available showing that more women than men want peace at any price? What if it was more men who wanted peace at any price, would you be against men having the right to vote?
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There is nothing wrong with women voting.
Then don't let me hear you complain about Liberals and Liberal policy.
Women and men vote for whoever they want. There are women who vote for conservatives just as there are men who vote for liberal B.S.
Not in general.
So to you, more women vote for leftist B.S and that is why you do not think they should be given the right to vote?
In a nutshell.
There are exceptions, but in general, yes. Women tend to want peace at any price.
Ah ha, now we are getting somewhere. Is there any stats available showing that more women than men want peace at any price?
Men and Women think differently. (Remember, I'm talking in generalities.)
Women tend to be subjective, men, objective.
Women are more likely to use diplomacy. Men are more likely to fight.
Women are more likely to 'not hurt anyone's feelings' ('political correctness', 'tolerance', etc.). Men are more likely to speak plainly ('racism', 'sexism', 'intolerance', etc.).
This is what I mean.
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You just pissed Adam613 off.
I always thought AHMAD613 was a Muslim.
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HERE goes!Maybe democracy isn't such a great idea.I love our founding fathers but that was another question they had a problem with.NO im not a commy !LOL :::D
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HERE goes!Maybe democracy isn't such a great idea.I love our founding fathers but that was another question they had a problem with.NO im not a commy !LOL :::D
If you're picking up on my comment about democracy possibly ebing a lacking idea, you should also note that I am anti almost everything left wing...
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ftf no and yes .Picking up on it but I think sometimes the people don't like what is right so why trust them.Remember your talking to a right wing nut job here. ;)NO communist utopia in my mind.Theocracy of a sort run by judges perhaps? :)
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I always vote conservative, have never had a bleeding heart, and got tired of the 'give peace a chance' bumper stickers I see everywhere around here so I ordered a 'give war a chance' one online and put it in my back window....for some reason people keep wanting to give me the finger...those nutty "peace" lovers ^-^
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ftf no and yes .Picking up on it but I think sometimes the people don't like what is right so why trust them.Remember your talking to a right wing nut job here. ;)NO communist utopia in my mind.Theocracy of a sort run by judges perhaps? :)
I really don't know, all I know is that our current system doesn't work.
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I really don't know, all I know is that our current system doesn't work.
Women's Suffrage, my friend. Women's Suffrage.
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I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...
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I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...
I'm not sure what you mean.
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I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...
I'm not sure what you mean.
He means that idots shouldn't be allowed to vote, but everyone else should.
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Funny then I would like democracy! O0
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I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...
I'm not sure what you mean.
He means that idots shouldn't be allowed to vote, but everyone else should.
Oh, I get it. Well, we all have opinions.
Rabbi Kahane said, "That's what makes ballgames."
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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysia's Muslim men are suffering sleepless nights and cannot pray properly because their thoughts are distracted by a growing number of women who wear sexy clothes in public, a prominent cleric said.
Thats the funniest thing I have ever read :::D
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
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I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...
That's good one OdKahaneChai; it expalains a lot. ;)
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
And by the way, beautiful women are FAR more tempting to men than Cars or food.
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
Our society isn't dieing because women vote, work or speak up.
It's going down the drain because of self-hate,false white guilt, moral relativism and spiritual bankruptsy............all of these corrupt ideas were started by communists and liberal academics- ALL MEN, BTW.
Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Golda Meir ordered the assassination of arab terrorists post Munich.
Deborah (of the book of Judges) was a great military leader of the Hebrew Nation and the wisest person in her day.
Closer to home......:
Lisa, Kellymaureen and Shoshana are courageous, conservative, "kill-the-enemy" women. Would you want to see their votes not count this election? Should we discourage 50% of our population from making a contribution to our society?
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
They're a nation of priests and are held to higher standards than us.
Their standards of modesty are not required by us any more than their food laws.
And by the way, beautiful women are FAR more tempting to men than Cars or food.
Not if your more hungry than horny. If you hadn't eaten for 12 hrs and I offered you Drew Barrymore or a pizza, you'd take the pizza.
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Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Margaret Thatcher was a disaster.
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
Our society isn't dieing because women vote, work or speak up.
It's going down the drain because of self-hate,false white guilt, moral relativism and spiritual bankruptsy............all of these corrupt ideas were started by communists and liberal academics- ALL MEN, BTW.
Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Golda Meir ordered the assassination of arab terrorists post Munich.
Deborah (of the book of Judges) was a great military leader of the Hebrew Nation and the wisest person in her day.
Closer to home......:
Lisa, Kellymaureen and Shoshana are courageous, conservative, "kill-the-enemy" women. Would you want to see their votes not count this election? Should we discourage 50% of our population from making a contribution to our society?
Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
Our society isn't dieing because women vote, work or speak up.
It's going down the drain because of self-hate,false white guilt, moral relativism and spiritual bankruptsy............all of these corrupt ideas were started by communists and liberal academics- ALL MEN, BTW.
Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Golda Meir ordered the assassination of arab terrorists post Munich.
Deborah (of the book of Judges) was a great military leader of the Hebrew Nation and the wisest person in her day.
Closer to home......:
Lisa, Kellymaureen and Shoshana are courageous, conservative, "kill-the-enemy" women. Would you want to see their votes not count this election? Should we discourage 50% of our population from making a contribution to our society?
Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If they want safety at all costs, we simply must make them realise that "peace now" leads to disasters in the long run.
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
Our society isn't dieing because women vote, work or speak up.
It's going down the drain because of self-hate,false white guilt, moral relativism and spiritual bankruptsy............all of these corrupt ideas were started by communists and liberal academics- ALL MEN, BTW.
Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Golda Meir ordered the assassination of arab terrorists post Munich.
Deborah (of the book of Judges) was a great military leader of the Hebrew Nation and the wisest person in her day.
Closer to home......:
Lisa, Kellymaureen and Shoshana are courageous, conservative, "kill-the-enemy" women. Would you want to see their votes not count this election? Should we discourage 50% of our population from making a contribution to our society?
Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If they want safety at all costs, we simply must make them realise that "peace now" leads to disasters in the long run.
Yes, but how do we do that?
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Just a comment.I think women in long dresses look soooo much more beautiful than a women in tight jeans.I always let them know. :)
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
As far as sufferage is concerned:
Woman should be able to vote just as they should be able to work, get elected to office, sit on a jury or start a business. They pay tax afterall. Didn't the founding Fathers say "no taxation without representation"?
Then enjoy the death of our society, Newman...because it is GOING to happen.
Our society isn't dieing because women vote, work or speak up.
It's going down the drain because of self-hate,false white guilt, moral relativism and spiritual bankruptsy............all of these corrupt ideas were started by communists and liberal academics- ALL MEN, BTW.
Margaret Thatcher saved Britain from (male) Labor Party economic ruin and destroyed the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
Golda Meir ordered the assassination of arab terrorists post Munich.
Deborah (of the book of Judges) was a great military leader of the Hebrew Nation and the wisest person in her day.
Closer to home......:
Lisa, Kellymaureen and Shoshana are courageous, conservative, "kill-the-enemy" women. Would you want to see their votes not count this election? Should we discourage 50% of our population from making a contribution to our society?
Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If they want safety at all costs, we simply must make them realise that "peace now" leads to disasters in the long run.
If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
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If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
Yes .....I want to protect each of my 12 children aswell: Latisha, Majda, Clarisha, Ebony, Latifa, Shannel, Oprah, Keyshawn, Raheem, G-Unit and Threepac.
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Best laugh of the day!!!!!!!!!!I love the Oprah one! :::D :)
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If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
Yes .....I want to protect each of my 12 children aswell: Latisha, Majda, Clarisha, Ebony, Latifa, Shannel, Oprah, Keyshawn, Raheem, G-Unit and Threepac.
Lol my my arent you busy making babies :::D Im sure that Loquanda feels left out you didnt mention her, just because shes the white sheep of the family isnt any reason to leave her out ;)
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lol :::D
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If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
Yes .....I want to protect each of my 12 children aswell: Latisha, Majda, Clarisha, Ebony, Latifa, Shannel, Oprah, Keyshawn, Raheem, G-Unit and Threepac.
Lol my my arent you busy making babies :::D Im sure that Loquanda feels left out you didnt mention her, just because shes the white sheep of the family isnt any reason to leave her out ;)
Its ok for him to make babies, think of the poor wife, popping those out :-\
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If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
Yes .....I want to protect each of my 12 children aswell: Latisha, Majda, Clarisha, Ebony, Latifa, Shannel, Oprah, Keyshawn, Raheem, G-Unit and Threepac.
Lol my my arent you busy making babies :::D Im sure that Loquanda feels left out you didnt mention her, just because shes the white sheep of the family isnt any reason to leave her out ;)
Its ok for him to make babies, think of the poor wife, popping those out :-\
I expect to have at least 8-10 kids O0
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I used to want 12! ;) :)
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
And by the way, beautiful women are FAR more tempting to men than Cars or food.
Very true. Women in more reveiling clothing are definately a distraction. Well in my case I'm distracted by any attractive women, regardless of what she's wearing :)
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I used to want 12! ;) :)
If I can afford 12, I'll have 12 O0
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If anything I became MORE of a 'kill the enemy" person after having a child...I want to protect him at any cost from having to grow up in an islamic world, already he has to deal with things that I never had to growing up. So many have become such appeasing sissys in this country I want him to see that thats NOT the answer.
Yes .....I want to protect each of my 12 children aswell: Latisha, Majda, Clarisha, Ebony, Latifa, Shannel, Oprah, Keyshawn, Raheem, G-Unit and Threepac.
Lol my my arent you busy making babies :::D Im sure that Loquanda feels left out you didnt mention her, just because shes the white sheep of the family isnt any reason to leave her out ;)
Its ok for him to make babies, think of the poor wife, popping those out :-\
I expect to have at least 8-10 kids O0
You expect to make 8-10 kids your don't give birth to them.
The danger occured while in childhood birth and carry of a child is high on a mother.
Increases with each birth.
8-10 or 12 kids is not healthy for the woman.
Studies have shown the less educated the woman the higher number of children she produces.
Hence the high child birth rate in third world countries.
So you looking what a woman at the bottom of the education scale?
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I'm with ftf on this one.
Women's clothing choices are irrelevant.
Part of living in a free society and being a responsible adult is coping with temptation. We all walk past Porsche convertibles but resist the urge to hotwire it and drive away. We all walk past a bakery on our way home when we're hungry but don't jump the counter and steal the hot rolls. So we should ALL be able to cope with the sight of attractive women be they in tents, mini skirts or nude without resorting to rape or going cross-eyed.
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
And by the way, beautiful women are FAR more tempting to men than Cars or food.
Very true. Women in more reveiling clothing are definately a distraction. Well in my case I'm distracted by any attractive women, regardless of what she's wearing :)
Maybe she need to be completely covered up ;)
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the cleric has a good point, instead of laughing and automatically dismissing what someone says (regardless of what religion or who he is) its wise to understand the message. He is absolutly right, women should not dress like sluts and society is responsible for what its members do in public (privatly a little more complicated). Why should someone stumble at a half naked wh()re in the streets evertime one has to go to school, go to the grocery store, etc. etc. ? - Newman your right one has to turn away, but you have to realise that only a very small percentage of people actually do that 100% of the time. Sooner or later a guy will forget and look, and get damaged by these images. Also these things do lead to worse things, and do distract men - its allmost impossible to forget an image- it will allways be stuck in ones head. (subconsciously).
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I expect to have at least 8-10 kids O0
You expect to make 8-10 kids your don't give birth to them.
The danger occured while in childhood birth and carry of a child is high on a mother.
Increases with each birth.
8-10 or 12 kids is not healthy for the woman.
Studies have shown the less educated the woman the higher number of children she produces.
Hence the high child birth rate in third world countries.
So you looking what a woman at the bottom of the education scale?
Orthodox Jews pull it off, the Italians and Irish pulled it off.. and they're not super-humans. It is perfectly fine for women to have that many children. The people that conducted this study that you're talking about are probably the same people that would gladly suck the brain out of an unborn child.
Stupid people can populate, smart people can also populate. Reproduction is part humankind's most fundamental genetic makeup, it is rediculous to correlate education:birth rate. Starving people continue to have children because they're stupid. People in the civilized, educated world can't have as many children because life is simply too fast pace to take care of so many children.
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I think the more kids a woman has, the better of a woman she is. I want at least 4 kids.
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If she is young.12 is fine. ;) :)
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Women are safe until they're 40. My mother was 40 when I was born, I think I'm ok :-X
I'm sure you can find a guy that will want (more) kids.. they're out there. I'm keeping an eye out for you Kel ;) and Happy Birthday hun O0 :-*
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Women are safe until they're 40. My mother was 40 when I was born, I think I'm ok :-X
I'm sure you can find a guy that will want (more) kids.. they're out there. I'm keeping an eye out for you Kel ;) and Happy Birthday hun O0 :-*
Awwww hey thanks! I have one child already so another 2 or 3 would be pretty great, twins run in my family (my dad is an identical twin and he has another set of brothers who are also) so maybe i can do it that way ^-^
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Yes and at what cost to the woman, you think that each child does not take massive resources from the mother while developing?
I have known women at 60 to bear children too, its that good or plain stupid.
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Women are safe until they're 40. My mother was 40 when I was born, I think I'm ok :-X
I'm sure you can find a guy that will want (more) kids.. they're out there. I'm keeping an eye out for you Kel ;) and Happy Birthday hun O0 :-*
Well no you are incorrect every childbirth is at risk, regardless of age. If you think it is not, then you are well miss informed, which would explain the high child death rates outside Australia.
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Kelly why will you not have 12?
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Kelly why will you not have 12?
Lol I dont want to be giving birth at 50 :D
Im too old to have more than a couple more.
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Kelly why will you not have 12?
Lol I dont want to be giving birth at 50 :D
Im too old to have more than a couple more.
No you not according to these men you should still be producing like a rabbit, why age is not a factor here.
You have many years let in you until you hit menopause you are younger than me, so twins in the family you can easy to do it.
Come on girl get there BREEEEEEEEEDDDDDD
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Your not a woman unless you breed at least 12 or more.
You can do 20 :::D
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A bare minimum of 25 would be advisable.
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Yes and at what cost to the woman, you think that each child does not take massive resources from the mother while developing?
I have known women at 60 to bear children too, its that good or plain stupid.
Resources are definitely taken from the mother during pregnancy, but they are regained after birth.
Well no you are incorrect every childbirth is at risk, regardless of age. If you think it is not, then you are well miss informed, which would explain the high child death rates outside Australia.
Women should not be having children over 40.
And yes every birth is risky, driving your car is risky too - but you do that every day. As long as the woman is healthy enough to give birth.. she can have several children. If there is a chance of the mother's life at risk, of course she should abort the baby. You're making it sound like women shouldn't have more than 1 or 2 kids.. as if it's impossible to happen in the West.
Australia is scarcely under populated, it's the size of the inter-continental U.S with 20 million people. You don't have a high child death rate because you don't have children.
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Long term damage to the woman can't be fixed.
And really do you really want to know all that happens to a woman in those stages, and after?
And I love women to have kids, but not to the extent of damaging the mothers health.
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Kelly why will you not have 12?
Lol I dont want to be giving birth at 50 :D
Im too old to have more than a couple more.
No you not according to these men you should still be producing like a rabbit, why age is not a factor here.
You have many years let in you until you hit menopause you are younger than me, so twins in the family you can easy to do it.
Come on girl get there BREEEEEEEEEDDDDDD
:::D
Lol Ill be needing a guy for that, im not an amoeba :::D
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I Say what the heck ,,,,,,Breed!I on average probably have more babes than any one.Remember, those who breed lead! ;)
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I Say what the heck ,,,,,,Breed!I on average probably have more babes than any one.Remember, those who breed lead! ;)
The problem is whats breeding isn't leading or doing much else. They are just becoming a drain on society!
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We can be different!We here are! ;)
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Long term damage to the woman can't be fixed.
And really do you really want to know all that happens to a woman in those stages, and after?
And I love women to have kids, but not to the extent of damaging the mothers health.
What long term damage? I've met many women that have had 8+ children.. and they're in perfect health. Explain the high Jewish birth rate in Israel, those Jewish mothers with several children were resisting soldiers.
No wonder why Oz is so under populated.. I'm assuming you people must be getting jammed with anti-birth propaganda.
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I would have liked to have 3 or 4 but thats not how its going to work out....first because Ill be 32 next week and secondly most guys my age (or preferably older) are divorced and already have kids and arent looking to have more :-\
Kelly why will you not have 12?
Lol I dont want to be giving birth at 50 :D
Im too old to have more than a couple more.
No you not according to these men you should still be producing like a rabbit, why age is not a factor here.
You have many years let in you until you hit menopause you are younger than me, so twins in the family you can easy to do it.
Come on girl get there BREEEEEEEEEDDDDDD
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Lol Ill be needing a guy for that, im not an amoeba :::D
:::D :::D :::D :::D
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Long term damage to the woman can't be fixed.
And really do you really want to know all that happens to a woman in those stages, and after?
And I love women to have kids, but not to the extent of damaging the mothers health.
What long term damage? I've met many women that have had 8+ children.. and they're in perfect health. Explain the high Jewish birth rate in Israel, those Jewish mothers with several children were resisting soldiers.
No wonder why Oz is so under populated.. I'm assuming you people must be getting jammed with anti-birth propaganda.
Vito google what happens to a women in childbirth and after effects of multiable births, long term damage.
I don't want to go into details about production on this part of the forum.
Also I feel you are too inexperienced to talk openly about that side of womanhood with you.
Not being despectful to you Vito, just if it was Wayne that is different because he has a wife and kids, and already knows the changes in a woman that occurs with motherhood.
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Wow ,Ouch!PS I have 1000'000 thousand on my wife LOL O0
Joking all!
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No wonder why Oz is so under populated.. I'm assuming you people must be getting jammed with anti-birth propaganda.
:::D Vito see you post so uninformed.
They pay us to have babies $5000 per baby. We get paid leave to look after them from our jobs.
Paid child support from the government.
They are trying to make us have children.
The opposite is true, they are all for child propaganda.
They even help with daycare if required.
Thats why low class females breed like rabbits, they do it solely for money, and the benfits are paid until the child is 16 years old.
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Wow ,Ouch!PS I have 1000'000 thousand on my wife LOL O0
Joking all!
LOL Wayne why not the 12 kiddies why stop at 4 ^-^ :::D
As if I didn't know that answer ;)
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YOU know im only trying to be politically IN correct! ;) :)
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:::D :::D :::D
8;)
I know I know ::)
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Have some baby's Vito and all .Raise them right and wait,,,,,,first find a gal!YOU can do it.Your just being modest. ;) :)
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
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Long term damage to the woman can't be fixed.
And really do you really want to know all that happens to a woman in those stages, and after?
And I love women to have kids, but not to the extent of damaging the mothers health.
What long term damage? I've met many women that have had 8+ children.. and they're in perfect health. Explain the high Jewish birth rate in Israel, those Jewish mothers with several children were resisting soldiers.
No wonder why Oz is so under populated.. I'm assuming you people must be getting jammed with anti-birth propaganda.
Vito google what happens to a women in childbirth and after effects of multiable births, long term damage.
I don't want to go into details about production on this part of the forum.
Also I feel you are too inexperienced to talk openly about that side of womanhood with you.
Not being despectful to you Vito, just if it was Wayne that is different because he has a wife and kids, and already knows the changes in a woman that occurs with motherhood.
Yep, I've found what you're talking about. Do you know what scientists classify as "multiple births"?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/medical_notes/239741.stm
Read that and get back to me.
That is completely different than one birth at a time! One birth at a time is totally normal!!
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SO far I love it .Thanks infidel! ;) :) :) :) :)
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first find a gal!YOU can do it.Your just being modest. ;) :)
I'm just a wuss ...
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
Lemme guess, a man wrote that.
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Vito
your Italian so you must be joking us. :)
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
:::D :::D :::D boy oh boy ;D
Ok, I'm not that bad....her problems are important too. And we're both heads of the house.
And instead of the ribbon in the hair, make it lingerie ^-^
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Vito
your Italian so you must be joking us. :)
I'm half Italian... my Bohemian blood completely dilutes the Casanova blood.
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Nah! :)
WE cant ever stop loving women...Its in our Blood! O0
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Nah! :)
WE cant ever stop loving women...Its in our Blood! O0
My ex Swedish girl thought I was prince charming.. but that's done. ???
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
:::D lets see, when I get home after my 9-10 hour day, make dinner, eat with my son, watch some news, discuss his school day and current events with him, help him with homework, pay the bills, put the dishes in the diswasher, take him to hockey, do laundry, and the zillion other things I have to do.....I may have a spare moment to throw on the pearl necklace and sensable shoes with the lace collar dress ^-^........though I think being happy to see him (if I had a him at the moment lol) is a given, I would be happy to see him for sure
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Uff.. I complain about this way too much. :-X
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CAN I date her????LOL.There will be another.In high school I thought I was cool.Afterwards others tell me how cool i am!LOL.Things change.You just need your confidence back.Hit on alot of decent women and one will date you.BUT be a Christian or Jewish gentle man!And I mean that! O0 :)
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Uff.. I complain about this way too much. :-X
I wish I knew girls your age...the ones that I see hanging out around here, I just have to shake my head and wonder when they plan on growing up a little ::)
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CAN I date her????LOL.There will be another.In high school I thought I was cool.Afterwards others tell me how cool i am!LOL.Things change.You just need your confidence back.Hit on alot of decent women and one will date you.BUT be a Christian or Jewish gentle man!And I mean that! O0 :)
Well I'm Christian, and would only date a Christian girl. There aren't many decent women in NYC Wayne :)
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Uff.. I complain about this way too much. :-X
I wish I knew girls your age...the ones that I see hanging out around here, I just have to shake my head and wonder when they plan on growing up a little ::)
It's the same down here Kel...
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Im not crazy guy ,just conservative guy .Come visit.I Speak NY Remember Im from there!you can relax and hang out!WE are 1 in 3 Italian down here .Miners from Calebrese ;) :)
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Im not crazy guy ,just conservative guy .Come visit.I Speak NY Remember Im from there!you can relax and hang out!WE are 1 in 3 Italian down here .Miners from Calebrese ;) :)
Are you serious? It's really 1/3 Italian in WV?
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IN north central West Virginia!Yeah.Im from NY but NY is not Italian .IT is here.The most violent mafias were from here .They just have a different accent!LOL ;) :) ;)
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Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If women are only meant for having children , then (by your reasoning) we should put a bullet in their heads when they reach menopause. Breeding is ONE of many things women do, not the ONLY thing. It's like saying men's sole purpose is copulation.
It is true that most women will opt for diplomacy over war, but because of their biology and subsequent lifestyle, they are rarely in a position to dictate policy. Secondly, when it comes to voting they will vote more on issues of health, education and other social issues over foreign policy. I've actually noticed that it is the stay at home baby factory types who always want peace and safety at any cost. The more assertive women with careers, businesses and their own homes are quite OK with bombing our enemies.
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Long term damage to the woman can't be fixed.
And really do you really want to know all that happens to a woman in those stages, and after?
And I love women to have kids, but not to the extent of damaging the mothers health.
What long term damage? I've met many women that have had 8+ children.. and they're in perfect health. Explain the high Jewish birth rate in Israel, those Jewish mothers with several children were resisting soldiers.
No wonder why Oz is so under populated.. I'm assuming you people must be getting jammed with anti-birth propaganda.
Vito google what happens to a women in childbirth and after effects of multiable births, long term damage.
I don't want to go into details about production on this part of the forum.
Also I feel you are too inexperienced to talk openly about that side of womanhood with you.
Not being despectful to you Vito, just if it was Wayne that is different because he has a wife and kids, and already knows the changes in a woman that occurs with motherhood.
Yep, I've found what you're talking about. Do you know what scientists classify as "multiple births"?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/medical_notes/239741.stm
Read that and get back to me.
That is completely different than one birth at a time! One birth at a time is totally normal!!
I didn't it wasn't normal I said it causes damage to the woman each time she gives birth.
And each time the damage can't be repaired.
Look up the word prolapse
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
Lemme guess, a man wrote that.
Yup ;D
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
:::D lets see, when I get home after my 9-10 hour day, make dinner, eat with my son, watch some news, discuss his school day and current events with him, help him with homework, pay the bills, put the dishes in the diswasher, take him to hockey, do laundry, and the zillion other things I have to do.....I may have a spare moment to throw on the pearl necklace and sensable shoes with the lace collar dress ^-^........though I think being happy to see him (if I had a him at the moment lol) is a given, I would be happy to see him for sure
Did you put the ribbon in your hair ?
I do when I am in the field, makes me feel so pretty :::D
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I will go now and work and do unwomenly things for my people 8;)
Before I go I found a post that sums up some peoples attitudes here.
Now Kelly you must take great note of this. ^-^
The good wife's guide for the 1950's
1) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal <especially his favorite dish> is part of the warm welcome needed.
2) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be freshlooking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
3) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a life and one of your duties is to provide it.
4) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.
5) Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc and then run a dustcloth over the tables.
6) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal sarisfaction.
7)Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces <if they are small>, comb their hair and, if necessary, change their cloths. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimise all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
8) Be happy to see him.
9) Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
10) Listen to him. YOu may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
11) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
12) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.
13) Dont greet him with complaints and problems.
14) Dont complain if hes late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.
15) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
16) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing, and pleasant voice.
17) Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgement or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
18) A good wife always knows her place.
:::D lets see, when I get home after my 9-10 hour day, make dinner, eat with my son, watch some news, discuss his school day and current events with him, help him with homework, pay the bills, put the dishes in the diswasher, take him to hockey, do laundry, and the zillion other things I have to do.....I may have a spare moment to throw on the pearl necklace and sensable shoes with the lace collar dress ^-^........though I think being happy to see him (if I had a him at the moment lol) is a given, I would be happy to see him for sure
Did you put the ribbon in your hair ?
I do when I am in the field, makes me feel so pretty :::D
Absolutely, I could post a picture of my hair in a pretty ribbon but then you wont be able to be held responsible for your actions ^-^....I put a pretty ponytail holder in when I shoot, does that count 8;)
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100% it counts Kelly ;D
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100% it counts Kelly ;D
Lol so im almost a 50s wife 8;)
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While Muslim criticism of the West for allowing "seductive" fashions to be worn by our women does have some merit, I would have to ask these Muslim clerics to explain the following:
Why it is that if Muslim women are appropriately and modestly attired, then how and why does the epidemic level of rape, extra-marital affairs, the brutal beating of women, and the widespread practice of male homosexuality pervade all of Muslim societies?
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100% it counts Kelly ;D
Lol so im almost a 50s wife 8;)
Closer than me :::D
Anyway my fella doesn't want that, he wants a woman to stand beside him not behind him.
And Kelly there are good men out there that do like a woman with children. ;)
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100% it counts Kelly ;D
Lol so im almost a 50s wife 8;)
Closer than me :::D
Anyway my fella doesn't want that, he wants a woman to stand beside him not behind him.
And Kelly there are good men out there that do like a woman with children. ;)
Lol good, send him on over....he needs to be older than me, smart, funny and have the same views as me most importantly O0
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While Muslim criticism of the West for allowing "seductive" fashions to be worn by our women does have some merit, I would have to ask these Muslim clerics to explain the following:
Why it is that if Muslim women are appropriately and modestly attired, then how and why does the epidemic level of rape, extra-marital affairs, the brutal beating of women, and the widespread practice of male homosexuality pervade all of Muslim societies?
because its easy to blame another rather than take responsibility for ones own actions
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100% it counts Kelly ;D
Lol so im almost a 50s wife 8;)
Closer than me :::D
Anyway my fella doesn't want that, he wants a woman to stand beside him not behind him.
And Kelly there are good men out there that do like a woman with children. ;)
Lol good, sent him on over....he needs to be older than me, smart, funny and have the same views as me most importantly O0
Well I will see if He has a younger brother, I was refering to mine then. And I am not giving him up ;)
Well not yet anyway lol
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While Muslim criticism of the West for allowing "seductive" fashions to be worn by our women does have some merit, I would have to ask these Muslim clerics to explain the following:
Why it is that if Muslim women are appropriately and modestly attired, then how and why does the epidemic level of rape, extra-marital affairs, the brutal beating of women, and the widespread practice of male homosexuality pervade all of Muslim societies?
because its easy to blame another rather than take responsibility for ones own actions
The dress and behaviour of western women are nothing but convenient excuses for the muslims' second passtime- rape.
Whenever KKK members are tried for lynching a black, it's always "well, he stole this " or "he looked at somebody's wife" or some convenient excuse. If they were so concerned about law and order they'd have lynched white car thieves, too.
The muslim male fully intends to rape women as a form of recreation no matter what. He just needs the slightest excuse because he has a religion that allows it.
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Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If women are only meant for having children , then (by your reasoning) we should put a bullet in their heads when they reach menopause. Breeding is ONE of many things women do, not the ONLY thing. It's like saying men's sole purpose is copulation.
I didn't say 'only'. Don't put words in my mouth mate!
I said, "Women are meant for having children."
The 'bullet in the head thing' is not my 'reasoning', it is your misinterpretation, bloke.
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Women are meant for having children, not voting, not warfare.
Saying that there are 'kill the enemy' women is like saying there are good black people. It may be true, but we're still talking about a small percentage of people.
Most Women want 'peace at any price' and 'safety at all costs'.
If women are only meant for having children , then (by your reasoning) we should put a bullet in their heads when they reach menopause. Breeding is ONE of many things women do, not the ONLY thing. It's like saying men's sole purpose is copulation.
I didn't say 'only'. Don't put words in my mouth mate!
I said, "Women are meant for having children."
The 'bullet in the head thing' is not my 'reasoning', it is your misinterpretation, bloke.
Then why is voting (10 minutes, once every four years) at odds with having children?
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I didn't it wasn't normal I said it causes damage to the woman each time she gives birth.
And each time the damage can't be repaired.
Look up the word prolapse
Jewish women in Israel and even here in NY prove that you can have 10-12 children and still be in perfect health, and have healthy children. Of course, bad things do happen.. but I'm using the example of thousands of Jewish families that I see in real-time rather than data.
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I didn't it wasn't normal I said it causes damage to the woman each time she gives birth.
And each time the damage can't be repaired.
Look up the word prolapse
Jewish women in Israel and even here in NY prove that you can have 10-12 children and still be in perfect health, and have healthy children. Of course, bad things do happen.. but I'm using the example of thousands of Jewish families that I see in real-time rather than data.
You never looked it up did you, if you are not going to be informed its up to you.
I am finished with even talking to you about this. Hundreds of thousands of women around the world, suffer after childbirth. Must data on womens health is known. All you have to do read it.
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I didn't it wasn't normal I said it causes damage to the woman each time she gives birth.
And each time the damage can't be repaired.
Look up the word prolapse
Jewish women in Israel and even here in NY prove that you can have 10-12 children and still be in perfect health, and have healthy children. Of course, bad things do happen.. but I'm using the example of thousands of Jewish families that I see in real-time rather than data.
You never looked it up did you, if you are not going to be informed its up to you.
I am finished with even talking to you about this. Hundreds of thousands of women around the world, suffer after childbirth. Must data on womens health is known. All you have to do read it.
Some women are more at risk than others.
Child birth MUST remain a personal choice.
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Child birth MUST remain a personal choice.
Really I thought they only way to be classed as a woman here was to have 10-12 and be chained to the sink :::D
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You never looked it up did you, if you are not going to be informed its up to you.
I am finished with even talking to you about this. Hundreds of thousands of women around the world, suffer after childbirth. Must data on womens health is known. All you have to do read it.
Of course I looked it up.. you said it was untreatable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_prolapse
Vaginal prolapses must be treated according to the severity of symptoms. They can be treated:
With conservative measures (changes in diet and fitness, Kegel exercises, etc.)
With a pessary, to provide support to the weakened vaginal walls
With surgery. A new minimally invasive surgical procedure is effective in restoring a woman's anatomy to the condition it was before childbirth with a recovery time of only 2 weeks. It is performed vaginally using a laparoscope and surgical mesh to repair the cystocele and rectocele and a laser to tighten the vaginal canal creating a natural support for the uterus.
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Some women are more at risk than others.
Child birth MUST remain a personal choice.
I totally agree, I just want to find a girl that wants a big family. But I also feel that all good people should have big families.. that's one way we can take over - over populate ;)
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You never looked it up did you, if you are not going to be informed its up to you.
I am finished with even talking to you about this. Hundreds of thousands of women around the world, suffer after childbirth. Must data on womens health is known. All you have to do read it.
Of course I looked it up.. you said it was untreatable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_prolapse
Vaginal prolapses must be treated according to the severity of symptoms. They can be treated:
With conservative measures (changes in diet and fitness, Kegel exercises, etc.)
With a pessary, to provide support to the weakened vaginal walls
With surgery. A new minimally invasive surgical procedure is effective in restoring a woman's anatomy to the condition it was before childbirth with a recovery time of only 2 weeks. It is performed vaginally using a laparoscope and surgical mesh to repair the cystocele and rectocele and a laser to tighten the vaginal canal creating a natural support for the uterus.
Its always there as the woman gets older it gets worse. And in the end NOTHING works.
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Some women are more at risk than others.
Child birth MUST remain a personal choice.
I totally agree, I just want to find a girl that wants a big family. But I also feel that all good people should have big families.. that's one way we can take over - over populate ;)
We can't compete with turd worlders on fertility, so it's no use trying. It's like the Chamber of Commerce saying we have to compete with turd world wages! Forget it! We can't work for 25 cents/ hour.
We need to thin out the overpopulated turd world to managable levels.
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woman should have the same political rights as men, no questions asked
No questions asked?
OK. Enjoy Liberalism.
ok well then according to you jews in america should not be allowed to vote since over 80 percent of them vote liberal
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woman should have the same political rights as men, no questions asked
No questions asked?
OK. Enjoy Liberalism.
ok well then according to you jews in america should not be allowed to vote since over 80 percent of them vote liberal
What?
That's not what I'm saying at all.
Please re-read my posts.
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Well yes maybe womens bodies do not go back to their old selves, and actually some times their bodies improve with giving birth, my mothers metabolism got much faster once she had kids.
Kelly my mom had kids up till she was 42 and my baby brother is completely healthy and great and fine and so is my mom, and my cozen had her youngest at 45 and they are both great, so you probably have nothing at all to worry about even when you are 40 :) My brothers and I are only 6 but i would love to have at least 12 :p
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I once saw a bumper sticker that said "When women vote, Democrats win!" I can't think of a better reason to NOT let women have the vote. ;) ;)
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I once saw a bumper sticker that said "When women vote, Democrats win!" I can't think of a better reason to NOT let women havr the vote. ;) ;)
None of the women in my family would ever vote for a democrat....we were brought up to have more self respect than that O0
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"When women vote, Democrats win!"
Bingo.
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Well yes maybe womens bodies do not go back to their old selves, and actually some times their bodies improve with giving birth, my mothers matablisom got much faster once she had kids.
Kelly my mom had kids up till she was 42 or 43 and my baby brother is completely healthy and great and fine and so is my mom so you probably have nothing at all to worry about even when you are 40 :) My brothers and I are only 6 but i would love to have at least 12 :p
And hopefully all 12 of them will take after their mother in everything except Spelling Skills. ;)
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Scraibin really I thought I had my monthly dose of “Ignoramus”, “Moron” and “Why do you even bother to open your mouth let alone get up in the morning” in full this month, sadly you have proved me wrong and showed me G-d had other things in store for me and my peace of mind this month.
The stupidity you spew should be against the law, and when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you. Here’s a tip, before opening that trap of yours called a mouth or writing anything that links mind to words in anyway shape or from, try to use your mind, it’s there for a reason. Do research to, that helps, it’s like cologne covers up stench, research will cover up – in most cases - stupidity.
The only not complete stupid thing you said was your first comment, shortly followed by very much stupidity, and that one should not argue with his wife, which was followed by the rest of your stupidity.
This was taken about the same time your grandmother would have been about this age if I am not mistaken so tell me how modest you think it is http://nfo.net/graphics/JungleGirls.jpg or better yet, this one was taken probably before or around the time she was born http://anndvorak.com/ChorusGirl2.jpg, or this http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/12476000/12476635.jpg? I can give you at least 100 more and even some much, MUCH more immodest, but I think I have made my point unless you are completely think.
Women are not the down fall of society, men do that just fine on their own, and they need no help from us in that. There are just as many if not MORE stupid men then there are women. Yes men and women think differently, of course they do! But you don’t seam to realize that sometimes men just simply don’t think at all, and when women do think well that is very different then what the man is doing is it not?
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
i.e. beat wife beaters, those who believe that since they married them had full rights to what ever came with it even if she didn’t feel like it or said “I have a head ache”, and men who their wives like dirt, but of course why not? They are only women after all. Which reminds me, lets all convert to Islam.
Women are more likely to use diplomacy. Men are more likely to fight.
- You are an IDIOT. Firstly everything has it’s time and place, this includes diplomacy and war, if we never used one or the other in it’s appropriate time there would be hell on earth. Actually that is not completely true, since by going my your theory then if only women were all in control then everything would be done diplomatically and there would be no wars. Or is it that you simply like to fight because it makes you feel manly?
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
- Because in general guys are PIGS. Unlike most women they do not know how to control them selves and their urges let alone their thoughts. Goes to show how weak your sex is now doesn’t it.
Women are meant for having children.
- The only reason we were and you were not is because you are too weak to handle it, and for that I wish upon you kidney stones. And as someone else I believe said, “bullet in their heads when they reach menopause” or what about women who can not have children at all? Now they should not even be able to get married, they can’t have children! Well then again I suppose they can cook and clean… that just almost makes up for it doesn’t it?
I hope your wife reads what you wrote and makes you sleep on the floor of the garage till you change you tune.
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Well yes maybe womens bodies do not go back to their old selves, and actually some times their bodies improve with giving birth, my mothers matablisom got much faster once she had kids.
Kelly my mom had kids up till she was 42 or 43 and my baby brother is completely healthy and great and fine and so is my mom so you probably have nothing at all to worry about even when you are 40 :) My brothers and I are only 6 but i would love to have at least 12 :p
And hopefully all 12 of them will take after their mother in everything except Spelling Skills. ;)
Lol yeah i forgot to correct that... lol do you realize actually what a sweet thing you said was? Well thank you, that was actually very flattering :)
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Scraibin really I thought I had my monthly dose of “Ignoramus”, “Moron” and “Why do you even bother to open your mouth let alone get up in the morning” in full this month, sadly you have proved me wrong and showed me G-d had other things in store for me and my peace of mind this month.
The stupidity you spew should be against the law, and when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you. Here’s a tip, before opening that trap of yours called a mouth or writing anything that links mind to words in anyway shape or from, try to use your mind, it’s there for a reason. Do research to, that helps, it’s like cologne covers up stench, research will cover up – in most cases - stupidity.
The only not complete stupid thing you said was your first comment, shortly followed by very much stupidity, and that one should not argue with his wife, which was followed by the rest of your stupidity.
This was taken about the same time your grandmother would have been about this age if I am not mistaken so tell me how modest you think it is http://nfo.net/graphics/JungleGirls.jpg or better yet, this one was taken probably before or around the time she was born http://anndvorak.com/ChorusGirl2.jpg, or this http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/12476000/12476635.jpg? I can give you at least 100 more and even some much, MUCH more immodest, but I think I have made my point unless you are completely think.
Women are not the down fall of society, men do that just fine on their own, and they need no help from us in that. There are just as many if not MORE stupid men then there are women. Yes men and women think differently, of course they do! But you don’t seam to realize that sometimes men just simply don’t think at all, and when women do think well that is very different then what the man is doing is it not?
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
i.e. beat wife beaters, those who believe that since they married them had full rights to what ever came with it even if she didn’t feel like it or said “I have a head ache”, and men who their wives like dirt, but of course why not? They are only women after all. Which reminds me, lets all convert to Islam.
Women are more likely to use diplomacy. Men are more likely to fight.
- You are an IDIOT. Firstly everything has it’s time and place, this includes diplomacy and war, if we never used one or the other in it’s appropriate time there would be hell on earth. Actually that is not completely true, since by going my your theory then if only women were all in control then everything would be done diplomatically and there would be no wars. Or is it that you simply like to fight because it makes you feel manly?
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
- Because in general guys are PIGS. Unlike most women they do not know how to control them selves and their urges let alone their thoughts. Goes to show how weak your sex is now doesn’t it.
Women are meant for having children.
- The only reason we were and you were not is because you are too weak to handle it, and for that I wish upon you kidney stones. And as someone else I believe said, “bullet in their heads when they reach menopause” or what about women who can not have children at all? Now they should not even be able to get married, they can’t have children! Well then again I suppose they can cook and clean… that just almost makes up for it doesn’t it?
I hope your wife reads what you wrote and makes you sleep on the floor of the garage till you change you tune.
I'm glad that I was able to teach you something.
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Scraibin really I thought I had my monthly dose of “Ignoramus”, “Moron” and “Why do you even bother to open your mouth let alone get up in the morning” in full this month, sadly you have proved me wrong and showed me G-d had other things in store for me and my peace of mind this month.
The stupidity you spew should be against the law, and when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you. Here’s a tip, before opening that trap of yours called a mouth or writing anything that links mind to words in anyway shape or from, try to use your mind, it’s there for a reason. Do research to, that helps, it’s like cologne covers up stench, research will cover up – in most cases - stupidity.
The only not complete stupid thing you said was your first comment, shortly followed by very much stupidity, and that one should not argue with his wife, which was followed by the rest of your stupidity.
This was taken about the same time your grandmother would have been about this age if I am not mistaken so tell me how modest you think it is http://nfo.net/graphics/JungleGirls.jpg or better yet, this one was taken probably before or around the time she was born http://anndvorak.com/ChorusGirl2.jpg, or this http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/12476000/12476635.jpg? I can give you at least 100 more and even some much, MUCH more immodest, but I think I have made my point unless you are completely think.
Women are not the down fall of society, men do that just fine on their own, and they need no help from us in that. There are just as many if not MORE stupid men then there are women. Yes men and women think differently, of course they do! But you don’t seam to realize that sometimes men just simply don’t think at all, and when women do think well that is very different then what the man is doing is it not?
They weren't modern, enlightened and progressive like we are. They were real men.
i.e. beat wife beaters, those who believe that since they married them had full rights to what ever came with it even if she didn’t feel like it or said “I have a head ache”, and men who their wives like dirt, but of course why not? They are only women after all. Which reminds me, lets all convert to Islam.
Women are more likely to use diplomacy. Men are more likely to fight.
- You are an IDIOT. Firstly everything has it’s time and place, this includes diplomacy and war, if we never used one or the other in it’s appropriate time there would be hell on earth. Actually that is not completely true, since by going my your theory then if only women were all in control then everything would be done diplomatically and there would be no wars. Or is it that you simply like to fight because it makes you feel manly?
If clothing choices are irrelevant, why do Orthodox Jewish Women ALL dress modestly? Coincidence?!
- Because in general guys are PIGS. Unlike most women they do not know how to control them selves and their urges let alone their thoughts. Goes to show how weak your sex is now doesn’t it.
Women are meant for having children.
- The only reason we were and you were not is because you are too weak to handle it, and for that I wish upon you kidney stones. And as someone else I believe said, “bullet in their heads when they reach menopause” or what about women who can not have children at all? Now they should not even be able to get married, they can’t have children! Well then again I suppose they can cook and clean… that just almost makes up for it doesn’t it?
I hope your wife reads what you wrote and makes you sleep on the floor of the garage till you change you tune.
MOUSE: "Scriabin really I thought I had my monthly dose of “Ignoramus”, “Moron””
SCRIABIN: Why do you give yourself monthly doses of ‘ignoramus’ and ‘moron’?
MOUSE: “The stupidity you spew should be against the law”
SCRIABIN: Against the law? Why not let everyone hear what I think and expose my ‘stupidity’?
MOUSE: “when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you.”
SCRIABIN: I asked for clarification because that statement can have two different meanings.
MOUSE: “Here’s a tip, before opening that trap of yours called a mouth or writing anything that links mind to words in anyway shape or from, try to use your mind, it’s there for a reason. Do research to, that helps, it’s like cologne covers up stench, research will cover up – in most cases - stupidity.”
SCRIABIN: Defamation is the last refuge of non-thinkers.
MOUSE: “in general guys are PIGS. Unlike most women they do not know how to control them selves and their urges let alone their thoughts. Goes to show how weak your sex is now doesn’t it.”
SCRIABIN: Now the truth comes out. When it comes to debating, you really are a mouse.
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What on earth makes you think that i was debating? If i was debating i would have pointed out all the spots where you are wrong and given you the correct answer like i do with everyone else. I was simply saying what i felt like saying nothing more nothing less. I do not waist my time debating people who are to thick to listen to logic.
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What on earth makes you think that i was debating?
I knew that you were speaking nonsence, but I didn't think that you'd admit it.
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Why does it make him an idiot to say that women use diplomacy more often than men, and that women are made for reproduction? It's the truth! Both sexes are made for reproduction, the man implants his seed and the woman bears the children. That's how things have worked for hundreds of thousands of years.
It seems like you have some real issues with men, Israeli Mouse. :-\
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It seems like you have some real issues with men, Israeli Mouse. :-\
She's a rabid feminist.
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Why does it make him an idiot to say that women use diplomacy more often than men, and that women are made for reproduction? It's the truth! Both sexes are made for reproduction, the man implants his seed and the woman bears the children. That's how things have worked for hundreds of thousands of years.
It seems like you have some real issues with men, Israeli Mouse. :-\
There is something from the Gemara that says;
Women were created from the rib of man,
not from his head to top him,
not from his feet to be stepped upon,
but from his side to be equal to him,
but from beneath his arm to be protected by him
and from near his heart to be loved by him
In Judaism women are considered special and sacred. I have nothing against men in general, i believe that men are here for a reason and made the way they are for a reason just as women are, they are two parts of a whole and need each other to fulfilled each other and nether one should be dominant over the other. A man is a man and a woman is a woman and nether one should try to be the other, and nether should try to top the other.
I am not a feminist as you can clearly see from the above. I do not want to be a man, and I have nothing against men in the general. What i do not like how ever is when a man tries to dominate women and knowingly or subconsciously does and/or says so. By saying that women should not vote, and saying in so many words that women are not as good as men and will be the down fall to society - which btw if you read the Tanach you will see it is the exact opposite - you are saying just that.
Women are made of child birth yes, but many men seem to think that means that they are weak, or that because of that they are lower, and if anything it is to the contrary it makes them grater for it, not worse or weaker. If you read between the lines he is clearly implying this whether he mean to or not. And yes women do tend to use diplomacy more often than men but what makes that a bad thing? Is it not better to try to work things out diplomatically first and when that does not work do what ever needs to be done?
I agree that real true feminism which has women trying to become men is a downfall to society, but that does not mean that women should not have the right to vote for their leaders like everyone else. This site unless i am mistaken is mostly men, and in this posting alone there are only 3 women including myself. Someone has to say something, and many men here tried to, or even did, but as a women I said what i had to say not in a debate form, because i am not debating this, he is wrong and that is that.
I knew that you were speaking nonsense, but I didn't think that you'd admit it.
I said that i was not debating. What i said was not a debate by rather a statement, I do not see how this was unclear to you, but as you clearly said, you didn't think.
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If I may, let me clarify a few things:
First of all, Israeli Mouse - you were a little off in just one place:
Women are meant for having children.
- The only reason we were and you were not is because you are too weak to handle it
Originally, childbearing would have been painless, but Chava's punishment for the Tree of Knowledge incident was that from then on, childbearing would be extremely painful.
MOUSE: “when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you.”
SCRIABIN: I asked for clarification because that statement can have two different meanings.
When I said that I was not referring to you, but to my idea that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.
I am against Feminism 100%, but the difference between you and I, Scriabin, is that I am not against women, or their right to vote in a Democracy (which there should not be in Israel). You tend to come across as an eloquent Adam613 when it comes to this subject.
With that said, Israeli Mouse is not a Feminist, and she is certainly not rabid. ;)
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If I may, let me clarify a few things:
First of all, Israeli Mouse - you were a little off in just one place:
Women are meant for having children.
- The only reason we were and you were not is because you are too weak to handle it
Originally, childbearing would have been painless, but Chava's punishment for the Tree of Knowledge incident was that from then on, childbearing would be extremely painful.
MOUSE: “when OdKahaneChai said “I personally only don't believe in Idiot's Suffrage...” the reason you did not understand it and needed to be explained to is because it applies full force to you.”
SCRIABIN: I asked for clarification because that statement can have two different meanings.
When I said that I was not referring to you, but to my idea that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.
I am against Feminism 100%, but the difference between you and I, Scriabin, is that I am not against women, or their right to vote in a Democracy (which there should not be in Israel). You tend to come across as an eloquent Adam613 when it comes to this subject.
With that said, Israeli Mouse is not a Feminist, and she is certainly not rabid. ;)
lol OdKahaneChai - wow its weird calling you that - i know you didn't mean him but it does apply to him, at least as far as i am considered. I was going to say the same thing before i read that you did :-p
You know from the past that other then miner things i basically know the Chumash pretty ok, so i already knew why and in fact thought of something that someone can say and have yet to :-p but i am very happy to see you caught this one :) O0 it's rare that people do :P
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:::D I like you Israeli Mouse, tho I admit half the things you say I don't believe in.
But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
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But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
Quit picking fights, it isn't good for the cause.
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:::D I like you Israeli Mouse, tho I admit half the things you say I don't believe in.
But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
lol
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:::D I like you Israeli Mouse, tho I admit half the things you say I don't believe in.
But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
lol
Just in case you needed to prove to me you weren't an imposter...
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But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
Quit picking fights, it isn't good for the cause.
I was not picking a fight :::D
I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Its not about you, its about her 8;)
Talk about Attention seeking behavour :::D
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:::D I like you Israeli Mouse, tho I admit half the things you say I don't believe in.
But since you gave Scriabin a little run I think thats great. ^-^
lol
Just in case you needed to prove to me you weren't an imposter...
lol! you can always tell its me :-p
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
How exactly is she whining?
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A female Doctor saved my life once. I'm glad that WOMAN was able to become a doctor, work and start a practice. Dr Helen _______ as Mrs So-n-so in a kitchen doing nothing but wipe the snot from kids' noses or washing her husband's socks would be a waste of talent and humanity.
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
She was not whining, she was putting her point across.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
How exactly is she whining?
I'm speaking of the Mouse, not the Infidel.
Did you not read the long post that she wrote? It was full of name-calling and insults but had little substance.
That's what I was talking about.
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
How exactly is she whining?
I'm speaking of the Mouse, not the Infidel.
Did you not read the long post that she wrote? It was full of name-calling and insults but had little substance.
That's what I was talking about.
Learn the definition of whining. It is not being a Bit**, it is complaining in a self pitting and almost naggy form.
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
How exactly is she whining?
I'm speaking of the Mouse, not the Infidel.
Did you not read the long post that she wrote? It was full of name-calling and insults but had little substance.
That's what I was talking about.
I know who you were talking about. But if you want to say "name-calling and insults," say "name-calling and insults." That and whining are completely different things.
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I was pointing out to IM that I liked her because she strong :)
Strong = whining?
How exactly is she whining?
I'm speaking of the Mouse, not the Infidel.
Did you not read the long post that she wrote? It was full of name-calling and insults but had little substance.
That's what I was talking about.
I know who you were talking about. But if you want to say "name-calling and insults," say "name-calling and insults." That and whining are completely different things.
I see. Its ok for her to call me any name in the book, but when it comes to me saying one little word, you suddenly feel the need to nitpick my semantics.
Thanks a lot, OKC. >:(
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You've got serious self confidence issues... I bet that your Mother figure that raised you was controlling or something to make you so resentful and want to be domineering towards women. A word of advice go see a psychologist.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Lol depends on the woman I suppose, usually that goes for women that have some sort of self confidence issue or psychological reason for it... though of course there are always the exception, and when it depends on the circumstances. Though I doubt most women would want to be dominated all or most of the time.
Unless you have your occasional woman that needs (psychologically needs, not someone else decides she does like you would have in Islam) to be dominated, or your occasional feminist that wants to be dominant, I think most women want be equal. Sometimes the guy can me a little more dominant in something, and sometimes the woman can be, but in the end of the day they are equals.
I can not speak for all women, or even most... but from being one, and speaking to many I think thats what most women want.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Right but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
lol i didn't think you were.
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Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
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Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
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It was a general statement that could easy fit some ::)
For you vito I know that its not you, you will be a good husband and father one day. You attitude you show, proves this. ;)
I have no doubts about you as a man at all. O0
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
lol i didn't think you were.
No way, Vito is a sweetheart :)
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
See - if you knew how to spell Veto, none of that would have happened...
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
See - if you knew how to spell Veto, none of that would have happened...
I knew you to say that :-p
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
See - if you knew how to spell Veto, none of that would have happened...
I knew you to say that :-p
When is your Yom Huledet? I'm buying you a dictionary, B"N.
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I've got already, doesnt help lol
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I've got already, doesnt help lol
I don't care, you need another one!
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This is "Sexy?"
Always wondered about them covering their women, but exposing their camels. :laugh: :P :D
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z285/prezza2/burka.jpg)
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This is "Sexy?"
Always wondered about them covering their women, but exposing their camels. :laugh: :P :D
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z285/prezza2/burka.jpg)
No they look like black blobs, not even human, they have no identity
Maybe the camels ARE better looking ^-^
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Its dangerous for them to drive like that.
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They don't drive its only men that do.
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(http://www.kgov.com/gallery/20010911/TalibanDatingService.jpg)
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(http://www.kgov.com/gallery/20010911/TalibanDatingService.jpg)
:::D :::D cave or tent
I wonder how many muslim men, frothing at the mouth with these scandalous pics, actually tried to join this site :D
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(http://www.kgov.com/gallery/20010911/TalibanDatingService.jpg)
:::D :::D :::D
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lol They all be complaining that they couldn't :::D
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http://www.muslima.com/default.cfm
That a link to a dating site for getting a muslim husband or wife. Note how many women are uncovered ::) ;D
UNCOVERED MEAT!
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http://www.muslima.com/default.cfm
That a link to a dating site for getting a muslim husband or wife. Note how many women are uncovered ::) ;D
UNCOVERED MEAT!
Oh my...looking at some of those photos...i can understand the concept of the burka :o
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I take it you only looked at the guys :::D
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I take it you only looked at the guys :::D
Both....and may i say "burkas all around"....i really wish there was a yucky face, this really calls for it :o
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I've got already, doesnt help lol
I don't care, you need another one!
I remember once before a test which had an essay which was a big part of my grade my mom made me sit down everyday memorizing how to spell like at least 50 words a day - not including the ones from the day before O_o - and i couldn't do anything till i was done and got every last one of them right. It REALLY sucked!
It's odd because I have a pretty good memory b''h but for some reason this stuff just does not click, one of my uncles are the same way... Idk doctors have theories on it, but trust me another dictionary is not going to help lol thanks anyways lol
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http://www.muslima.com/default.cfm
That a link to a dating site for getting a muslim husband or wife. Note how many women are uncovered ::) ;D
UNCOVERED MEAT!
Note in one of the photos you see a guy with a girl standing behind him...
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http://www.muslima.com/default.cfm
That a link to a dating site for getting a muslim husband or wife. Note how many women are uncovered ::) ;D
UNCOVERED MEAT!
Note in one of the photos you see a guy with a girl standing behind him...
Oh come on IM you stand behind men all the time now don't you :::D
I only make a habit of that when the pooh is going to hit the fan ^-^
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http://www.muslima.com/default.cfm
That a link to a dating site for getting a muslim husband or wife. Note how many women are uncovered ::) ;D
UNCOVERED MEAT!
Note in one of the photos you see a guy with a girl standing behind him...
Oh come on IM you stand behind men all the time now don't you :::D
I only make a habit of that when the pooh is going to hit the fan ^-^
Lol yes, but my point was that in Islam women are supposed to stand a certain amount of feet behind the man. This was saying something... look at it was posed.
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Yes i know, also she in not looking down to the ground ^-^ She is such a flirt :::D :P
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That notty girl :::D
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
Hah, as can all women. There goes the male dominance in me.. no more Mr. Nice Guy *Mwahahaha*
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For you vito I know that its not you, you will be a good husband and father one day. You attitude you show, proves this. ;)
I have no doubts about you as a man at all. O0
No way, Vito is a sweetheart :)
Thanks ladies ^-^
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If I were a woman, I wouldn't want to be Scriabin's wife ;D .. but I'd be his neighbor O0
Lol i am a woman and let me tell you thats still to close for my taste :P
Oh give him a break :D I thought women like a dominant male anyway, no?
Women like men not boys vito big difference, and dominant does not and never means abusive.
Come on Infidel, you know I don't mean abusive.
Right - though i dont understand how vito fits in there - but not domineering all the time or in every way... you don't want a guy who will tell you how to do everything and boss you around like you are his belonging or something and have no will of your own.
I'm not abusive, and would want my wife to be my equal.. no more no less.
Lol sorry Vito, when she said Vito i thought she meant like she was vitoing something... I forgot thats your name... lol sorry i can be a real ditz sometimes :P
Hah, as can all women. There goes the male dominance in me.. no more Mr. Nice Guy *Mwahahaha*
Lol guys can be as much a ditz as any girl can if not more! :P And that would be a chauvinist not domineering :-p
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For you vito I know that its not you, you will be a good husband and father one day. You attitude you show, proves this. ;)
I have no doubts about you as a man at all. O0
No way, Vito is a sweetheart :)
Thanks ladies ^-^
Lol there you go, now you see you've all have gone and done! you boosted his ego! what a dangerous thing to do for a guy then they will think they are kings of the world :-p jp you seem like a really nice guy :)
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For you vito I know that its not you, you will be a good husband and father one day. You attitude you show, proves this. ;)
I have no doubts about you as a man at all. O0
No way, Vito is a sweetheart :)
Thanks ladies ^-^
No worries O0
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I'm pleased to say that I've come a long way as a progressive male.
I've learned to resect women for their minds, not just their looks. I've learned to listen to women and show genuine concern. I've learned to be more worldly and polite. I've been able to get in touch with my feminine side so I ca better relate to women.
Hell, anything to get the silly wenches into bed. ;)
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I'm pleased to say that I've come a long way as a progressive male.
I've learned to resect women for their minds, not just their looks. I've learned to listen to women and show genuine concern. I've learned to be more worldly and polite. I've been able to get in touch with my feminine side so I ca better relate to women.
Hell, anything to get the silly wenches into bed. ;)
Oh yeah that last line was soooooo smooth ::)
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I'm pleased to say that I've come a long way as a progressive male.
I've learned to resect women for their minds, not just their looks. I've learned to listen to women and show genuine concern. I've learned to be more worldly and polite. I've been able to get in touch with my feminine side so I ca better relate to women.
Hell, anything to get the silly wenches into bed. ;)
How romantic, you should be proud :::D
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My opinion is that there is nothing wrong with a woman wearing revealing clothes.
Also hygene is a very high standard especially these days and thats very great thing.
Theres many cultures that are open about sexuality and have no probelem with it and has been a beautiful thing.
Also in many parts of europe the drinking age is any age and in those countries they have the least amount of probelems
The big serious probelems occur in countries that try to restrict alcohol/sexuality for example like america with its movie ratings and all kinds of restrictions and pointless controlling laws have the most amount of probelems.
I am Greek Orthodox and do you know how mad that would make me if they started to card people saying you have to be 21 and up to consume the body and blood of christ because it contains wine, or if they arrested the priest for giving comunion because hes providing alcohol to minors?!?!
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My opinion is that there is nothing wrong with a woman wearing revealing clothes.
Also hygene is a very high standard especially these days and thats very great thing.
Theres many cultures that are open about sexuality and have no probelem with it and has been a beautiful thing.
Also in many parts of europe the drinking age is any age and in those countries they have the least amount of probelems
The big serious probelems occur in countries that try to restrict alcohol/sexuality for example like america with its movie ratings and all kinds of restrictions and pointless controlling laws have the most amount of probelems.
I am Greek Orthodox and do you know how mad that would make me if they started to card people saying you have to be 21 and up to consume the body and blood of christ because it contains wine, or if they arrested the priest for giving comunion because hes providing alcohol to minors?!?!
Well you are allowed to have for like religious reasons, like on pass over i have at least 4 cups (yay pesach :P jk) so in church you would still be able to have the blood of jesus? that sounds a little bit cannibalistic to me, but to each their own and no offense of course... it was just an observation i made... so anyway back to what i sorry was saying (sorry ADD :P) so you would have no problem with that :)
From history we see that when any people or country become extremely lacking in moral they fall. Look at the Romans, Greeks, Babylonians and so on and so forth. Yes there are some African tribes that have women walking around topless and they are still around but they also probably are not as immoral as the empires were... I have more to say on this topic and actually think I'll write something up - though i doubt i would post here - about it but thats for another time.